Shenyang J-15 aircraft carrier-based aircraft

[Genesis]

Now this is the problem i have been saying all along, Liaoning cannot bring out 100% of the J-15, why don't they wait for their own CATOBAR Carrier comes out first, then introduce the J-15? It's like you have a sniper rifle that it can shoot accurately within 5000 yards, but you purposely test them on a pistol range.......

CATOBAR and STOBAR/STOVL carrier are two different operation, hence it is seperated in the US Military. USMC command STOBAR OPs while USN command CATOBAR OPs

First we had the hull, so it's a lot easier and cheaper not to mention faster.

Second, having no experience with a carrier, we can't just go into it head first with nothing, so a test of some kind is needed, so refer to point one.

Third US is not keen to help us, maybe Russia, but they are not a great naval nation to begin with so their experience in this field is well limited.

So taking everything into consideration, you still think it's possible to do what you propose?

 

[S10]

Funny Chinese Trolls miss conversation decorum in frustration.

Very entertaining.

You know what is entertaining? An imbecile from a country unable to produce its own fighters bragging about how inferior J-15 is. It's like a failing class retard laughing at someone for only scoring 80% on a test. I am totally frustrated by your stupidity.

P.S. Have you replaced the flying coffins with second generation flying coff....I mean LCA yet?

 

[jhungary]

First we had the hull, so it's a lot easier and cheaper not to mention faster.

Second, having no experience with a carrier, we can't just go into it head first with nothing, so a test of some kind is needed, so refer to point one.

Third US is not keen to help us, maybe Russia, but they are not a great naval nation to begin with so their experience in this field is well limited.

So taking everything into consideration, you still think it's possible to do what you propose?

I think you seriously misunderstand the term "doctrine"

The US operate their carrier force under their own doctrine, which is 2 carrier with strike group call, supported by subs and LHD for off shore operations. You will see that every time the US roll with their carrier every time

China , on the other hand, have no doctrine on running carrier/group. Problem is you either follow someone else's or you make your own. Since you get your ship, the hull from Ukraine, it's only natural to copy the ex-USSR doctrine and run mig29 on it. I don't think Russian/Ukrainian did not tell you anything when they transfer their ship

I am just stating my point, if you do go ahead with using j-15 liaoning, then expect to relearn everything come when china deploy their first catobar carrier, you are just wasting you time and money until 2018. When your catobar start commission. It will be a different ball game

 

[HariPrasad]

Every news about India armed forces are entertaining Chinese and Pakistanis, after all we haven't invented a sub that sinks itself yet.

Very entertaining.

Ignorant Chinese always talk like very knowledgeable person. Very entertaining.

Chinese submarine 361 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of Chinese military accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

70 die in China submarine accident | Mail Online

Very entertaining.

You know what is entertaining? An imbecile from a country unable to produce its own fighters bragging about how inferior J-15 is. It's like a failing class retard laughing at someone for only scoring 80% on a test. I am totally frustrated by your stupidity.

P.S. Have you replaced the flying coffins with second generation flying coff....I mean LCA yet?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!

Onother semi educated on the loose.!!!!!!!!

 

[S10]

Ignorant Chinese always talk like very knowledgeable person. Very entertaining.

Chinese submarine 361 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of Chinese military accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

70 die in China submarine accident | Mail Online

Very entertaining.




HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!

Onother semi educated on the loose.!!!!!!!!

You see, we were able to produce our own AIP subs from lessons learned. What can you produce? Perhaps you can show us how to torpedo your own boat in the future? On second thought, I don't want to catch the stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

Now this was funny.

 

[sicsheep]

Hhaha this list is short compared to the Indian one...

 

[HariPrasad]

You see, we were able to produce our own AIP subs from lessons learned. What can you produce? Perhaps you can show us how to torpedo your own boat in the future? On second thought, I don't want to catch the stupid.

Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now this was funny.

Funny Chinese troll citing 1962 war to defend hi crap fighter.

Very entertaining.

 

[Lightningbolt]

Funny Chinese troll citing 1962 war to defend hi crap fighter.

Very entertaining.

Don't ever compare your country to us.

Do you realise what an insult it is to be compared to India?

Being compared to India means we are going backwards.

There is no greater insult to us than being compared with India and Indians.

 

[rcrmj]

this 'creditable' Taiwan news surely gave those inferior complex and primitive indian a good toss of their bell-end heads..

this is what they really needed at the moment, as their feudal monarchies merrily brainfucked the 'shining' slum and its dwellers again, but hard this time.

