Sharjeel Usmani Speaks after Release on Bail

[jamahir]

no sane, self respecting Muslim is a lefty.

Incorrect. Please read this thread 2016 - an article by Nadeem Paracha chronicling socialist activism among Muslims from the early 1900s onward.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Incorrect. Please read this thread 2016 - an article by Nadeem Paracha chronicling socialist activism among Muslims from the early 1900s onward.

Your socialism posts are not just boring but you keep ranting about it all the time too.
There is no left or right versions of something which is (or claims to be) COMPLETE.
You dont need socialism, communism, capitalism or any other "ism" to add as icing on top of something which is (or claims to be) COMPLETE.
It is (or claims to be) COMPLETE already.

 

[jamahir]

Your socialism posts are not just boring but you keep ranting about it all the time too.

Is this recent tragedy ( death by hunger ) at a Bihar railway station boring to you ?

You dont need socialism, communism, capitalism or any other "ism" to add as icing on top of something which is (or claims to be) COMPLETE.
It is (or claims to be) COMPLETE already.

And what is already complete ?

 

[Iltutmish]

Is this recent tragedy ( death by hunger ) at a Bihar railway station boring to you ?

This is sad, but the problem here also lies in the implementation of a free market. Cronyism, nomenclature, Anti business laws, high taxes and regulations are key factors for poverty. You will find all these features in socialist and communist societies.

 

[Protest_again]

What was before Hinduism? Indian culture was shaped by Muslims for over a millennia and now a random butthurt Hindu is coming out and tells us what Indian culture is and what not. Get over it, Islam is here to stay not only in India but all over the world!

Muslims were given a separate land for this reason only. They lost right to decide the course of India in 1947. They can practice their religion but with in what Indian constitution allows them to.

Abrahamic religions have rules and stuff, shocking turn of events! Every human society has a sense for „membership“ this is in our DNA, not a special Muslim thing.

If those rules are against the idea of nationalism, muslims will have to limit their application. Simple.

In your First paragraph you state that Abrahmic religions are not native to India and now they should accept their nativeness? Muslims don’t tend to assimilate into Hindu culture, because your concepts are alien to us and in some cases the mere antithesis to our religion and culture. No way to forcefully align this things.

I don't understand your confusion. Religion is not native but people are. What it means country before religion.

They were given a choice to emigrate to Pakistan in 1947. I am quoting from the same constitution that they choose to believe in. Infact, while constituent assembly was drafting the constitution, it is the hindu scriptures that were quoted not Quran. Overall culture of this land will be non-abrahamic based. You just have to like it, if you want to live here.

Leftism and Islam are like Hinduism and Islam, no sane, self respecting Muslim is a lefty. Even though a communist mullah here in this forum will disagree

I said Islamists are using leftism as a garb to further their agenda. Our naive leftists in order to oppose Modi are helping them. Both will be crushed.

Nationalism is not an Islamic concept and it brought many bad things especially in the last 100 years. You want Muslims to become Hindus in order to have an Indian nation. How to tell you that this will never happen? You know that, I know that, the whole world knows that. Pissing of Muslims will beget more violence and more unrest. A price Hindu nationalist

If Saudi Arabia and Pakistan can choose to ignore Rohingya crisis or Uighur crisis, which Islam are we talking about. What happened to UAE when it cozied with Israel even when it is detrimental to Palestine. Hypocrisy much?

How about you Hindus eat what you want and don’t bother other religions with your dietary rules? And Muslim eat what they want? Or is drinking cow urine and dung part of Hindu nation building?

Indian secularism allows for state to reform religion. And cow slaughter rules were set by constitution makers not Modi. Constitution is supreme in India not even God. Remember we are talking about India not Pakistan. Don't talk like Muslims will revolt and will crush Hindus and such BS. Not happened in 70 years and not going to happen now.

 

[jamahir]

@Iltutmish, will reply tomorrow. Sleep. Am logging-off.

 

[Iltutmish]

Muslims were given a separate land for this reason only. They lost right to decide the course of India in 1947. They can practice their religion but with in what Indian constitution allows them to.

Ok. Thanks for your honesty. So Hindu fascim is the way to go.

If those rules are against the idea of nationalism, muslims will have to limit their application. Simple.

Are there dedicated Hindu gods for nationalism?

I don't understand your confusion. Religion is not native but people are. What it means country before religion.

Yes, and people don't have an ancestry, religion, ethnicities, languages they speak. People are individuals and if you don't respect that you will have unrest forever. Muslims are not known for bowing to Hindus.

They were given a choice to emigrate to Pakistan in 1947. I am quoting from the same constitution that they choose to believe in. Infact, while constituent assembly was drafting the constitution, it is the hindu scriptures that were quoted not Quran. Overall culture of this land will be non-abrahamic based. You just have to like it, if you want to live here.

Muslim rule and influence cannot be wiped out from India. For this our message is too strong and the spirit of Islam is still alive and kicking. You even advertise India with the Taj Mahal because your Hindu temples are disturbing for Westerneres! Hypocrisy much?

