Shabqadar: 87 killed, dozen injured in twin explosions

[Ahmad]

These Generals don't care .... we need to end this war rite now ... TODAY ...

what were the primary reasons Pakistan joined WOT in the first place?

 

[pak-marine]

very sad.... May the dead RIP, its a big loss for us

 

[T-Faz]

This is very sad but expected.

I can understand the point of views being expressed and all sides are to blame here.

These terrorists are a joint American-Pakistani creation for a shortsighted goal of defeating the Soviets.

Now what has happened, has happened, it was time to eradicate the terrorists once and for all ten years ago but the way some Pakistani's have supported terrorists, the job has become much more difficult.

The American population sees Pakistan as a nation that hides and aides terrorists while the fact is that only a small percent approve of Al Qaeda's and Osama's actions.

The biggest humiliation for Pakistan is that Osama was indeed in this nation and I am damn sure that he has support amongst our security establishment.

We cannot end the WOT in days or seconds because terrorists will continue to attack this nation, they have before and they will again.

The best way forward is to completely crush these terrorists, either with the west or by ourselves if we can do so.

There should not be any complicity or good/bad taliban policy, all our concentration should be to eradicate all those militants who have threatened the state.

Similarly, all the terrorists sympathizers must be caught and prosecuted.

There has to be separation of state and religion if the aim is to end the use of violent Islam.

 

[Perceptron]

This is very sad but expected.

I can understand the point of views being expressed and all sides are to blame here.

These terrorists are a joint American-Pakistani creation for a shortsighted goal of defeating the Soviets.

Now what has happened, has happened, it was time to eradicate the terrorists once and for all ten years ago but the way some Pakistani's have supported terrorists, the job has become much more difficult.

The American population sees Pakistan as a nation that hides and aides terrorists while the fact is that only a small percent approve of Al Qaeda's and Osama's actions.

The biggest humiliation for Pakistan is that Osama was indeed in this nation and I am damn sure that he has support amongst our security establishment.

We cannot end the WOT in days or seconds because terrorists will continue to attack this nation, they have before and they will again.

The best way forward is to completely crush these terrorists, either with the west or by ourselves if we can do so.

There should not be any complicity or good/bad taliban policy, all our concentration should be to eradicate all those militants who have threatened the state.

Similarly, all the terrorists sympathizers must be caught and prosecuted.

There has to be separation of state and religion if the aim is to end the use of violent Islam.

I see the pain in your statements that brings forth a honest attempt for Pakistan to leave behind the baggage of history and move forward in a way that can bring peace and stability to the entire region ; I sincerely do. If all Pakistanis think like you have just felt, i am sure India will also take that extra step forward, and South Asia would be the juggernaut of World Prosperity leaving Europe behind in a trice.

 

[Durran3]

These Jihadist Islamists need to rot and burn under an artillery cannon.

I see the pain in your statements that brings forth a honest attempt for Pakistan to leave behind the baggage of history and move forward in a way that can bring peace and stability to the entire region ; I sincerely do.

Pakistan will NEVER move forward if it continues to use Pakistan ka Matlab kiya mentality. Who cares Pakistan ka matlab kiya.. what we care about is having a progressive Pakistan that evolves and moves in the 21st century with the rest of the world. A Nation that makes rational and logical laws, based on trial and error. Laws that are not made on the basis of religion but on the basis of whats good for humans in general and what is accepted universally in the world and learn from nations which posses progressive and modern societies

 

[tallboy123]

RIP to the dead

 

[Bang Galore]

This is what happens when US chooses to interfere in Pakistan's affairs. Leave Pakistan alone & let it deal with its own affairs. If the US conducts more drone strikes over wider areas, you can expect to see more stuff like this happening. On the other hand, this TTP has shown virtually no distinction from the AQ, & I am sure they are infested in Pakistan's Bajaur & Mohmand agency; & they get their refuge in Kunar, Afghanistan. They said they wanted to avenge the death of OBL, I find that a bit strange, considering most Pakistanis didn't support him.

I'm choosing your post to make a wider point. Like many here, you seem to believe that if Pakistan stopped fighting the militants/terrorists, everything would become okay. How exactly? Where will all these guys go? To live a peaceful existence for the rest of their days? Not about to happen. These chaps will attack Afghan/American forces if they owe allegiance primarily to the Afghan war or try & impose their narrow views on those people of Pakistan unfortunate enough to be in their area of operation. Attacking Americans would only result in further territorial intrusions into Pakistan, either by drones or by personnel. Many here want America to go so that these killers can turn their attention on Afghans & leave Pakistanis alone. Won't happen; they will kill Afghans & will kill Pakistanis too. They are simply not amenable to reason. Any illusions on that score are likely to be short lived. These guys have their vision of how they want Pakistan & the world to be & you can be reasonably sure that it isn't anything like your preferences. Any idea of making compromises will just not work because all that will happen is that the compromise will be accepted only as a starting point to the completion of their goals. Pakistan society is slowly becoming more right wing & hardline religiously simply because the space in the centre is slowly being squeezed out. The whole centre of gravity is slowly being shifted. What was unacceptable & crazy will slowly be considered moderate & centrist and the new unacceptable will be the presently unimaginable & horrifying.

This was always your war. You should have fought it years ago & not waited till you were dragged kicking & screaming by the U.S. into fighting it.

 

[desioptimist]

This is what happens when US chooses to interfere in Pakistan's affairs. Leave Pakistan alone & let it deal with its own affairs. If the US conducts more drone strikes over wider areas, you can expect to see more stuff like this happening. On the other hand, this TTP has shown virtually no distinction from the AQ, & I am sure they are infested in Pakistan's Bajaur & Mohmand agency; & they get their refuge in Kunar, Afghanistan. They said they wanted to avenge the death of OBL, I find that a bit strange, considering most Pakistanis didn't support him.

What you mean is let US leave, PA will strike a deal with terrorists, stop chasing them them and reorient them toward where they should be working.

 

[W.11]

This was always your war. You should have fought it years ago & not waited till you were dragged kicking & screaming by the U.S. into fighting it.

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seriously man, india needs some war in its land to understand the meaning of destruction, didnt you guys learnt anythink from samjhota express, mumbai attacks kargil etc??, do you even care about that??, you guys sitting infront of computer must immediately be sent to the army barracks to realize the meaning of war, indians and americans dont care about the word because they are not seeing one, the sooner you get it the better

till americans began their war, we had no war, no killings, why would we create war and kill people, is it what your hinduism teaches?? to kill innocent people and war??, yeah right that book, maha bharat

 

[W.11]

These Jihadist Islamists need to rot and burn under an artillery cannon.



Pakistan will NEVER move forward if it continues to use Pakistan ka Matlab kiya mentality. Who cares Pakistan ka matlab kiya.. what we care about is having a progressive Pakistan that evolves and moves in the 21st century with the rest of the world. A Nation that makes rational and logical laws, based on trial and error. Laws that are not made on the basis of religion but on the basis of whats good for humans in general and what is accepted universally in the world and learn from nations which posses progressive and modern societies

why dont you pray that musharraf goes to hell, he started all this to begin with

 

[desioptimist]

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seriously man, india needs some war in its land to understand the meaning of destruction, didnt you guys learnt anythink from samjhota express, mumbai attacks kargil etc??, do you even care about that??, you guys sitting infront of computer must immediately be sent to the army barracks to realize the meaning of war, indians and americans dont care about the word because they are not seeing one, the sooner you get it the better

Are you seriously suggesting that not doing anything against terrorist organizations is an alternative to this bloodshed.
You cant stop it by just doing nothing.
We learnt a lot from blasts here that is why we try to augment our capability and go after the perpetrators rather than wish that they are not present.

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

what were the primary reasons Pakistan joined WOT in the first place?

They never joined it of their own free-will , they were coerced and forced into it by Americans . Even now they believe if the U.S just leaves the region they can somehow strike deals with these extremists and use the ISI to keep them in check .


This kind of thinking is doomed from the start.

 

[W.11]

Are you seriously suggesting that not doing anything against terrorist organizations is an alternative to this bloodshed.
You cant stop it by just doing nothing.
We learnt a lot from blasts here that is why we try to augment our capability and go after the perpetrators rather than wish that they are not present.

america is the biggest terrorist, to eliminate small terrorism, you need to eliminate bigger terrorist

blast is done by cia

 

[kingkobra]

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seriously man, india needs some war in its land to understand the meaning of destruction, didnt you guys learnt anythink from samjhota express, mumbai attacks kargil etc??, do you even care about that??, you guys sitting infront of computer must immediately be sent to the army barracks to realize the meaning of war, indians and americans dont care about the word because they are not seeing one, the sooner you get it the better

till americans began their war, we had no war, no killings, why would we create war and kill people, is it what your hinduism teaches?? to kill innocent people and war??, yeah right that book, maha bharat

what the hell is that??

 

[Bang Galore]

Are you seriously suggesting that not doing anything against terrorist organizations is an alternative to this bloodshed.
You cant stop it by just doing nothing.
We learnt a lot from blasts here that is why we try to augment our capability and go after the perpetrators rather than wish that they are not present.

For a proudly "Martial" people, the urge to surrender comes fairly quickly to quite a few of them.