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Shooting down of Indian MiGs In Kargil

So it was involved in airspace violation....although pretty thin about the smoke ingestion.

Isn't it Pakistan's stance all along that LoC isn't the border and violations there don't count in severity as compared to violations on the IB?

And smoke ingestion is indeed a concern. Ground attack planes operate at relatively lower altitudes during bombing/strafing runs, but the Mig 27 was forced to do them at much higher altitudes and rarified atmosphere than they would have liked.
 
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Guys chest thumping thieves like Indians would never believe..for them there media is the most honest and professional.yes the chest thumping Indian thieves can shot down an unarmed aircraft, looks like Indian meaty balls have turned into veggie balls now.
 
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Guys chest thumping thieves like Indians would never believe..for them there media is the most honest and professional.yes the chest thumping Indian thieves can shot down an unarmed aircraft, looks like Indian meaty balls have turned into veggie balls now.

Breast beating Pakistanies doesn't know there is something called Neutral source. Only source we dismisses are Pakistani source or articles written by Pakistani guys . Meanwhile did your OP gave any source whatsoever ??

The Pakistani plane was a military plane in our air-space and was shot down after repeated warnings .

And so much you guys have to show for being superior race that you are crying for Kashmir since more than half of century.
 
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Isn't it Pakistan's stance all along that LoC isn't the border and violations there don't count in severity as compared to violations on the IB?

And smoke ingestion is indeed a concern. Ground attack planes operate at relatively lower altitudes during bombing/strafing runs, but the Mig 27 was forced to do them at much higher altitudes and rarified atmosphere than they would have liked.
Dont bother explaining, your are wasting time.
 
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well the debate will go on. Same arguments.Really no point.
 
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Breast beating Pakistanies doesn't know there is something called Neutral source. Only source we dismisses are Pakistani source or articles written by Pakistani guys . Meanwhile did your OP gave any source whatsoever ??

The Pakistani plane was a military plane in our air-space and was shot down after repeated warnings .

And so much you guys have to show for being superior race that you are crying for Kashmir since more than half of century.
Yes we have already got half the Kashmir...rest is taking little bit more time than usual..do you have any doubt that.

What repeated warnings to an unarmed aircraft you are talking about..which you did after firing the missile.
 
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So it was involved in airspace violation....although pretty thin about the smoke ingestion.

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Seems the week off hasn't done much good, the pedigree is still on heat.
Janedo yaar kargil operation was shame for pakistan :rofl:
 
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Yes we have already got half the Kashmir...rest is taking little bit more time than usual..do you have any doubt that.

What repeated warnings to an unarmed aircraft you are talking about..which you did after firing the missile.

Maharaja of Kashmir signed treaty of accession only after your nomadic Taliban started looting, raping and plundering the Kashmiries.That treaty paved way for us to halt your aggression so technically you didn't take a inch from India.

Now comming to bit by bit part ,are you talking about Siachin or parts of Kargil we snatched from you in 1971 ??

No we asked your naval plane to be escorted at one of our bases for inspection but they took their chance in escaping and paid the price .

Its noteworthy that South Asia's first and up till now the last aircraft shooting were both done by Pakistan.

On 10th of August 1999 last plane of Indian subcontinent was shot down and that happens to be Pakistani Naval plane . Do you mean Pakistan itsel shot down it' own plane ??
 
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Maharaja of Kashmir signed treaty of accession only after your nomadic Taliban started looting, raping and plundering the Kashmiries.That treaty paved way for us to halt your aggression so technically you didn't take a inch from India.

Now comming to bit by bit part ,are you talking about Siachin or parts of Kargil we snatched from you in 1971 ??

No we asked your naval plane to be escorted at one of our bases for inspection but they took their chance in escaping and paid the price .



On 10th of August 1999 last plane of Indian subcontinent was shot down and that happens to be Pakistani Naval plane . Do you mean Pakistan itsel shot down it' own plane ??
Cowards like you can only come with excuses....yes sir we have made mistakes in the past but at the same time learned few things...your mighty army have no balls to cross the border...try it we are here to take care of you and don't come up with an excuse that we don't cross international border.

There were no talibans in 47 so come out from your obsession, I am just wondering how long your consulates gonna survive in Afghanistan once the NATO moved out.

Does someone from across recognize this pic below?

A group of Pakistanis in Badin inspecting the site where a Pakistan Breguet Atlantic maritime patrol aircraft was shot down by Indian jet fighters.

Nuff said!


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Yes sir we recognise this and have not forgotten the fallen souls who were brutally killed by some cowards across the border.
 
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In case of Sqr Ldr Ajay Ahuja though, it cannot be conclusively established if he was killed after being apprehended or for resisting arrest. Flt Lt Nachiketa did indicate that he tried to resist arrest. What if Sqr Ldr Ahuja did the same and was fired upon as a result of this?
Then the body you received should have had bullet shots in it. And we would not need no conspiracy theorists to bang the bells :-)
and yes i believe you guys all of indians jets ever claimed to be shot down by PAF were engine failures if that make you happy. :rofl:
 
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Then the body you received should have had bullet shots in it. And we would not need no conspiracy theorists to bang the bells :-)
and yes i believe you guys all of indians jets ever claimed to be shot down by PAF were engine failures if that make you happy. :rofl:

Are you really this ignorant? The body of Sqr Ldr Ajay Ahuja HAD TWO BULLET WOUNDS on it when it was handed over by Pakistan.

