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Sell-off in India's Adani deepens to $50 billion

That is the difference between the Credibility of "Hindenburg" and Adani.
It's not about credibility of Hindenburg because they have not claimed that they are doing any expose for lofty ideals. They are a for-profit short seller and probably achieved their target with the 20% crash in the share price. That is what they do for a living.

If you believe it to be a scam, then don't invest.
When did I say that the company is a scam? I have known about Adani group for a very long time as I have lived in Gujarat. I don't consider them to be a scam company at all.

Airports Authority of India (AAI) manages a total of 137 Airports, which includes 103 Domestic Airports, 24 International Airports, and 10 Customs Airports.

Adani operate 8.

Now put aside your prejudice and tell me RATIONALLY, Where do you see the actual RISK ?
There is no prejudice. I would have said the same thing if the airports were awarded to Tata, GMR, Reliance or anyone for that matter. The thing with risk is that we do not know what will happen. Did we foresee Covid? Did anyone foresee 9/11 and the dotcom bust? Did anyone foresee the subprime crisis? AAI did not have 137 airports falling in its lap all of a sudden. They expanded organically.

Do you know that airport projects have a revenue share? Do you know that GMR was sharing 46% of its revenues (Yes, revenues, not profits) with GOI as part of its obligations under the Joint Development Agreement. This sole project made their lives so miserable that they had to exit from many other infrastructure projects. Parting with topline, and yet having to meet the exact same expenses from Day 1 of a Brownfield project is extremely taxing for a PPP project. Add to it the debt servicing for an expansion which has not even started generating revenue yet. Now multiply that problem 8 fold.

You guys seem to be getting the impression that I have some axe to grind against Adani. I don't. I want them to succeed for the sake of India because they are one of the few people investing in large infra projects.
 
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There is no prejudice. I would have said the same thing if the airports were awarded to Tata, GMR, Reliance or anyone for that matter. The thing with risk is that we do not know what will happen. Did we foresee Covid? Did anyone foresee 9/11 and the dotcom bust? Did anyone foresee the subprime crisis? AAI did not have 137 airports falling in its lap all of a sudden. They expanded organically.

Do you know that airport projects have a revenue share? Do you know that GMR was sharing 46% of its revenues (Yes, revenues, not profits) with GOI as part of its obligations under the Joint Development Agreement. This sole project made their lives so miserable that they had to exit from many other infrastructure projects. Parting with topline, and yet having to meet the exact same expenses from Day 1 of a Brownfield project is extremely taxing for a PPP project. Add to it the debt servicing for an expansion which has not even started generating revenue yet. Now multiply that problem 8 fold.

You guys seem to be getting the impression that I have some axe to grind against Adani. I don't. I want them to succeed for the sake of India because they are one of the few people investing in large infra projects.

No I don't think of you as anti Adani, but your Risk assessment is not correct. Force Majeure is not considered Risk. More Operational efficiency and More Profitability reduces Risk. Private operators reduces risk.

Delhi International Airport Limited ( DIAL) is a joint venture, formed as a consortium between GMR Group (54%), Airports Authority of India (26%), and Fraport AG & Eraman Malaysia (10% each). Which is why it shares GMR shares 45.99 % revenue with it partners.

Adani operating 8 airports is not a novel idea. Vinci airports operate 65 airports. Mexican, Grupo Aeroportuario del Pacífico operate 14 airports.
AviAlliance and Atlantia operate 5 airports (maybe more). GMR operate 3 and has greater revenue share than Adani.
 
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Delhi International Airport Limited ( DIAL) is a joint venture, formed as a consortium between GMR Group (54%), Airports Authority of India (26%), and Fraport AG & Eraman Malaysia (10% each). Which is why it shares GMR shares 45.99 % revenue with it partners.

Correction - GMR shares 45.99% of DIAL's revenue with AAI as part of its obligation because that is what it quoted in the winning bid. It does not share it with its operating partners. That the share of operating partners is also 46% makes the two figures look identical and that is merely a coincidence. GVK shared 38.7% of the revenue with AAI and I am assuming Adani would have to continue honouring that. Revenue sharing is common in brownfield/expansion projects which are already generating revenue. Such as tolled 4 lane highways which are being expanded to 6 lane. Everyone knew GMR had quoted too much and it did come back to bite them.
 
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By this logic you will always have the same companies operating airports all the time. How is that any better? At the time of bidding you are supposed to demonstrate ability to execute infrastructure projects of a certain value, not necessarily airports.

In 2006 India did not have any capability to build or run large, efficient airports. We had to contend with Soviet style AAI ones. At that time it was felt necessary to have at least one partner in the consortium with 26% stake who was a previous airport operator. Hence GMR had Fraport and GVK had ACSA. These partners brought in the required technical score for the bid. They were allowed to exit after a certain number of years once the operations had stabilised, which they did.

Fast forward 10 years, we had no requirement for foreign expertise. We were experts at developing airports. Last I knew GMR developed airports in Phillippines, Turkey, Greece, Maldives among others.

Please understand that when an airport is taken over, most of the staff comes along with it. Only the stubborn babu types are dealt with strictly. Even that was the case in the initial era of PPP projects. Now all the airports have new blood and do not require disciplining. So when Adani acquired the airport from GVK, it acquired all the staff as well, who have deep experience of running an airport.

Anyway, I have mentioned in my earlier post that giving 8 airports to one entity is not good. GOI should have diversified. Companies with too much rapid exposure to new projects are at risk. I hope Adani sees the projects through otherwise we will have an endless saga of cost escalations, underhand deals and banks and retail investors left holding the lemon. There is too much stress in society already, we don't need to worry about our banks struggling.

it is okay if it happens in 1 sector. To have the same guy in charge of multiple critical sectors is asking for trouble. No one become super-rich building ports or airports
 
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True. Many such sectors require long gestation and investment risk that open market capital won't want to take on.

Or it could be - these guys cannot compete in the open market against competitive rivals on a level footing

I think the damage / correction has happened. Banks are not displaying any panic as of now. Adani has indulged in share price manipulation, but end of the day it is not a ponzi scheme. It has established businesses and revenue generating assets. My only concern is too many projects going on together so the cash flows will remain strained because of debt servicing. It doesn't help that most airport projects were awarded more or less at the same time and will be in the same stage in their cycle. Even when they open, it's not like a new car launch that suddenly many thousands of people buy it and you have a sudden cash inflow. Infra projects don't see growth like that. On the day that a new terminal opens, the traffic will still remain the same as the day before it.

which brings to the point what value is Adani really adding ? Take the airport as an example.
 
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A kangladeshi is having sleepless nights due to Adani. Seems he is more interested in Adani than the 3rd Largest Electronis company Baalton.

Without Indian doles, Kanglus were supposed to take Katora in hand and sit with the Momin brothers from the far West.

Listen Pujari - without Bangladeshi dole, your jobless idiots have nothing to eat.

We are richer than your bhangi ghatiya entity.

We are the 3rd/4th largest remittance source for India. Google it.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
 
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India stock exchange reputation is on stake with scam of this scale which should have been identified by local agencies instead of some foreign company who shorted Adani stock.
 
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LIC has clarified that they have .975% of their AUM in Adani related holdings and that too (even after the stock going down) is ~86% above its purchase price.

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SBI says Adani exposure well below RBI limit


The exposure of State Bank of India (SBI) to the Adani Group is well below the central bank's Large Exposure Framework, and is secured by cash-generating assets equipped with adequate escrow mechanisms that guarantee on-time debt servicing, a top executive at the country's biggest lender said


Meanwhile at the Stock Exchange,

Sensex rises 445 pts from day's low to end flat; Adani FPO fully subscribed


Adani FPO fully subscribed
On the final day, Adani Enterprises' follow-on-public offer (FPO) was fully subscribed, led by non-institutional investors (3.2x), qualified institutional buyers (1.2x), and retail investors (0.1x).


That is 2.5 Billion $ raised despite the "hindenburg report".

That is the difference between the Credibility of "Hindenburg" and Adani.
In all of this, it is the retail investors who were made fool.
Listen Pujari - without Bangladeshi dole, your jobless idiots have nothing to eat.

We are richer than your bhangi ghatiya entity.

We are the 3rd/4th largest remittance source for India. Google it.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Listen lungi.. you would starve without India's help. You are not richer than India. Your percapita income is actually less as IMF calculated your percapita with exchange rate of 86 to a dollar. We all know what it is today. Wait till April to get a slap on the face.
 
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In all of this, it is the retail investors who were made fool.

Listen lungi.. you would starve without India's help. You are not richer than India. Your percapita income is actually less as IMF calculated your percapita with exchange rate of 86 to a dollar. We all know what it is today. Wait till April to get a slap on the face.

Keep hoping dhoti, keep hoping.

Champagne wishes and caviar dreams......:rofl:

Keep on begging and building castles in the sky. More bad news below.

