Shop owner held for putting up ‘hate notice’

[ArsalanKhan21]

These Qadiani Kazzabs are instigating and then complaining. They should stop using Muslim symbols.

 

[Pakistani till death]

These Qadiani Kazzabs are instigating and then complaining. They should stop using Muslim symbols.

Jews and christians can say the same thing about us using the name of the Prophets. Its their faith they can use any symbol they like its a matter between Allah and them not us!

 

[Mrc]

Well drop scene

The mard-e-momins of Hafeez Center demonstrated in their hundreds to demand his release and they got their wish

You can fight a fanatical group but not a fanatical society

He was bailed by court...

What do u want him to be shot in head? He was not booked for murder

 

[Sunan]

I hope and pray that this man get the taste of Punjab Police famous "Chitrol".

 

[krash]

Cults are not faith like religion is

Islam is a religion. Anything else is a cult, like Ahmedis and others who have distorted it to Matams

If only the burden of determining what is religion and what is not was a responsibility given unto your shoulders. Your statement even goes against the religion that you profess to supposedly defend, but we all know it's just your own vain, fickle sensitivities that you try to guard.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Jews and christians can say the same thing about us using the name of the Prophets. Its their faith they can use any symbol they like its a matter between Allah and them not us!

Muslim are not hijacking Judaism and Christianity. Muslim pray differently, have their own religious book and theology. While the Qadiani Kazzabs are fraudlently using Muslim symbols calling Muslims as "non-Ahmadi Muslims" and "Sarkari Muslims" and themselves as "Ahmadi Muslims". I don't see Muslims calling themselves as "Muslim Jews" or "Muslim Christans". These Qadianis are Kazzabs !

 

[Musafir117]

These Qadiani Kazzabs are instigating and then complaining. They should stop using Muslim symbols.

Burn caveman burn they not gonna stop coz it's not property of any dad. What you do? Blast yourself somewhere like your zombie army.

 

[Winchester]

He was bailed by court...

What do u want him to be shot in head? He was not booked for murder

You don't even want to hear criticism of their actions?

 

[nForce]

What the shop owner did sounds wrong to many including me. But, can the law stop him or force him, if he chooses not to allow people from certain community inside his shop because of his notions ? Can the state impose it's views upon him ?

 

[JamD]

What the shop owner did sounds wrong to many including me. But, can the law stop him or force him, if he chooses not to allow people from certain community inside his shop because of his notions ? Can the state impose it's views upon him ?

The same argument was used to stop African Americans from entering establishments as well. The same argument was used to stop Jews under Hitler. And yes it is in interesting point to raise because its hard to define where one person's rights end and the others' begin. BUT looking at history most cultures have decided that for commercial spaces you can not prohibit entry based upon race, religion etc.

 

[nForce]

The same argument was used to stop African Americans from entering establishments as well. The same argument was used to stop Jews under Hitler. And yes it is in interesting point to raise because its hard to define where one person's rights end and the others' begin. BUT looking at history most cultures have decided that for commercial spaces you can not prohibit entry based upon race, religion etc.

Of course it is wrong, vehemently wrong. It shows the narrow-mindedness of the shop owner.

The point I'm raising is, will it be a solution to punish the shop-owner or just a stop-gap measure. I don't know whether you are aware of it or not, a similar issue caught media attention in India, where famous filmstar and media personality Shabana Azmi was denied an apartment because she was a Muslim. The argument at that time too, was, the owner is well within his rights, not to allow certain group of people within his premises. That's personal space.

Both equally wrong. The problem, in my opinion is not just within the individual to be specific, but certain sections of the society. That's what one needs to solve.

 

[JamD]

Of course it is wrong, vehemently wrong. It shows the narrow-mindedness of the shop owner.

The point I'm raising is, will it be a solution to punish the shop-owner or just a stop-gap measure. I don't know whether you are aware of it or not, a similar issue caught media attention in India, where famous filmstar and media personality Shabana Azmi was denied an apartment because she was a Muslim. The argument at that time too, was, the owner is well within his rights, not to allow certain group of people within his premises. That's personal space.

Both equally wrong. The problem, in my opinion is not just within the individual to be specific, but certain sections of the society. That's what one needs to solve.

Yes I understand it is very wrong. I wasn't taking a moral position merely indulging you in the logical debate of it

Yes simply putting the guy in prison clearly didn't help. He got out on bail, was welcomed as a hero and the entire market united in their bigotry. I think it'll decades of people raising their voice and many horrible things happening along the way for any people to change their mindsets. Small changes in the positive direction are happening which makes me hopeful. There are more people today than there were a few years ago who would've had the courage to say "No! This is WRONG!". When there are enough people like that (I hope someday there are) the ignorant will become the fringe and putting them in prison would be just the right thing to do.

 

[Suff Shikan]

The accused has been released on bale. If there is a banner or sticker mentioning truth and legit view is not a crime. Qadianis Ahmadis are non-muslim and its illegal to have any connection with them.

 

[nForce]

Yes I understand it is very wrong. I wasn't taking a moral position merely indulging you in the logical debate of it

Yes simply putting the guy in prison clearly didn't help. He got out on bail, was welcomed as a hero and the entire market united in their bigotry. I think it'll decades of people raising their voice and many horrible things happening along the way for any people to change their mindsets. Small changes in the positive direction are happening which makes me hopeful. There are more people today than there were a few years ago who would've had the courage to say "No! This is WRONG!". When there are enough people like that (I hope someday there are) the ignorant will become the fringe and putting them in prison would be just the right thing to do.

May God be with you.

 

[Ehsan]

my problem with u is that rabwa times. Its a foreign funded source with bad objectives.
If u really r sincere with Pakistan or yr community then come here n work here for them n us Pakistan has changed buddy, its not the same anymore. But by quoting such sources yr making life difficult for all those who r sympathetic to yr community people like myself.

Thats the best advice i can give u. Rest is upto u.

Yes anything that is critical of Pakistani policy is foreign funded, you are forgetting Ahmadis helped make Pakistan, you people like you are just bad tenants who are runing our land and Inshallah we will claim it back from the likes of you and make it GREAT AGAIN ! we got it and made it great before and we will do so again. INSHALLAH
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله