Shall India help USA to topple China or maintain a subtle balance between them?

[DesiGuy1403]

Azhar is the same spiritual leader just like Dalai Lama.

WOW..
What next??

 

[Djinn]

India like China follows a path of self interest we work with all countries for the interest of our people and economy.

Let's see if that is true and India doesn't wind up being used as a pawn by USA to counter check China.

 

[Anazvara]

He seduced monks in Tibet to burn them self, that's arson. And the 2008 Lasa turmoil was under his command.

FAIL.

Arson - The crime of intentionally, deliberately and maliciously setting fire to buildings, wildland areas, dumpsters, vehicles or other property with the intent to cause damage.

Political protest might be a "crime" in China & North Korea, its not so in the rest of the world. Not even in pakistan.

WOW..
What next??

Next is we continue to act in our best interest. This conversation with a chinese should have given you an ideal about the direction of our next action

 

[帅的一匹]

Read this, is this your idea of a spiritual leader ?

How close is dalai lama to these activities ?

Masood Azhar (Urdu: محمد مسعود اظہر) is the founder and leader of the militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed, a militant group based mainly in the Pakistan-administered portion of the state of Kashmir. Pakistani authorities detained him after the Pathankot attack in India.

In August 1993 Azhar entered the UK for a speaking, fundraising, and recruitment tour. His message of jihad was given at some of Britain's most prestigious Islamic institutions including the Darul Uloom Bury seminary, Zakariya Mosque, Madina Masjid in Blackburn and Burnley, and Jamia Masjid. HIs message was that "substantial proportion of the Koran had been devoted to 'killing for the sake of Allah' and that a substantial volume of sayings of the Prophet Muhammad were on the issue of jihad." Azhar made contacts in Britain who helped to provide training and logistical support the terror plots including "7/7, 21/7 and the attempt in 2006 to smuggle liquid bomb-making substances on to transatlantic airlines."


In December 1999, he was freed by the Indian government in exchange for passengers on the hijacked Indian Airlines Flight 814 (IC814) that had eventually landed in Kandahar, Afghanistan, which at the time the Taliban controlled.The hijackers of IC 814 were led by Masood Azhar's brother, Ibrahim Athar. Once Masood Azhar was handed over to the hijackers in Kandhar, they fled to Pakistani territory. Pakistan had said the hijackers would be arrested if found, a difficult task given the length of the border and multitude of access points from Afghanistan. The Pakistani government also previously indicated that Azhar would be allowed to return home since he did not face any charges there.

If Pakistan government had put him under arrest, he can't do anythings to harm you now.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Dalai Lama is our concern as well.

You have to wait till the old man have his final natural breath. If you cannot stop pricking India by then, then China is nothing but irritating India. Maintain the status quo.

 

[帅的一匹]

You have to wait till the old man have his final natural breath. If you cannot stop pricking India by then, then China is nothing but irritating India. Maintain the status quo.

Dalai Lama is 80 years old , but India dharmsala will still be an anti China base for those Tibet exile.

 

[911]

There are question marks on India US security pacts, which tells you India is not comfortable with US, never been in history.

Man, if you'll watch at game, India is playing at a swinger state. We have border disputes with China and their partnership with pakistan, vetoing our resolutions
but China is our largest trade partner as well.
US has a habit of creating hurdles in our path, express their "concerns" on our SLBM(India is going to test an HGV like Wu-14 soon), their lobbies try to ban our companies and they are financial supporters of our enemies but we need some tech to get a shortcut (like China reverse engineered Soviet tech).

But look at us, we are neither capable of countering USA nor China.
So, we played it swing.
Let's have friendship with both if can't tackle them.
We are signing LEMoA with US to access to each other's bases but modified the agreement that US can't come here without Indian invitation(clarification of Chinese concerns) and established a hotline with China.
And unfortunately, we have no choice except to play it both sides.
When India will be a mature force like Yankee or chinky , only then, it will choose a definite path. Till then, let's play duplicity.

From my personal opinion:
I hate Western people and loved China for cultural ties with them. But my entire love was screwed up when China vetoed resolution against terrorist Masoud Azhar and his group.
You know, I'm one of those unlucky guys who have lost their loved ones in terror attacks.

I personaly believe China genuinely wants peace between India and Pakistan. US on the other hand flames hatred, covertly supports extremism in Pakistan which are trained for attacks in Pakistan as well as in India (not sure if ISI is invovled or not but because they are paranoid and hate India because they feel victims, they may be, and its also possible if ISI has double agents which work with US but less likely). Its my perspective, people under different situations have different perspectives. So China vetoed maybe because it wants India and Pakistan to trust each other more?

 

[Anazvara]

There are question marks on India US security pacts, which tells you India is not comfortable with US, never been in history.