How the 'madoffs of Manhattan' can unravel Gautam Adani's empire​


Photo: Bloomberg
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Photo: Bloomberg

The bitter battle between the Adani Group and Hindenburg Research is heating up. In a rebuttal to Hindenburg's claim that Indian tycoon Gautam Adani has overseen the "largest con in corporate history," the company took on a dramatic tone, calling the New York-based research outfit the "Madoffs of Manhattan." The activist short-seller's report, Adani said, was a "calculated attack on India" and its "growth story and ambition."

Never mind that Hindenburg's founder Nathan Anderson had worked with Harry Markopolos, the analyst who uncovered Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme that robbed investors of as much as $65 billion. If anything, that puts Anderson in an anti-Madoff camp. Even as Hindenburg responded swiftly to Adani's rebuttal, saying it failed to answer "62 of our 88 questions," it is nonetheless worth pondering what the short seller might focus on next to win over investors' minds and money.

Despite its good reputation in New York's finance circles, the Hindenburg name by no means translates into automatic success in Asia. Other conglomerates, such as China's HNA Group and China Evergrande Group, had survived years of high-profile short sellers' attacks and failed only when the political wind turned against them.


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One of the research firm's major allegations is stock manipulation. According to Hindenburg, Adani insiders already own more than 75% of four publicly traded subsidiaries with the aid of offshore shell entities, thereby triggering delisting according to India's securities laws.

But that accusation alone is not enough to convince investors who are deciding what to do with their Adani holdings. For years, foreign investors had complained about Hong Kong-listed Evergrande's limited free float and concentrated ownership, which it made it difficult for them to short the developer's shares — to little avail. Evergrande only became distressed when Beijing's regulators cracked their whips, prompting domestic banks to stop lending to the builder.

As such, it will all depend on whether Hindenburg has enough global sway to shut down at least one of Adani's key borrowing channels. Industrial companies are capital-intensive. If they can't refinance, even good firms can go bad. Five of seven listed Adani companies have reported current ratios below 1, indicating they don't have enough liquid assets to cover their short-term liabilities. That means Adani's ability to refinance debt is all the more important.

On that front, Hindenburg might just have an outsized voice, in that about 30% of Adani's borrowings are denominated in foreign currencies. The group has more than $10 billion dollar bonds outstanding, with an investor base including global asset managers such as Lord Abbett & Co., BlackRock Inc. and Goldman Sachs Group, according to Bloomberg data.



As billionaire battles short-seller, 'IndiaStandsWithAdani' trends online

Already, a few dollar notes including debt of Adani Electricity Mumbai Ltd., a subsidiary with investment-grade rating, have fallen to distressed levels, indicating mounting markets concerns about Adani's creditworthiness. Hindenburg's report is renewing a bond rout which began in September after Fitch Group unit CreditSights published a report raising concerns over the group's leverage.

With Evergrande's spectacular fall still recent in their memory, global bond traders can be jittery. For instance, Adani Ports & Special Economic Zone Ltd., the group's biggest dollar-note issuer, is rated at BBB-, the lowest level of the investment grade. What if credit ratings agencies downgrade the company to junk, purely because of their belief that market selloffs can shut down financing options, as they've done to Chinese real estate developers? This fear alone could cause foreign bond buyers to flee.

So far, the Adani short is still largely an equity story. But as we've seen in China, spillovers into credit markets can be swift. One bad margin call on pledged shares, one credit rating downgrade, and everything unravels. Hindenburg still has some convincing to do.



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Shuli Ren is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering Asian markets. A former investment banker, she was a markets reporter for Barron's.
 
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Keep hoping dhoti, keep hoping.

Champagne wishes and caviar dreams......:rofl:

Keep on begging and building castles in the sky. More bad news below.

How the 'madoffs of Manhattan' can unravel Gautam Adani's empire​


Photo: Bloomberg
Photo: Bloomberg

Photo: Bloomberg

The bitter battle between the Adani Group and Hindenburg Research is heating up. In a rebuttal to Hindenburg's claim that Indian tycoon Gautam Adani has overseen the "largest con in corporate history," the company took on a dramatic tone, calling the New York-based research outfit the "Madoffs of Manhattan." The activist short-seller's report, Adani said, was a "calculated attack on India" and its "growth story and ambition."

Never mind that Hindenburg's founder Nathan Anderson had worked with Harry Markopolos, the analyst who uncovered Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme that robbed investors of as much as $65 billion. If anything, that puts Anderson in an anti-Madoff camp. Even as Hindenburg responded swiftly to Adani's rebuttal, saying it failed to answer "62 of our 88 questions," it is nonetheless worth pondering what the short seller might focus on next to win over investors' minds and money.