And don't act dense. Nobody's telling all crashes were due to engine flameouts. One crash has been attributed to a man-portable SAM by India as well.
 
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"Both IAF jets were shot inside Pak territory which were involved in hostile attack"

"A living prisoner is more useful than a dead one, Pak Army did not kill Ahuja"

"No one, not even the Defence Attache turned up to receive their own pilot"



Indian Air Force openly entered into the conflict on 26 May 1999 and launched air strikes 10 kms across LoC inside Pakistani territory. Pakistan warned that if India would continue to violate its airspace than it would target them in retaliation. On 27 May 1999, IAF MiG-27ML (Serial No. 1135) flown by Flt Lt K. Nachiketa of No. 9 Squadron intruded into Pakistan airspace at 11:15 a.m. (PST) near Hunzi Ghund. It intruded twice and first marked a Pakistani position on the LoC with smoke bombs and then came in for a rocketing and strafing attack on the same post. Gunner Shafaqat Ali commanded by Capt. Faheem Tipu of Air Defence using an ANZA-II SAM tracked and shot down the MiG as it exited. The pilot ejected and was taken POW. He resisted with his pistol after landing and was involved in a fire fight with Pakistani troops to evade capture.

Shortly later, two more Indian MiG-21 jets intruded into Pakistan airspace at 11:35 a.m. (PST) and dived in for a rocketing attack on the same Pakistani position. Naik Talib Hussain Basharat again commanded by Capt. Faheem Tipu started tracking and one of the MiG-21 (Serial No. C1539) was shot down again with ANZA-II SAM at a height of 1,500 metres. The wreckage fell 10-12 kilometres inside Pakistan territory. The pilot, Sqn Ldr Ajay Ahuja of No. 17 Squadron was killed and the body was handed over to India on 29 May 1999.



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Pak Army soldiers with the tail of Indian MiG-21 fighter jet in Hunzi Ghund in Pakistan territory.
After the Indian jets were shot down, Indian media started a propaganda that Pakistan Army could not shoot any Indian aircrafts and the IAF is continuing their activities. The Pakistani defence spokesman Brig. Rashid Qureshi refuted it and cleared that after the Indian planes had been shot down they did not violate the Pakistani airspace and continued to patrol inside Indian territory at a very high altitude.

When FIt Lt. Nachiketa was released on 4 June 1999 as a unilateral gesture of goodwill by Pakistan, on the order of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, no one, not even the Defence Attache turned up to receive their own pilot. The reason they did not want to be publicly seen receiving their prisoner pilot back. The Foreign Office had taken precautions to associate the ICRC with the wellbeing of the Indian pilot. They examined him and found him medically fit in the condition they took his custody and transported him to the border. Squadron Leader Ahuja's body was returned with full military honours by the Pakistan Army, that has always stuck by the traditions of the battlefield. As Ahuja's body was handed over to India, even before any post-mortem examination it raised alarm that Ahuja may have shot dead after he had parachuted safely to the ground. India had maintained that the Ahuja had "ejected after his MiG-21 was hit by a surface to air missile fired upon from across the LoC."Later India maintained that according to the post-mortem report Ahuja was shot twice-once through the ear and again in the chest. India launched strong protest with Pakistan over the 'brutal shooting' of Sqn Ldr. Ahuja by his Pakistani captors. This was another attempt to malign Pakistan in the eyes of the world. Knowing fully well that Ahuja fighter plane was shot down when it was engaged in rocketing, artillery firing and automatic firing. In such a combat situation some bullets hitting Ahuja can not be ruled out.

IAF changed their operational technique after their jets were shot down and used Jaguars and Mirage 2000 fighter jets. They also began using laser-guided bombs from high-altitude. As a result, their bombing was ineffective and they failed to clear the targets.


The remains of the ejection seat and other survival equipments belonging to one of the downed MiGs.
voila still trying to show off in a defeat ????? god must be crazy ... what you are trying to prove here???? how many times Pak lied in this infiltration. .. first claimed it was terrorists later freedom fighter and lastly accepted truth... I don't know why you always come with claims without proofs or claims based on some blogs...

Then the body you received should have had bullet shots in it. And we would not need no conspiracy theorists to bang the bells :-)
and yes i believe you guys all of indians jets ever claimed to be shot down by PAF were engine failures if that make you happy. :rofl:
Dude Pakistan fried left and right because of kargil ... so feel free to claim anything to satisfy your ego.

Guys chest thumping thieves like Indians would never believe..for them there media is the most honest and professional.yes the chest thumping Indian thieves can shot down an unarmed aircraft, looks like Indian meaty balls have turned into veggie balls now.
ladies ... Pakistan lost kargil.. but we succeeded in 71 war....
 
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