Shameful - Pakistan, Turkey, Bangaldesh and other Muslims countries

[mudas777]

Whether it be Palestine or Kashmir. But the countries are too weak and US prevents any such possibility.

They are not weak they are sold out and bought out by the United States of America with the green cards and free education for their kids.
How the richest people and proud civilization are so shallow and have got white superiority complex who can be bought out so cheaply. Taliban were weak too but they got their country back as traitors were eliminated from their ranks.
Americans are masters of eliminating, buying out or breaking down Islamic leaders or prospective leaders. Once your leaders are gone rest is history and nothing more then headless chickens shouting worthless slogans. Look at the state of the Middle east from the Libya to Iraq just a waste land, then you got UAE and Saudi Arabia bought and Iran and Syria under constant thread so the US can have a free hand.
Now look at the state of the Pakistan how they let lose our own rouge generals on IK and Bhutto before him to bring down our country its the same script but without any sound of battle cries and beating drums. If you want Kashmir and Palestine recovered start hanging your own whisky drinking generals and Kings first, that's the similar words were used by Indra Ghandi when she was celebrating Bangladesh war victory while dancing with general Arora.
There is no point in shedding rivers of tears look at the causes and fix it.

 

[nahtanbob]

What wishful thinking ? We dont need to create Muslim NATO if there is no big threat to Muslim population.

Europe and USA creates NATO since those nations have real threat from USSR. If we get the same threat, it is so logical that we will create similar alliance. Pure logic.

During Cold War, Muslim Nations are with USA and other Christian countries against Communist power. Each nation has its own responsibility. Indonesia eliminate our own communist, invade East Timor, helping Malaysia fight their communist, and do economic blockade to USSR, China, and Vietnam. We also send weapons to Afghanistan as well (the name of the operation is karpet mabur).

Pakistan and Arabs also support Afghan against USSR

Now Central Asian are freed, we are much much stronger now

There is no threat to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey, Algeria or Morocco from Israel. In which case why bother ?

 

[Indos]

There is no threat to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey, Algeria or Morocco from Israel. In which case why bother ?

Palestine and Lebanon will be much better if there is no aggression repeatedly done by Hamas and Hesbullah. It is actually West Bank whose land get stolen gradually.

See what happen after Indonesian troops put on Southern Lebanon, peaceful for decade in Lebanon.

Best solution is two state solution

If Muslim nations get much powerful, Saudi influence getting lower due to decline of the importance of oil, so we can possibly force Egypt to open Rafah border and Muslim troops should enter Gaza. No one dare to kill any Palestinian in Gaza if united Muslim troops are in Gaza. Hopefully Egypt can open Rafah border without being forced/ under pressured from OIC, but unlikely to happen under current regime.

Muslim troops should also enter West Bank from Jordan and protect West Banks from Israeli settlers and troops. Israel will not dare to do land grabbing or doing some sort of aggression if that is the case, we can see what happen in Lebanon after Indonesian troops enter Lebanon and put on the border between Lebanon and Israel.

I believe international community and UN will be agree on that idea. Just dont attack each other, try to live side by side in harmony

As I said, the problem is in ourselves (within Muslim). There is unlikely any discussion within OIC to put troops since Egypt doesnt want to see Rafah border open or let alone giving Muslim troops access. Once Muslim troops enter Gaza, it also should control Gaza since Hamas is one of the trouble maker, if Hamas doesnt want to be controlled then it cannot be realized as well. Also Jordan doesnt want to let Muslim troops enter their side to West Bank either as they want to keep their deal with Israel. Both Egypt and Jordan are supported by Saudi, so I speculate that growing Muslim nations power in the future, combined with less influence Saudi due to decline in oil based economy, could possibly make some thing that is impossible to do now to be possible in the future. Despite so, there is also chance that Saudi will not against the idea.

The main thing is that we are not going to attack Israel, we just want to see peace and status quo being reserved and maintained. Muslim troops should be powerful enough to control Hamas if that is the case.

 

[fitpOsitive]

If Muslims had a unified military force, no one would be able to oppress them anywhere.

Just like Europe has NATO.

Whether it be Palestine or Kashmir. But the countries are too weak and US prevents any such possibility.

Islamic coalition forces are the need of the hour.

The issue is USA.
Israel can be wiped out in 5 days in the exiting capacity of Muslim countries. Even NATO will not be able to do anything.

 

[Nothing]

Palestine and Lebanon will be much better if there is no aggression repeatedly done by Hamas and Hesbullah. It is actually West Bank whose land get stolen gradually.

See what happen after Indonesian troops put on Southern Lebanon, peaceful for decade in Lebanon.

Best solution is two state solution

If Muslim nations get much powerful, Saudi influence getting lower due to decline of the importance of oil, so we can possibly force Egypt to open Rafah border and Muslim troops should enter Gaza. No one dare to kill any Palestinian in Gaza if united Muslim troops are in Gaza. Hopefully Egypt can open Rafah border without being forced/ under pressured from OIC, but unlikely to happen under current regime.

