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mastan khan what about PAF in arab-isreal's wars you should read those stories, and then plz tell me you praise PAF now or not..
Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info
Hi,
Quite a few of the iraqi pilots in the first GW didnot fly any evasive maneavouers because their obsolete radars could not tell them where the enemy aircraft was or if there was a phoenix missile coming at them----they possibly died NOT KNOWING when they died.
The russians were not lost----they carried out ground strike missions in pakistan all the times---sometimes they got caught.
Now as for the shooting of the SU 25---there was no reason for the PAF to brag about it---it was like your Ferrari beat the sh-it out the opponents Hyundai at the Lemans---and you are jumping up and down with joy---that was rather cheap and still is.
When the paks take out the mig 29 and the m2ks on their own---then I will bow my head down in praise---other than that it was just a turkey shoot.
Dear , a Hyundai behind a Ferrari wont overtake it or cripple, but a fighter jet behind another one can despatch it.... so real pride needs to be felt whether we shoot a UAV or a MKI....
Atlantique was shot when it was in its own territory, u know dat...
Hi,
I don't want to sell my guys short---they take down the mig 29 / m2k with cannons---that is a feat---but an su 25---which didnot even have a radar powerful enough to know that you were there coming---.
Where is the pride and dignity of a fighter ace in shooting someone who is blind. I don't see it anywhere.
Well in that sense there are many pilots in US who just launched missiles at BVR range and shot down Iraqis and the Iraqis could not even locate F15's on their radar by the time missile hit the iraqis but the pilots are still very well praised in the USAF Community.I am pretty you won't say the same thing if IAF shots down some Pakistani jet in BVR range or if SU30 shots down Pakistani F7. Canon kill in itself is a very good thing.Shooting down adversary via canon is no easy job.Su 25 could get out of the range easily.I am sure PAF was eventually prepared for even Mig29's at that time as Soviets could have created by giving Mig29 escorts to Su22.Israelis shot down several Arab mig21's by using F15's and F15's were F22 of that time but they're still praised for it.The fact of matter is the members mostly indians are trying to descredit these kills just because it's Pakistanis where as if Israelis do something like this they would be all praise saying Israeli know how to protect itself etc.Besides shooting down Soviet Jet is another totally different thing.You gotta have the balls to shot down a super power jet which is located just across the border.Yeah, a kill is a kill. Sure.
It's just that the sense of accomplishment in defeating an adversary that has the capacity to fight back, and KNOWS that you are there before you bash his head in, is completely different.
Anybody get the difference?
Yeah, a kill is a kill. Sure.
It's just that the sense of accomplishment in defeating an adversary that has the capacity to fight back, and KNOWS that you are there before you bash his head in, is completely different.
Anybody get the difference?