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Sharif's loss may strengthen army, has India worried

Stop alleging the man to be a traitor. God damn have some self respect as citizens of Pakistan.

Give him atleast a benefit of the doubt.

All politicians are business man.

Nawaz will turn on a coin in a split second if the opportunity makes business sense to him.

No current politician is different to Nawaz Sharif.
 
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Actually, Army Cheif taking over Pakistan is better for India. In the current situation, the civilian faces the rest of the world and is controlled by the army on their foreign policies. Every time we make some agreement with the civilian government we are unsure if the military if willing or unwilling to support. If Army does not want to support it sabotages the plan. Mushy made deals with India as Army chief and was able to deliver on it, proves that Army is better for us.
Agreed, the fact is military runs the affairs and civilian govt is just an official apologist. We are better off directly dealing with instigators rather than powerless facade. India will be able to provide apt and direct response instead of being bound by any moral dilemma of hurting a democracy.
 
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Agreed, the fact is military runs the affairs and civilian govt is just an official apologist. We are better off directly dealing with instigators rather than powerless facade. India will be able to provide apt and direct response instead of being bound by any moral dilemma of hurting a democracy.

Has it ever worked out? Lol
 
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do we want LeT to take over civilian arm of pakistani government ?
whats the difference, arent they already hand in glove with military? Let cannot take over without military's help that is nothing but military running the affairs..

Has it ever worked out? Lol
musharaff ? when behind the power they will indulge in monkey tricks but once they are visible they have to play by the rule book
 
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whats the difference, arent they already hand in glove with military? Let cannot take over without military's help that is nothing but military running the affairs..


musharaff ? when behind the power they will indulge in monkey tricks but once they are visible they have to play by the rule book

So you are saying that musharaf was the ideal partner for you to deal with?

You have zero idea how state affairs are dealt in Pakistan.

You don't know your enemy. I can only wish you luck and for both of us peace.

It's high time India should drop the act and talk peace on Kashmir.
 
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ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: A serious setback to Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif following the disclosure that his daughter and putative heir apparent, Maryam Sharif, had concealed ownership of the family's offshore assets and companies threatens to create new security complications for India.

A Joint Investigation Team (JIT) probing the Panama Papers, in its report to the supreme court, accused Maryam of forgery. The JIT has charged the ruling family with perjury, having disproportionate income and living beyond their means. It said Sharif failed to satisfactorily answer most of the questions put to him during his appearance before investigators on June 15.

"He was generally evasive and seemed preoccupied during the interview. Major part of his statement was based on hearsay," the report said, adding that Sharif remained non-committal, speculative and at times non-cooperative while recording his statement. The report further said Sharif tried to "parry most of the questions" by giving indefinite answers or by stating that "he does not remember, ostensibly to conceal facts".

If the SC decides to implement the report, perhaps by next week, Sharif might either be removed or, at the very least, be rendered completely ineffectual. This could have implications for India in the coming weeks and months, particularly in the security sphere.

India and Pakistan barely have any official interactions any more. The walk-by greeting between PM Narendra Modi and Sharif in Astana epitomised the state of ties, which does not go beyond pleasantries.

But while the loss of Sharif is unlikely to strike a blow at bilateral ties, a change of regime at this time might mean that there will be new players in Islamabad, too new to matter, leaving the job of governance and foreign policy to the army brass in Rawalpindi.

That would be the most obvious coup-like situation, bringing the army back on the frontline of governance, and its unclear whether it would want that. In addition, Sharif 's patrons in Saudi Arabia might not look too kindly on that, and it would certainly play badly in the US. Third, for all his problems, Sharif is still popular in Pakistan. An army-led removal might just help to cement that popularity .

From Ashfaq Kayani to Qamar Bajwa, the army has been loath to removing the civilian government of the day, even though it may be running the country from behind the scenes.

Sharif and his party, PML(N), remain defiant in the face of the opposition's call for his ouster, with the ruling party vowing to challenge the report.

However, the dominant opinion holds that JIT's findings have severely weakened Sharif's position by cutting his avenues of deniability, something which can be a source of worry for India. The outcome of the Sharif investigation and the resultant instability holds out the old red flags -that when Pakistan goes through a crisis, turning the spotlight on India and Kashmir might be a tempting answer.

Pakistan-based terror groups have shown that they can penetrate into J&K fairly easily, the Amarnath attack being the latest. It would be tempting to ratchet up violence in the Kashmir Valley, and use it to fend off international pressure to restore a civilian government

Government circles in New Delhi seem to agree as they brace for what might turn out to be possible post-Sharif scenarios. The general elections are only months away, and if the army wants to preserve the democratic facade, they could allow Sharif to stay on until then. Second, Sharif's younger brother Shahbaz could take over his mantle.

