Should China accept NATO's invitation to join them in Afghanistan?

[Sino-PakFriendship]

We would greatly love to see China contribute in Afghanistan for undermentioned reasons:

1. It bolsters the efforts of WoT in terms of more on board contributing actively to establish peace in this highly volatile area.

2. It allows a country perceived as Pakistan friendly to be in a position to reassure Pakistan of its security interests as also encourage Pakistan to take further steps to cut off safe havens in its territory.

3. It shall force China to send a strong message that terror in garb of jihad has no place (as an extension further ensure their security in Xinjiang province)

4. And purely militarist PoV from indian side, tie down Chinese troops in a quagmire which has no potential of being resolved in near duration. Any nation entering the region will have to prepare for a long haul and any intervention by China there will only fuel unrest in its own western region.

Points 3 and 4 above are contrary to each other and its a dilemma facing Chinese Politicians in real terms.

I repeat that

China will not fall to US trap on Afghanistan!


Xinjiang? Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are not the level of China!

Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are rogue,

CCP are super-rogue,

If Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden fight with China, the result is obvious. Super-rogue will overwhelmingly defeat rogue.

Western have many limitation to confront terrorists due to Human issues, but China don't care this.

None of China,Russia, Iran and Pakistan wants to see NATO / USA's existance in Afghanistan.

 

[Vassnti]

A normal font would have been sufficient.

Hellfire i thought had some valid points a stable prosperous Afghanistan would be good for China.

If China wants the US to reduce its presence in Afghanistan then would not providing Chinese troops to help in stabilisation and rebuilding serve the goal by allowing the US to reduce its troop numbers?

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

A normal font would have been sufficient.

Hellfire i thought had some valid points a stable prosperous Afghanistan would be good for China.

If China wants the US to reduce its presence in Afghanistan then would not providing Chinese troops to help in stabilisation and rebuilding serve the goal by allowing the US to reduce its troop numbers?

USA is Taliban's Ally before 911.

Taliban has only 3 major opponents before : Russia, India and Iran

Without 911, all agents from these 3 states would plan to extinguish Taliban!

So, don't need White American Hypocrisy!

 

[hero]

I repeat that

China will not fall to US trap on Afghanistan!


Xinjiang? Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are not the level of China!

Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are rogue,

CCP are super-rogue,

If Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden fight with China, the result is obvious. Super-rogue will overwhelmingly defeat rogue.

Western have many limitation to confront terrorists due to Human issues, but China don't care this.

None of China,Russia, Iran and Pakistan wants to see NATO / USA's existance in Afghanistan.

I agree with you.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

India is an ally of USA

so India have obligation to help USA.

Not China!

 

[applesauce]

china will not go in unless under the banner of the UN even then it will be peace keeper only no true military force

 

[topjumper]

Hell no! NATO is trying to drop this hot potato on the chinese laps long after they realized they can never win. We are not a world police and we need to focus on developing our own economy instead of packing body bags.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

no hell no, china isnt mad like usa.And it was usa stupid decision to invade afghanistan not chinas.

 

[Hafizzz]

Since the beginning of the last year the Obama administration has been quietly encouraging Beijing to become engaged in Afghanistan by sending military police to train Afghan soldiers.

During Obama's visit to China, both Hu Jintao and Obama discussed issues related to Afghanistan. Obama clearly told that his administration wants China to get involved in Afghanistan.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on several occasions told China should send PLA troops to Afghanistan. But China has strongly refused all these proposals by NATO alliances. China said apart from the UN peace keeping operations approved by the UNSC, China never sends her PLA troops abroad.

NATO knows without assistance from PLA troops, they cannot succeed in their military deigns in Afghanistan. However, China opposes the NATO's ****** policy and says China cannot support any military operations by NATO in Pakistan, China's closest friend.


Here is a video link of the debate on CCTV 9.

Click below to see:

Dialogue 10/01/13 Obama presses China on Afghanistan CCTV-International

You are requested to first watch the 28 minutes program, listen to the debate carefully and then post your opinions. I will also post my opinions. Thank.

Let the West clean up their own mess.

 

[DesiGuy]

YES. For sure.

 

[somebozo]

China does not need to join NATO..it has its own resources to engage in civilian missions. However CHina should be welcome to NATO as an observer leading to full member state.

 

[Hafizzz]

YES. For sure.

I think India should take over US's role in Afghanistan since India is an ally of the USA and USA gave so much to India (Arms and Nuclear deal).

Yes they should. The civilian goodwill earned will be enormus and curb indian influence in Afghanistan. And its about time China should join NATO as well.

Indian influence in AFghanistan ? LOL.

India will get her a@@ kicked out of Afghanistan by the Taliban in no time.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

I think India should take over US's role in Afghanistan since India is an ally of the USA and USA gave so much to India (Arms and Nuclear deal).

Thanks for the consideration mate...but India is happy to see pakistan working for US..keep the work going...inshallah fateh paoge !

Indian influence in AFghanistan ? LOL.

India will get her a@@ kicked out of Afghanistan by the Taliban in no time.

 

[mDumb]

No, China should decline the invitation. Only go to Afghanistan if it's security in Xinjiang is compromised by the Taliban.

Pakistan has a better chance since the ISI knows the Taliban well. The question is is it in Pakistan's interest to completely wipe out the Taliban?

Another option is to use the Tajiks against the Pashtuns. These two are the largest groups in Afghanistan and they are rivals.

How many troops are required to pacify Afghanistan?

The Soviet Union had 120,000 troops in the country for most of its decade-long occupation, from 1979 to 1989. In the end, it lost. After-action assessments conducted in the Soviet Union and United States of the Soviet failure concluded that about 500,000 troops would have been needed to "pacify" Afghanistan. And even if the Red Army could have mustered some of the extra troops, the country's terrain would have blocked their deployment; a labyrinth of roadless mountains and twisting valleys denied the Soviet Union the capacity to effectively supply a force larger than about 120,000 soldiers. Two decades later, these realities have not changed much for the current U.S.-led effort.

In June 2008, General Dan McNeill, the former commander of the International Security Assistance Force, told Der Spiegel that it would take 400,000 troops to mollify Afghanistan. Although McNeill's assertion was challenged at the time by some in the Bush administration, the Pentagon today would probably put the number of troops needed to bring calm to the country -- the military solution -- even higher: at approximately half a million. These numbers are simply beyond contemplation for the United States and NATO.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Since the beginning of the last year the Obama administration has been quietly encouraging Beijing to become engaged in Afghanistan by sending military police to train Afghan soldiers.

I think Obama has good intentions here, he wants to see Americans and Chinese working together so as to improve relations.

Like Obama said... "the relationship between USA and China will shape the 21st century".

However I think China will not send troops to Afghanistan... look at the history of Afghanistan to see why we think this is a bad idea.