Despite its good reputation in New York's finance circles, the Hindenburg name by no means translates into automatic success in Asia. Other conglomerates, such as China's HNA Group and China Evergrande Group, had survived years of high-profile short sellers' attacks and failed only when the political wind turned against them.


395322244.png


One of the research firm's major allegations is stock manipulation. According to Hindenburg, Adani insiders already own more than 75% of four publicly traded subsidiaries with the aid of offshore shell entities, thereby triggering delisting according to India's securities laws.

But that accusation alone is not enough to convince investors who are deciding what to do with their Adani holdings. For years, foreign investors had complained about Hong Kong-listed Evergrande's limited free float and concentrated ownership, which it made it difficult for them to short the developer's shares — to little avail. Evergrande only became distressed when Beijing's regulators cracked their whips, prompting domestic banks to stop lending to the builder.

As such, it will all depend on whether Hindenburg has enough global sway to shut down at least one of Adani's key borrowing channels. Industrial companies are capital-intensive. If they can't refinance, even good firms can go bad. Five of seven listed Adani companies have reported current ratios below 1, indicating they don't have enough liquid assets to cover their short-term liabilities. That means Adani's ability to refinance debt is all the more important.

On that front, Hindenburg might just have an outsized voice, in that about 30% of Adani's borrowings are denominated in foreign currencies. The group has more than $10 billion dollar bonds outstanding, with an investor base including global asset managers such as Lord Abbett & Co., BlackRock Inc. and Goldman Sachs Group, according to Bloomberg data.



As billionaire battles short-seller, 'IndiaStandsWithAdani' trends online

Already, a few dollar notes including debt of Adani Electricity Mumbai Ltd., a subsidiary with investment-grade rating, have fallen to distressed levels, indicating mounting markets concerns about Adani's creditworthiness. Hindenburg's report is renewing a bond rout which began in September after Fitch Group unit CreditSights published a report raising concerns over the group's leverage.

With Evergrande's spectacular fall still recent in their memory, global bond traders can be jittery. For instance, Adani Ports & Special Economic Zone Ltd., the group's biggest dollar-note issuer, is rated at BBB-, the lowest level of the investment grade. What if credit ratings agencies downgrade the company to junk, purely because of their belief that market selloffs can shut down financing options, as they've done to Chinese real estate developers? This fear alone could cause foreign bond buyers to flee.

So far, the Adani short is still largely an equity story. But as we've seen in China, spillovers into credit markets can be swift. One bad margin call on pledged shares, one credit rating downgrade, and everything unravels. Hindenburg still has some convincing to do.



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Shuli Ren is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering Asian markets. A former investment banker, she was a markets reporter for Barron's.
Ah Bloomberg, no problem if you believe them. Adani will be fine. But Lungi, do you know the fall in Adani stocks is worth more than entire Dhaka stock exchange market cap. Imagine how puny DSE is. I admire your coping.

And you do know that Adani FPO is fully subscribed, right? It is the foreign institutional investor who bought most of it. If there were to go, it was the right time.

Imagine for a Lungi, who claims his country to be economic leader of South Asia, the embarrassment for having to go to IMF for a bailout and having stock market cap of less than $50 billion. Hope you guys learn to have some sense of shame.
 
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Airports Authority of India (AAI) manages a total of 137 Airports, which includes 103 Domestic Airports, 24 International Airports, and 10 Customs Airports.

Adani operate 8.

Let me guess the 8 ones Adani has the more lucrative ones that do not land him in political troubles
 
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Let me guess the 8 ones Adani has the more lucrative ones that do not land him in political troubles

The 8 Adani has are the one's AAI leased out under its Public Private Partnership (PPP) model for operation, management and development on a long-term lease basis.

The one he got by outbidding all other rivals (at least 11 others)

AAI plants to lease 25 Airports under the PPP model by 2025, so I expect Adani to bid on all of those too. That is how free market operates.

LOL at your butt hurt.
 
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The 8 Adani has are the one's AAI leased out under its Public Private Partnership (PPP) model for operation, management and development on a long-term lease basis.

The one he got by outbidding all other rivals (at least 11 others)

AAI plants to lease 25 Airports under the PPP model by 2025, so I expect Adani to bid on all of those too. That is how free market operates.

LOL at your butt hurt.
your country your rules :enjoy: :enjoy: :enjoy:
 
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hope my trading bros all shorted and are enjoying the maxx profits monies .. fuu yeaah ! 🤑 🥳
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