Muslim troops should also enter West Bank from Jordan and protect West Banks from Israeli settlers and troops. Israel will not dare to do land grabbing or doing some sort of aggression if that is the case, we can see what happen in Lebanon after Indonesian troops enter Lebanon and put on the border between Lebanon and Israel.

I believe international community and UN will be agree on that idea. Just dont attack each other, try to live side by side in harmony

As I said, the problem is in ourselves (within Muslim). There is unlikely any discussion within OIC to put troops since Egypt doesnt want to see Rafah border open or let alone giving Muslim troops access. Once Muslim troops enter Gaza, it also should control Gaza since Hamas is one of the trouble maker, if Hamas doesnt want to be controlled then it cannot be realized as well. Also Jordan doesnt want to let Muslim troops enter their side to West Bank either as they want to keep their deal with Israel.

I like way you are thinking. It in today’s polarized world sane voices are muffled. Hamas is not a holy cow as well. They have killed and oppressed their political opponents in Gaza. Their leadership is also corrupt and gain strength from radicalization of population. Despite having low resources they have one of highest birth rate in region. We all know when it comes to leadership in any country or territory, most of time leaders don’t act for interest of general public but for their power. In doing that sometimes public welfare becomes side effect. I was hoping once Saudi and other Middle East nations recognized Israel, there will be better cooperation which will push Israel to behave and start thinking about 2 nations idea. Sometimes you can get things done as friend than enemy. I don’t favor any sort of violence. Sometimes one has to let their ego rest for betterment of humanity. Israel was going through once is generation political reform. Right wing government were in the corner. There was no reason to provoke them.

 

[VkdIndian]

Saar, the shameful thing is creating a fake X account to appreciate oneself in the guise of Israeli Mossad.

Actually, it is also shameful to find a random tweet on X and associate it with an entire nation.

The way some trolls are doing against India by creating threads about Indian support etc.

This thread is as much a troll thread as many other created against Indians. Each one, more cringy than the other one.

This thread is also a mirror to pseudo Islamists who cry big river only at selected places or conflicts. And Paksiatn is one nation that should hang it’s head and keep quite over any conflict against Muslims anywhere in the world.

Look at their own history, that includes Op searchlight in Bangladesh. Naming just one. There are many more.

 

[Strigon]

Actually, it is also shameful to find a random tweet on X and associate it with an entire nation.

The way some trolls are doing against India by creating threads about Indian support etc.

This thread is as much a troll thread as many other created against Indians. Each one, more cringy than the other one.

It’s is a troll feast out there. Just enjoy.

But Saaar, it’s exactly the sentiments of Indian people as a whole…

I remember very well when Ukraine invasion started. The trapped Indian students who tried to cross border were treated like shit, because they didn’t have fair skin or blue eyes. Yet Indian “Full support Saar” was the theme while they Poland/ Ukraine citizens would ON VIDEO spit on those Indian people.

Here, the same scenario just different country. Indians are hopelessly cringe when it comes to offering support.

But you don’t see the same enthusiasm towards Arabs, many of which countries india has a lot of trade, alliance with. Reason, the obsession and worshipping of fair skin. Something that is not only taught to them since childhood but also encouraged to bring in their life with skin whitening creams.

It’s the same thing many Cuban/ Latin Americans do, they vote against their own interests for republican candidates because it makes them feel more “white”.

 

[VkdIndian]

Here, the same scenario just different country. Indians are hopelessly cringe when it comes to offering support.

You are getting swayed by cringeworthy tweets shared by some people? Anyone can find such posts on social media against anyone. Question is to not loose sanity and start believing each one of those tweets.

Someone touting those tweets as truth and nothing else, is most likely a stupid fool.

But you don’t see the same enthusiasm towards Arabs, many of which countries india has a lot of trade, alliance with.

This thread is about ghariyali tears of Paksiatni‘s at other places while keeping quite at few others.

The trapped Indian students who tried to cross border were treated like shit

Not Paksiatni’s? They were treated like normal people?

 

[Strigon]

You are getting swayed by cringeworthy tweeys shared by some people? Anyone can find such posts on social media against anyone. Question is to not loose sanity and start believing each one of those tweets.

Someone touting those tweets as truth and nothing else, is most likely a stupid fool.

This thread is about ghariyali tears of Paksiatni‘s at other places while keeping quite at few others.

Not Paksiatni’s? They were treated like normal people?

Say whatever you want about Pakistan, I already know they have their own set of problems and it doesn't affect me.

But don't downplay your "Full shuper duper shupport" now, Saaaar!

Indian obsession is based first on skin color and then who's d!ck sucking will yield more military gear. The Indian hypocrisy Iranians must be feeling these days, its something to be put in a book titled "India, the Full Support Saaar dilemma".... Full support Saar when its Iran vs Pakistan.....and fck Iran when its Iran vs Israel. wtf lol

 

[VkdIndian]

Say whatever you want about Pakistan, I already know they have their own set of problems and it doesn't affect me.