I personaly believe China genuinely wants peace between India and Pakistan. US on the other hand flames hatred, covertly supports extremism in Pakistan which are trained for attacks in Pakistan as well as in India (not sure if ISI is invovled or not but because they are paranoid and hate India because they feel victims, they may be, and its also possible if ISI has double agents which work with US but less likely). Its my perspective, people under different situations have different perspectives. So China vetoed maybe because it wants India and Pakistan to trust each other more?

LOL..... is that why they gave nukes to pakistan ? so that they can sit under the nuclear umbrella and send terrorists into India ?

 

[Bad Guy]

There are question marks on India US security pacts, which tells you India is not comfortable with US, never been in history.

US wants India to be a permanent ally of west. India resists.
They want us to tackle China but fear is that what will happen to after that? They may not make us another Japan. They don't want China to rise, you think they'll let us rise.

I personaly believe China genuinely wants peace between India and Pakistan. US on the other hand flames hatred, covertly supports extremism in Pakistan which are trained for attacks in Pakistan as well as in India (not sure if ISI is invovled or not but because they are paranoid and hate India because they feel victims, they may be, and its also possible if ISI has double agents which work with US but less likely). Its my perspective, people under different situations have different perspectives. So China vetoed maybe because it wants India and Pakistan to trust each other more?

Come out of brotherhood mindset. China has created a string of pearls around India.
Mentality of China is same as that of USA. It also won't let other rise. They vetoed resolution to play down Indian status against Pakistan.
Plus they want India to remain busy in South Asia only.
Yes, they become friendly sometimes.
For SCS, they want us to remain neutral. NATO(USA+ Europe) and Communist Power Block (Russia and China) balance each other's power. among all substantial military powers in world, it's India who remains away.
India carries enough wait to boom up any side in which it will play.
It will surely play up on NATO side because our all interests are crossing China's if talk of SCS dispute. So, they want us to be neutral.

 

[zebra7]

Dalai Lama is 80 years old , but India dharmsala will still be an anti China base for those Tibet exile.

Wanglaokan You are Great, who is comparing Dalai Lama and Azhar Masood.

My Vote goes for you for the biggest Comedian of the Year.

 

[Anazvara]

US wants India to be a permanent ally of west. India resists.
They want us to tackle China but fear is that what will happen to after that? They may not make us another Japan. They don't want China to rise, you think they'll let us rise.

US encouraged and allowed the rise of China to contain Russia, today they want to encourage and allow the rise of India to contain China.

We should welcome the US initiative whole heartedly the same way the Chinese welcomed the US initiative 20 years back.

Don't let paranoia be your guide, let it be your guard.

 

[帅的一匹]

US encouraged and allowed the rise of China to contain Russia, today they want to encourage and allow the rise of India to contain China.

We should welcome the US initiative whole heartedly the same way the Chinese welcomed the US initiative 20 years back.

Don't let paranoia be your guide, let it be your guard.

USA allow China to rise? Tell me how the fck the Tian an men square event happened? All the thugs of the rebel flee to USA after it. You will pay being with USA. It just used China as a leverage against Soviet, that's all.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

True. Its the shorter transition time that determines success. The shorter the time, the more successful you are.

Excuses and failures are best friends.

And now you know why.

1. Nehru-Gandhis are responsible for India lagging much of East Asia
2. Nehru-Gandhis deliberately kept India backward in order to nurture a poor and ignorant vote bank
3. Between them, Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi, who ruled India for 37 of its first 42 years of Independence, presided over one of Asia’s great economic flops.
4. Neither of post-1991India’s reform heroes – P V Narasimha Rao and Atal Bihari Vajpayee – belonged to the dynasty.
5. Economic pillars of the Nehruvian project were: mistrust of trade, contempt for the profit motive, and faith in state planning rather than in the invisible hand of the market.
6. Nehru’s flawed ideas – in particular his infatuation with Soviet-style planning – ended up doing India grave harm.
   
7. In 1966, the year Gandhi took power, the average Indian earned about fourfifths as much as the average Indonesian and about half as much as the average South Korean.
8. By 1990, on the eve of the balance of payments crisis that forced India to reform, the average Indian earned only half as much as an Indonesian and less than one-sixth as much as a South Korean. More than half of India’s then 870 million people lived on less than the World Bank’s current estimate for extreme poverty of $1.90 a day.
   
9. So yes, the dynastic politics has helped keep India poor.

But they are excuses for some... especially like you.

But we finally got rid of Gandhis.... and now e are picking up pace... and you will see how things change.

 

[Kompromat]

India can't topple China, no one can.

 

[帅的一匹]

Wanglaokan You are Great, who is comparing Dalai Lama and Azhar Masood.

My Vote goes for you for the biggest Comedian of the Year.

It is not because Dalai Lama is a Dharmic leader make him a good person. Double standard.