Shield in the sky A MUST READ

[zaxcolix]

There are simpler ways to deceive ABM radar.
Such as chaff , metal balloons and some other techniques,but no hint on what method Pakistan is using or Planning to use....
Can you ask RAW and let us know pliss?

Oh NO...pakistan is going to defeat us using chaff and balloons ...... next step in BM evolution.

Next evolution will be using clowns and water cannons mummy ... i hate clowns.

 

[IND151]

Pakistan do have tactical Nukes , Pakistan also I believe developed Nuke Canons which are difficult to intercept.

when did this happen?

 

[Hellraiser007]

^^^ Ballistic Missile costs same or less than an ABM system..But we cannot compare the price to the protection it provides.
Creating a deception for ABM is also much cheaper than improving the ABM..
Adding Chaff and metal Balloons to warhead assembly doesn't cost much..
Eventually the ABM will be laser based...



Transporting the cannons capable of firing those nukes is a nightmare and not easy

Mate these can be used as an effective defensive shield on an invading army.

 

[zaxcolix]

when did this happen?

Last time aliens crash landed in rawlpindi ....they left it behind.

 

[IND151]

Oh NO...pakistan is going to defeat us using chaff and balloons ...... next step in BM evolution.

Next evolution will be using clowns and water cannons mummy ... i hate clowns.

Safriz is right.

ABM had the upper hand in era of single warhead BMs as it was very easy to produce and maintain a small interceptor missile than
a costly medium and heavy ICBM.

Things change dramatically with advent of MIRV as single MIRV ed ICBM can deliver multiple nukes while defender will need multiple interceptors; thus making it costly to maintain ABM and reducing practicability of ABM

chaff and balloons are also effective, though not as MIRV as BM with balloons and chaffs will still have single real warhead, while MIRV ed BM will have multiple warheads, ensuring much greater possibility of target being destroyed and greater damage as multiple warheads will spread and explode over a wide area (unlike single nuke where most kinetic energy is directed at point zero)

 

[Hellraiser007]

when did this happen?

from wiki

Nowadays, nuclear artillery has almost been replaced with mobile tactical ballistic missile launchers carrying missiles with nuclear warheads. However, some countries, such as China, India and Pakistan, are still using nuclear artillery as an alternative method derived from conventional ballistic missiles.

Nuclear artillery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[zaxcolix]

from wiki
Nuclear artillery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India too ?

 

[born]

Noob question ,

does MIRV warhead has propulsion ?

 

[IND151]

^^ India may already have nuclear artillery

we have developed sub kiloton nuke and tested it in 1998

 

[Contrarian]

^^^ Ballistic Missile costs same or less than an ABM system..But we cannot compare the price to the protection it provides.
Creating a deception for ABM is also much cheaper than improving the ABM..
Adding Chaff and metal Balloons to warhead assembly doesn't cost much..
Eventually the ABM will be laser based...

True. However it will be one layer of protection. Hard Kill systems are needed and will be needed after lasers take over. There are many problems with using lasers. Development of missile based ABM systems will keep on going. We wish to be at the head of the curve.

In anycase even in case of lasers - or space based lasers - very few countries are in a position to exploit the evolving technology. We are on the threashold of that club which will be entered once we have our own cryogenic engines. It is the single biggest factor stopping our space development.

 

[IND151]

Noob question ,

does MIRV warhead has propulsion ?

In a MIRV, the main rocket motor (or booster) pushes a "bus" (see illustration) into a free-flight suborbital ballistic flight path. After the boost phase the bus maneuvers using small on-board rocket motors and a computerized inertial guidance system. It takes up a ballistic trajectory that will deliver a reentry vehicle containing a warhead to a target, and then releases a warhead on that trajectory. It then maneuvers to a different trajectory, releasing another warhead, and repeats the process for all warheads.

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...zoHQBw&usg=AFQjCNFsU8h_B2ofJughbyUoME77edBxGQ

 

[OrionHunter]

Let's be clear on one thing. There is no system in the world that can be 100% foolproof to stop a simultaneous attack by a missile cluster from a multitude of directions. Even if a couple of nuclear tipped missiles get through, it would be curtains!

In other words, if Pakistan wants to destroy a city, they would fire a couple of dozen missiles, vectoring on to the target from different directions. Now, even if one nominal yield 20kt nuke gets through, which eventually will......nuff said!

So, all said and done, the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) and the threat of a nuclear first strike or nuclear riposte still stands.

I therefore don't fully subscribe to DRDOs, "Don't worry, be happy", line.

 

[Contrarian]

That line is just for public consumption. The biggest benefit of ABM is not it's use but the effect it has on Pakistan financial and social. Also changes the cost benefit calculation of PA of entering a skirmish based on security by BM.

 

[IND151]

That line is just for public consumption. The biggest benefit of ABM is not it's use but the effect it has on Pakistan financial and social. Also changes the cost benefit calculation of PA of entering a skirmish based on security by BM.

that's correct

 

[IND151]

Important Info

INDIA is gearing up to deploy, in 2013 or 2014, a ballistic missile defense (BMD) shield around the capital New Delhi and around strategic assets such as the commercial capital Mumbai and political targets such as residences of top political leaders. In Phase II of the project, long-range radars and more powerful interceptors will be developed to engage enemy missiles launched from more than 2,000 kilometers away. More importantly, India’s BMD shield can take care of multiple attacker missiles by launching multiple interceptor missiles simultaneously. A ship-based platform is also being planned to launch the interceptors.

Enviable record

The Defense Research and Development Organisation’s (DRDO) top-brass, V.K. Saraswat and Avinash Chander, made these announcements within a couple of hours of the resounding success of the interceptor missile launch on November 23. The DRDO has an enviable record in its interceptor missile tests. Out of eight tests, beginning from November 27, 2006, to the latest one, seven have been unvarnished successes.

Soon after the success of the seventh test on February 10, 2012, Saraswat, Director General, DRDO, who is Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, asserted: “The mission was done in deployment mode, close to the final user [the Army] configuration…. Its success confirms that the country is ready to take it to the next phase of production and induction” ( Frontline, March 9, 2012). Avinash Chander, Chief Controller R&D (Missiles and Strategic Systems), DRDO, was equally assertive on February 10: “The entire operation was close to the deployment configuration,” he said. D.S. Reddy, then Programme Director, Advanced Air Defence (AAD), said the test proved that India had graduated “from experimental mode to deployment mode”.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/223964-shield-sky-must-read.html#ixzz2Eq0ACs5w