Shed insecurities: India to Pakistan

[Ganga]

That's more of a rant than factuality. The UN says its a disputed territory, till a plebiscite is conducted. It makes their status disputed.

200000 people voted during the plebiscite of junagadh.Only 91 voted for Pakistan.But still you guys consider junagadh Pakistani territory and include junagadh in all official maps.This shows tat Pakistan is not respecting the plebiscite held at that time.In that case it will be wrong to call for a plebiscite in Kashmir.

 

[M8R]

What do u think?.. Dont u think that its the right way to deal???
or should we do/try to do that in Israel style????
I think the above are the only 2 options we had... and I think we did go in the right way....

Well you can try it - but if you your own agents end up getting killed don't blame ISI.Pakistan is not Dubai.

 

[foxbat]

The 1 billion people don't matter, only Kashmiris and their right for self-determination matters. Grant them the plebiscite and then whatever result comes, that should be it.

But Asim, they do matter. And the Kashmiris you talk of are a part of that 1 billion. What doesnt matter is whether folks in Pakistan and a part of that Kashmiri population likes this fact or not.

In today's world, the talk of plebiscite in Kashmir is mostly rhetorical which is used by Pakistan to keep some part of its population's mind share diverted away from its intrinsic problems

 

[Aimar]

Well you can try it - but if you your own agents end up getting killed don't blame ISI.Pakistan is not Dubai.

why should we complain for that ?? Is pakistan complaining when the terrorists from their soil is coming to India to kill people ?? so dont worry..its just the way you do it..only in case its done.

 

[foxbat]

Killing Indian soldiers in Kashmir is not terrorism, its our right.

Killing Pakistani civilians in Pakistan by Indians through support of Taliban and various factions operating in Pakistan is terrorism.

That's your personal definition of whats acceptable and whats not. Indian stand on both your points above is very different.

 

[deesu]

Well you can try it - but if you your own agents end up getting killed don't blame ISI.Pakistan is not Dubai.

why don't u ask ur might ISI to clear the mess it had created in your own country first...?

 

[AbuSalam]

india is a menace in the region of South Asia ..

Whoz the epicenter of international terrorism ? is also a nuisance..now to point..itsn't it best for kashmir to be part of India and enjoy its prosperity than under a state who's future is uncertain ???
better Pakistan forget kashmir and close all terrorist camps, because every explosion is making India resolve to finish pakistan though economically & diplomatically.there was a time in Indian history when Indian muslims used to think that Kashmir should go to Pakistan,but not anymore,for every surge that India make forward its people's confidence & drive knows boundaries.Pakistan has run out of ideas to annex Indian Kashmir and nobody have guts in Pakistan to do a peace move with India thru shelving kashmir issue so better status quo is maintained,isn't better to live alongside peacefully than prickle an elephant,

 

[T-pain]

c one possible thing i have concluded wat can be achieved frm the talks.

on one hand pak will recieve
1)indian interference in baluchistan,from afgh shud be stopped
2)water issue ,if there is any,will be solved.
on other hand india will recieve
1)loc as an border
2)funding and promotion of terror in kashmir.

just give and take.
also remember india is already consuming kashmir ,only pakistan is in hush hush.
baluchistan will be a big issue in the future and u.s is going to use it.whenever they have their interest very much completed.

 

[Awesome]

But Asim, they do matter. And the Kashmiris you talk of are a part of that 1 billion. What doesnt matter is whether folks in Pakistan and a part of that Kashmiri population likes this fact or not.

In today's world, the talk of plebiscite in Kashmir is mostly rhetorical which is used by Pakistan to keep some part of its population's mind share diverted away from its intrinsic problems

Kashmiris are part of that 1 billion is an Indian point of view. No Kashmiri would agree to that assessment. Pakistan confidently challenges this assertion time and again by asking for a plebiscite, India shies away.

So your foundations are all on shaky grounds. If you are so confident about the loyalties of the Kashmiris, hold a UN administered plebiscite.

 

[Dr.Evil]

Pakistan should be paid back in the same coin. GOI needs to support all the freedom movements in pakistan.

GOI should provide all the Moral and diplomatic support.

That will bring them to senses for supporting terrorists (oops. Jihad)

 

[blueoval79]

The problem is that for Pakistanis the meaning of Plebiscite is that it will have only two options....
1. A free Kashmir...which is highly unlikely considering Pakistan's policy

2. Join Pakistan..... considering that most of Hindus have to run away from Kashmir saving their lives.

There is another options that their books don't teach them....which is Join India....

Thats why the Pakistanis jump around saying we want plebiscite....we want plebiscite.......may be they should be told that last time a plebiscite happened...it went in favor of India....remember Junagarh...but hey even that is claimed to be rigged....

 

[username]

Killing Indian soldiers in Kashmir is not terrorism, its our right.

Killing Pakistani civilians in Pakistan by Indians through support of Taliban and various factions operating in Pakistan is terrorism

What is your proof that India supports your Taliban ?

 

[username]

Isn't it India who is asking us to trust them? Killing Indian soldiers in Kashmir is our right since its a disputed territory, and officially recognized as such by the United Nations.

You may expand the war upon us through Afghanistan, but don't ask us for our trust and to be nice while you're sending in suicide bombers into Pakistan.

As seen by your justifications of continued tyranny in Kashmir and support for terrorism in Pakistan through Afghanistan, is there a single reason why we should entertain your request to trust you?

More and more BS, where the heck is your proof...

 

[username]

Why beat around the bush, just say it the way it is. That one attack in india (regardless of who does it) and your goons blow up at 10 different places in Pakistan, while killing many.

Listen, don't go nuts... first give something called as proof that India is behind your terrorist problems...

 

[Aslan]

Listen, don't go nuts... first give something called as proof that India is behind your terrorist problems...

Well where is the proof that Pakistan is behind all that goes down in india. So why dont u provide us with proof.