 

[rcrmj]

Don't ever compare your country to us.

Do you realise what an insult it is to be compared to India?

Being compared to India means we are going backwards.

There is no greater insult to us than being compared with India and Indians.

when I compared India with turkey, my turkey classmates felt insulted
when I compared India with Vietnam, that restaurant owner felt insulted
when I compared India with U.S, that tourist in my shop felt unpleasant
when I compared India with Arabs, my arab classmates felt insulted
when at the opening day at Uni, I misjudged one of the mates as Indian, he was not happy for many days

so mate, I don't think it only applies to us. their foul reputation does not come from nowhere

 

[Genesis]

I think you seriously misunderstand the term "doctrine"

The US operate their carrier force under their own doctrine, which is 2 carrier with strike group call, supported by subs and LHD for off shore operations. You will see that every time the US roll with their carrier every time

China , on the other hand, have no doctrine on running carrier/group. Problem is you either follow someone else's or you make your own. Since you get your ship, the hull from Ukraine, it's only natural to copy the ex-USSR doctrine and run mig29 on it. I don't think Russian/Ukrainian did not tell you anything when they transfer their ship

I am just stating my point, if you do go ahead with using j-15 liaoning, then expect to relearn everything come when china deploy their first catobar carrier, you are just wasting you time and money until 2018. When your catobar start commission. It will be a different ball game

ex-USSR doctrine is useless, the USSR is not a naval power. Besides, we bought the ship as a casino, maybe they gave us a lesson in serving vodka to customers, but not in carrier operations.

Carrier operation is different and yet the same, the US doctrine isn't suited for China, mostly because we don't have quit as many carrier nor are our missions the same. The different launch methods and equipments on a carrier will change things, but it's not as big a leap as no carrier to carrier.

LAstly, it's not like without the liaoning we would have had a catapult carrier now, it's more like it would be commissioned around 2020 regardless, and to fill in the gap we got this floating casino of a carrier out at sea.

It's also a chance to train the pilots, though I will admit I don't know what the pilot needs to know and how different it is for launching and landing between the different carriers.

 

[Lightningbolt]

when I compared India with turkey, my turkey classmates felt insulted
when I compared India with Vietnam, that restaurant owner felt insulted
when I compared India with U.S, that tourist in my shop felt unpleasant
when I compared India with Arabs, my arab classmates felt insulted
when at the opening day at Uni, I misjudged one of the mates as Indian, he was not happy for many days

so mate, I don't think it only applies to us. their foul reputation does not come from nowhere

Totally agree.

Most Africans would feel insulted to be compared to Indians.

 

[IND151]

ex-USSR doctrine is useless, the USSR is not a naval power. Besides, we bought the ship as a casino, maybe they gave us a lesson in serving vodka to customers, but not in carrier operations.

Carrier operation is different and yet the same, the US doctrine isn't suited for China, mostly because we don't have quit as many carrier nor are our missions the same. The different launch methods and equipments on a carrier will change things, but it's not as big a leap as no carrier to carrier.

LAstly, it's not like without the liaoning we would have had a catapult carrier now, it's more like it would be commissioned around 2020 regardless, and to fill in the gap we got this floating casino of a carrier out at sea.

It's also a chance to train the pilots, though I will admit I don't know what the pilot needs to know and how different it is for launching and landing between the different carriers.

Soviet Navy was global naval power throughout 70s and 80s, mainly due to expansion and leadership of Gorshkov.

They were the pioneers of STOBAR carries and launched several ones, one of which is Varyag.

 

[Luftwaffe]

What I say is that once you free the media in China and that too when true democracy prevails, we shall see the media(Chinese) tearing down the Chinese defense equipments just like our media tears down DRDO and others, where they take the cue and troll in PDF. This is tip of iceberg!!

You must be an idiot to tell that media can actually tear down defense equipment really media getting close to BVR missile?radars?SAMs?Jets where the watch dog would first tear their arses. You hindustans and your 0 level IQs.

Your media doesn't tear down DRDO, your companies and organization let down themselves by their hands by testing the products in front of the whole world which fails and collapse with-in short period, your media is not mature enough like BBC to dig into such sensitive information.

 

[S10]

Funny Chinese troll citing 1962 war to defend hi crap fighter.

Very entertaining.

Well it just proves we're better than you in every possible way. Unlike you, we don't get orgasms from third rate news sites quoting some unknown Taiwan source which has no access to Chinese military information.