Although Shahbaz would be an easier transition, he might remain severely constrained, and anyway, elections are around the corner, so it is unlikely he would want to pick up the Sharif flak, and might prefer to be a fresh face in the elections.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...my-has-india-worried/articleshow/59570425.cms

Look how much our neighbors care, love and are worried for our corrupt PM. :-)
@django @Arsalan @Zibago @PakSword @Imad.Khan


These Indians are so infatuated with anything Pakistan that its kinda funny. I actually will be happy with anything that makes India worried because it means we are doing something right.
 
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Relatively speaking Nawaz Sharif does not look like weak or incompetent to me. He has tangoed with your army chiefs multiple times in the past. Zardari would be perfect. But then who are we to choose ?
Incompetent is his middle name and when he tangoed with armed forces, the armed forces in the supreme national interest clipped his wings.
 
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I do not see anyone displacing PPP in Sind. the same corrupt politicians in PPP and PML are in the PTI. Pakistanis will vote for the PTI. Then they are going to be disappointed with Imran Khan.
Lol.

Stop alleging the man to be a traitor. God damn have some self respect as citizens of Pakistan.

Give him atleast a benefit of the doubt.

All politicians are business man.

Nawaz will turn on a coin in a split second if the opportunity makes business sense to him.

No current politician is different to Nawaz Sharif.
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As long as he is the prime minister of Pakistan. I can't label him that.

Lol

Harsh reality man.

Let the court decide. If morality was an issue for the politicians the world would have been different buddy.

Be realistic
 
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If Imran Khan was a capable administrator he would have taken KPK province chief minister position and showed the Pakistani people what a capable administrator he was

Incompetent is his middle name and when he tangoed with armed forces, the armed forces in the supreme national interest clipped his wings.

incompetent is a relative term. compared to the likes of some of these politicians he projects an aura of competence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zafarullah_Khan_Jamali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yousaf_Raza_Gillani

whats the difference, arent they already hand in glove with military? Let cannot take over without military's help that is nothing but military running the affairs..


musharaff ? when behind the power they will indulge in monkey tricks but once they are visible they have to play by the rule book

at least the military cannot hide behind the supposed incompetence of civilians
when the military is in charge they keep peace with India
 
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If Imran Khan was a capable administrator he would have taken KPK province chief minister position and showed the Pakistani people what a capable administrator he was



incompetent is a relative term. compared to the likes of some of these politicians he projects an aura of competence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zafarullah_Khan_Jamali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yousaf_Raza_Gillani



at least the military cannot hide behind the supposed incompetence of civilians
when the military is in charge they keep peace with India

Dude Imran khan is as competent as the best India could offer with their genetically engineered Aryans.

Each politician has his role.

If Imran succeeds you got Pathan troubles.
If Nawaz succumbs to pressure its the thousand needles again.

Take your pick. The road only leads to Pakistan trumping India
 
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Dude Imran khan is as competent as the best India could offer with their genetically engineered Aryans.

Each politician has his role.

If Imran succeeds you got Pathan troubles.
If Nawaz succumbs to pressure its the thousand needles again.

Take your pick. The road only leads to Pakistan trumping India

I am fine with Imran Khan as Pakistan's PM. It is one less excuse for the Pakistani masses if their country does not do well
 
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I am fine with Imran Khan as Pakistan's PM. It is one less excuse for the Pakistani masses if their country does not do well

Yupp...

You guys are always giving mauka.

How generous of you.

Thanks for the wishes wise one
 
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India would be better off if Pakistani Army directly controls the nation instead of running it behind a civilian sham.

In my view it is Pakistanis who should be worried if civilians are sidelined by the army.

As an Indian we are least bothered whether Pakistan chooses any Sharif or Bhutto/Zardari or IK to be a figure head. Since it is their army which controls the whole set up.

There is also an allegation that Nawaz has pissed Soudi's off and they are using Raheel Sharif to dethrone NS.

In fact it looks like a comedy circus Good LUCK :enjoy:
whatever you say
your current leadership considers Sherifs as their asset and have very close and personal ties
as it happens whenever politically Sherifs have been in trouble.. the western border suddenly ignites or there is a major terror incident which works very well in favor of sherifs, whether or not there is a connection is debatable but its a happy coincidence for sherifs and it has a strage streak of reoccurring.
Jindals visit on behest of Govt of India to Sherif in Murree in secrecy is testament of this personal relationship where Sherifs were reminded of their £friendship" and help in Yadev's case though weak and half hearted presentation of Pakistani PoV in the international court
 
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Yupp...

You guys are always giving mauka.

How generous of you.

Thanks for the wishes wise one

if you had true democracy you would have gone through half a dozen Imran Khans by now
FYI I am fan of Imran Khan the cricket player
 
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