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Should Kashmir get a chance to decide their future through Referendum?

Should Kashmir get a chance to decide their future through Referendum?


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on a side : yaar my elders in Calcutta before partition used to say : had we not harassed our mai baap's
(the British) so much, starting from Chandra Bose to Mahatma Gandhi
who knows maybe, think about it, may be they might have chosen us as their successor
Sirjee, you are bang on target. If we do not understand geopolitics of late nineteenth century and great game, understanding the history of the subcontinent would always be incomplete. Russian expansionism right from the age of Tsar Paul to Lenin towards south east and British movement towards North West came to a stalemate in Afghanistan. During Second World War, when the British realized that they have to leave the political seat in the Indian subcontinent completely, they were already getting ready for the next clash, the great game. And guess what, Gandhiji was lecturing Linlithgow about non violence means to resist the Nazis. Nehru became a hard core socialist and preaching communism right from the 30's which grew the suspicion about Indians more in the British political circle that India might fall in the Soviet hands after the war.So securing the main artery to Central Asia became their primary challenge.
This is my personal opinion that, Bose's formation of INA had the least effect on the British policy those days. The fate of the region was already decided before he escaped to Germany.
So India agrees that a referendum must be held in Kashmir?
Absolutely. India's position through out the conflict has been consistent. India's official stand is whenever there was a conflict between the ruler and the people on the issue of accession, people's mandate will have the final words. India supported Sheikh Abdullah who was a leader unchallenged in Kashmir but not recognized by Pakistan before partition. And India unilaterally announced that people of Kashmir will decide their own fate once peace, law and order get restored.
 
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I am not saying that, GB is bordered by leh & laddak & that place has a very heavy military presence of India , I mean ARMY ,Air force you name it, it is too risky to keep GB @ their mercy, the Indians don't care about AJK but BB is like the million dollar babe for them ! its strategic importance to the Indians are of immence important just to let you know, any settlement of Kashmir cannot be achieved with out the Indian getting full access of trades & goods, pipelines from GB in another word full transit corridor a movement of such level which will literally make their transit from BD to their God forsaken north east from BD, look like a chaat shop in front of a 5 star hotel & I am not kidding ! GB is the wild card here

Nobody is giving GB to India. Neither leaving it on the mercy of India. Just saying that we ready to hold plebiscite even in AJK and GB if India agrees to do the same in its occupied part. We know we won't lose in any such plebiscite so nothing to worry for us unlike. I just don't want to give any excuse to run away from the plebiscite to these land grabbers.
 
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Nobody is giving GB to India. Neither leaving it on the mercy of India. Just saying that we ready to hold plebiscite even in AJK and GB if India agrees to do the same in its occupied part. We know we won't lose in any such plebiscite so nothing to worry for us unlike. I just don't want to give any excuse to run away from the plebiscite to these land grabbers.

Funny considering the fact that Pakistan has chickened out from fulfilling the per-requisite of referendum untill now .
 
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Pre-requisites don't matter now. Want to hold a plebiscite? We are ready for it.

Says who ??

Fulfill the per-requisites first and then we can think about plebiscite .
 
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We have already fulfilled the pre-requisite by agreeing to a plebiscite.

No .... you have not .

According to UN , there are multiple conditions that Pakistan have to fulfill before a referendum can be conducted .

But untill today Pakistan have shied away from fulfilling a single one of them ..... one has to wonder why .
 
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Pakistanis need to push for referendum in their Kashmir first and than talk about Indian Kashmir.

How fair are we to our Kashmiris? Apart from police brutality, do we offer our Kashmiris what India can offer?
 
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No .... you have not .

According to UN , there are multiple conditions that Pakistan have to fulfill before a referendum can be conducted .

But untill today Pakistan have shied away from fulfilling a single one of them ..... one has to wonder why .

Yes we have. We offer to conduct a plebiscite. It is you who first promised and then ran away from it citing lame and bogus excuses like you are giving one now.
 
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Yes we have. We offer to conduct a plebiscite. It is you who first promised and then ran away from it citing lame and bogus excuses like you are giving one now.

the pre requsite is to handover Azad Kashmir, GB to india first. after that India will see whether to conduct a plebiscite or not
 
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the pre requsite is to handover Azad Kashmir, GB to india first. after that India will see whether to conduct a plebiscite or not
On a more practical sense, neither is going to happen. Enough water has flown through Indus and Ganges (National Conference lost its credibility and support that it enjoyed back then). The more India becomes stronger economically and learns e-diplomacy from its eastern neighbor, the K-issue will die down naturally.
 
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Yes we have. We offer to conduct a plebiscite. It is you who first promised and then ran away from it citing lame and bogus excuses like you are giving one now.

If you live on high moral grounds then who stopped you for referendum for P o K?

Empty vessels make more noise just like Pakistan so just stop complaining all the time and prove your self by giving people of P o K option for their future.
 
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As i said earlier,we are wasting our time.Both Pakistan and india will accept LOC as International border in the near future,This is something inevitable
 
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