That could be a convenient line to take. Many opportunists do the same.
Jab waqt ho to ghariyaali aansu baha do aur baki time justification de do.

But don't downplay your "Full shuper duper shupport" now, Saaaar!

You think this comment makes any difference to anyone? I know that a lot of you are elated by making such comments. Self pleasuring is probably the only solace for some of you.

Indian obsession is based first on skin color and then who's d!ck sucking will yield more military gear. The Indian hypocrisy Iranians must be feeling these days, it’s something to be put in a book titled "India, the Full Support Saaar dilemma".... Full support Saar when it’s Iran vs Pakistan.....and fck Iran when it’s Iran vs Israel. wtf lol

Indian foreign policy is something that Pakistan can’t even hold a candle too. You are very angry at it. It’s visible from anger shown by you in your comment. That shows the success of our policies.

- OIC countries today ignore Paksiatn while our PM is accorded their highest national honour.

- Remember, your entire country awaited a stopover by a prince on his visit to India.

- Did your country get the telephone call from the US president? Most awaited call in the history of mankind?

Just few instances to show you, what status India has.

But you are happy by quoting ‘phoool support”. Be happy.

 

[Hero786]

Isn't it disheartening that these nations only show lip service on international venues and platforms when Palestinians are being killed while they are at war rather than actually assisting them?

Can they only offer LIP services?

Can they go against the United States and Israel?

Will they do anything for Palestinians, or will they just cry like crocodiles in the end?

This is their chance to demonstrate their concern for Palestine, and if they are unable to, they should stop producing such dramas in the future.

They need support, as the same way Ukrainians are getting from other countries

They only speak due to their "VOTE BANK" and fool public for vote.

If you look India, Modi is doing same by using Hinduism in politics.
In Pakistan religious, non religious political parties dragging same, religion in politics.
Erdogn of Turkey does same.

Why Pakistan, Turkey, Bangaldesh fight with Israel, when Israel not violated their sovereignty?

Its better Arab coutries should fight for Palestine, instead non Arab countries.

It does not matter, how much Pakistani Muslims or other countries Muslims show love for Palestine, None of their militaries going to fight with Israel.

Other secondary reason is, Muslims not rich and even not powerful, if we look at Pakistan, Pakistan have nukes but not rich country, Saudis have money but they are not powerful and have even weak military inspite of their huge military budget. Turkey is NATO member, so Turkey will only follow orders of NATO. Iran is not powerful and have weak economy due to US sanctions. If they go for war with Israel, they will loose war in days, no need US or NATO. In 70s Arabs fought with Israel but lost the war in few days.

If you talk with any Arab Muslim especially Saudis, they will declare all non Arab Muslims "Hindus", This situation facing Pakistanis from long. I am not saying Pakistanis are not working in Saudis, UAE and other Arab countries. But Arabs are proud, wild and ignorent.

Pakistani military is for defence of Pakistan, not for others.

If Pakistan ask Arabs to send militaries to fight with India, no one country will agree, it does not matter India is strong or weak. They will not agree to fight for Pakistan or Muslims.
So, why will Pakistan fight for them? For Aqsa Mosque? Even Muslims main religious place is Makah. This is just a war of land but politicians colored it with religion, same is for Christians and Jews.

Some people always spread bullsh!t that Pakistan participated in Arab war with Israel and in Black September. Pakistanis always support Arabs but in military training or limited export of weapons like other countries, as Arabs main suppliers are US, China and Russia.

 

[itsanufy]

Hindus.

LOL, hindus always hated Muslims. In the past hindus tried to keep arabs happy with their lip service. Hindus with suck everything white...

Colonial setters are innocent people? lol. Israel can kill Palestinian civilians and journalists without any global condemnation but when Palestinians do the same they're the terrorists? wow.

Like crusader states isreal is getting support from every western countries since Balfour declaration. That's why it is surviving. Except Muslims nobody supported or will support Palestine.

Two wrong can't make a thing right.
India on official stand still recognize Palestine.

 

[VkdIndian]

Israel can be wiped out in 5 days in the exiting capacity of Muslim countries. Even NATO will not be able to do anything.

That’s geopolitics. And reality.

There have been many such ifs and buts in the history. And would continue to be so.

A complete and unified Islamic world is unlikely. There are too many differences and fissures within them to make it possible.

 

[fitpOsitive]

That’s geopolitics. And reality.

There have been many such ifs and buts in the history. And would continue to be so.

A complete and unified Islamic world is unlikely. There are too many differences and fissures within them to make it possible.

We are weak, and that's the only thing that doesn't let us act together.
Everyone wants to save his bread. But as oil dependency will go down, Israel will be left orphan.

 

[VkdIndian]

We are weak, and that's the only thing that doesn't let us act together.
Everyone wants to save his bread. But as oil dependency will go down, Israel will be left orphan.

We don’t know, which way the world would sway once alternate sources of energy are implemented.

World order has never remained same for more than few 100 years.