If Saudi Arabia and Pakistan can choose to ignore Rohingya crisis or Uighur crisis, which Islam are we talking about. What happened to UAE when it cozied with Israel even when it is detrimental to Palestine. Hypocrisy much?

Islam != Muslims

Indian secularism allows for state to reform religion. And cow slaughter rules were set by constitution makers not Modi. Constitution is supreme in India not even God.

Ok. Cheers.

Don't talk like Muslims will revolt and will crush Hindus and such BS. Not happened in 70 years and not going to happen now.

Have you ever read a history book?

 

[GHALIB]

Bangladesh is a Muslim state as per partition

Free of hindutva India

Altaf is a drunkard and retard, even the blind and senile have understood what a disaster India has become

Whilst social media can be untruthful it's a window into a country and in Indian case it's full of poison and hatred for other Indians

bangladesh and muhajirs are prime example for indian muslims how muhajir and bangali muslims wwere treated for making pakistan..
so indian muslims can't dream of leaving india where they have equal rights with all other indians .
i am not talking about few thousand traitors .

 

[Protest_again]

Ok. Thanks for your honesty. So Hindu fascim is the way to go

What is Hindu Fascism? No body is asking any one to change. Just to have interest of the country at heart.

Yes, and people don't have an ancestry, religion, ethnicities, languages they speak. People are individuals and if you don't respect that you will have unrest forever. Muslims are not known for bowing to Hindus.

They'll bow down to Constitution in India. No body is asking them to bow down to Hindus.

Muslim rule and influence cannot be wiped out from India. For this our message is too strong and the spirit of Islam is still alive and kicking. You even advertise India with the Taj Mahal because your Hindu temples are disturbing for Westerneres! Hypocrisy much?

That was hypocritical congress.
Taj Mahal left out of an Indian tourism booklet - BBC News - BBC.com

Islam != Muslims

How convenient.

Ok. Cheers.

This doesn't affect anyone. This is if at all is self infliction not affliction on the others. So no reforms needed. Religious vices like Caste, Untouchability, Sati, Dowry etc which have sanction in religion are made criminal. Triple Talaq was removed based on this premise.

Have you ever read a history book?

I am talking about Independent indian history. Muslims when revolted have suffered the most.

 

[GHALIB]

Yaar we are not Switzerland, yes you have issues

But our cities don't burn in communal hatred or riots

The state, social media, general population, law enforcement is all united against any brutality towards minorities

I personally hate Hindus, but would never accept a jungle Raj where the police help mobs lynch people





This is happening in India
Your police are joining Hindutva mobs

Your politicians justify criminality and brutality


Your social media is full of toxicity and poison for other Indians


You can have a state such as this it's poison for all South Asia

you have all types of mistreatment meted out to minorities , minorities are second class citizen in your country , they are separated for doing gutter cleaning jobs . hindus can't build a mandir in islamabad .
where as in india muslims make lakhs of masjids in india , muslims are free to get all jobs , any post in the country , muslim population is increasing every year . in your country non muslims are not allowed in constitution to get important jobs or posts in pakistan , masihis are forced to take gutter cleaning jobs in pakistan .

 

[GHALIB]

Altaf Hussain appears a retard to me. Please refrain quoting or referencing him if you want to make some statement with substance.

pl refrain from hurting sentiments of muhajirs , altaf hussain is biggest leader of muhajirs , his struggle for muhajirs will be written in golden letters when muhajirs will have their rights and say in pakistan society .

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Is this recent tragedy ( death by hunger ) at a Bihar railway station boring to you ?

LOL. Please dont bowl doosra. I can play only googly.

And what is already complete ?

The last, perfect, all-encompassing, all-pervading one&only message from the one&only via the one&only

 

[xeuss]

and how many of those have been gotten rid of by the BJP/Modi prashasan ?

the streamlining of the bureaucracy, the ease of doing business, tax reform (iffy, but being tweaked).. all these 'yojanas' for the most vulnerable in society regardless of what religion..

oh please, most people have zero interest in denigrating anyone of their countrymen

unless you're going by what is said on a highly censored Pakistani forum.

of course Indian Hindus talk shit here, as have I (lost my cool and made my otherwise common sense point deliberately a bit nasty.. it happens lol)

we are not a hateful people, and neither are you (for the overwhelming part anyway, and we get along just fine out in real India... and you know it too)

The favorite past time of all Indians is to denigrate one another. This spans across all classes, castes, regions and ethnicity. The most hate is reserved for Muslims and the results as obvious for all to see.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

The favorite past time of all Indians is to denigrate one another. This spans across all classes, castes, regions and ethnicity. The most hate is reserved for Muslims and the results as obvious for all to see.

to tu chala ja kahin. apni identity chod de aur kuch aur ban ja.
apni originality to ek baar waise bhi chod chuka hai.
ek baar aur sahi. kyon?

 

[GHALIB]

The favorite past time of all Indians is to denigrate one another. This spans across all classes, castes, regions and ethnicity. The most hate is reserved for Muslims and the results as obvious for all to see.

first become a patriotic indian stop hating non muslim religions , everything will become simple for you .