Scotland rejects independence,votes to stay with UK

[mike2000]

Montenegro did. South Sudan did. And lol and behold they were both yes because they were backed the the US.




It's not the votes that matter, it's who counts the votes that matter. No country will let go of territory without a war.

What are you talking about bro? You mean we rigged the elections? Lool. I can only say that's sour grapes. Nobody even in Scotland has complained about vote rigging. We are not some south Asian /third world country. Even Alex salmond ((who was the leader of the YES vote) has recognized /admitted defeat. And you are claiming the Vite was rigged. Lol

Anyway as I said, we have shown the world once again how a democracy should be/act. Not even democratic countries(like Japan, France, Spain and India etc) out there are willing to take the risk of giving their people a say /referendum for independence., much less autocratic countries like China/Russia. So chill I know you will never allow such a vote to take place (short of a war, like Taiwan ).

 

[cleverrider]

To quote you my dear, constantly confused poster:
''The real Majority, the English are not happy about this.''
Source: Scotland rejects independence,votes to stay with UK
Give it up matey, you're fighting a losing battle here.

The population of England is more than 50 Million. Demography of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The real majority – Mentioned in the previous post, in the post after I said to clarify my first post. The English are not happy about this because they didn’t get a say in this referendum and they are the majority in united kingdom.

One more personal attack and then I have to teach you a few things here - there.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The population of England is more than 50 Million. Demography of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The real majority – Mentioned in the previous post, in the post after I said to clarify my first post. The English are not happy about this because they didn’t get a say in this referendum and they are the majority in united kingdom.

One more personal attack and then I have to teach a few things here - there.

You said that the real majority are not happy about the results. I said that the majority within the real majority wanted a 'No' vote and they got it. This is what this entire argument is about and you've completely lost.

You even implied that majority of the English wanted a 'Yes' vote, but after the link I gave you, you quickly turned to arguing for the sake of arguing.

So give it up, give it a rest. You're sparring here and none of your shots are landing.

As for the part in bold. I don't wan't to get into that again, but you started, and if you start it, I will end it. Sticks and stones will break my bones...

 

[Indischer]

Scottish independence would've also strengthened the call of many Nations demanding a rejig of the UN Security Council. Germany, India and Brazil could've pressed the case for chucking out a severely weakened Britain that no longer had the clout to protect it's own unity.

Darn you Scots! Y U No Like Independence?

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkey si not considered a democracy. Unless Sultan erdogan seems like a de.ocratic leader to you. I do agree though that the Kurds are acting like terrorists. That doesnt mean they dont deserve their own state.

Democracy lessons from a Russian.

 

[cleverrider]

You said that the real majority are not happy about the results. I said that the majority within the real majority wanted a 'No' vote and they got it. This is what this entire argument is about and you've completely lost.

You even implied that majority of the English wanted a 'Yes' vote, but after the link I gave you, you quickly turned to arguing for the sake of arguing.

Forget about losing an argument, You have just lost yourself – Time to call it a night.

Second part - Never Go full R.....!

Night

 

[Jungibaaz]

Forget about losing an argument, You have just lost yourself – Time to call it a night.

Second part - Never Go full R.....!

Night

Look who just crossed the line. I thought I asked you nicely to take that 'kick me' sign off. You are just asking for it now.

Goodnight starshine.

 

[livingdead]

Well said, my friend. The sanctity of national solidarity cannot be emphasized enough. Best of Luck always to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

wtf is sanctity of national solidarity.. the nation is made by people like us.. is not holy or god given..there is no sanctity if huge number of people disagree..
UK politicians are brave and mature to allow the referendum.. the people are also mature enough to take a decision based on certain rational argument.(sure there was emotions too)
i hated the last minute bribing.. although am happy with the outcome..

 

[Aepsilons]

wtf is sanctity of national solidarity.. the nation is made by people like us.. is not holy or god given..there is no sanctity if huge number of people disagree..
UK politicians are brave and mature to allow the referendum.. the people are also mature enough to take a decision based on certain rational argument.(sure there was emotions too)
i hated the last minute bribing.. although am happy with the outcome..

Sanctity in national solidarity refers to the retention of a nation's territory. It is this very reason why the Republic of India retains its claim of Jammu and Kashmir, Ladakh region. This is the very reason why the Government of India will protect its North East provinces of Assam, Nagaland despite separatist forces that wish to secede from the Union of India.

The reason why it is considered a national imperative for British people to keep the Union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is parallel with the Union of India to keep all states in the Republic of India from breaking off from her. As much as some of our Indian colleagues here would be appalled at talks of the partitioning of the states that make up the Republic of India; the same goes with British nationals who cherish the union the 4 kingdoms in their own country.


Regards.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The voting started with -ve 1.5 Million votes deficit against the people who could have wanted independent Scotland

In reality the vote was in favor of Scotland , had it not for the almost 1.5 Million negative deficit created

 

[Luffy 500]

Why doesn't UK become a federation?

 

[livingdead]

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The voting started with -ve 1.5 Million votes deficit against the people who could have wanted independent Scotland

In reality the vote was in favor of Scotland , had it not for the almost 1.5 Million negative deficit created

most scots who live in England would have voted to be in UK.. they recognize the advantage more than the scots who live their whole life in scotland.
Check the scottish areas on England border too, where No > Yes by more than 15 percentage points.

Sanctity in national solidarity refers to the retention of a nation's territory. It is this very reason why the Republic of India retains its claim of Jammu and Kashmir, Ladakh region. This is the very reason why the Government of India will protect its North East provinces of Assam, Nagaland despite separatist forces that wish to secede from the Union of India.

The reason why it is considered a national imperative for British people to keep the Union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is parallel with the Union of India to keep all states in the Republic of India from breaking off from her. As much as some of our Indian colleagues here would be appalled at talks of the partitioning of the states that make up the Republic of India; the same goes with British nationals who cherish the union the 4 kingdoms in their own country.


Regards.

right, thats actually making a decision from position of power/authority and giving a new meaning by calling it holy.
For example I can be a dictator in a country and want everybody to dress like me, call it sanctity of national dress and prosecute violators.
I never implied scotland should be separate, but when you say sanctity of national border, it mean its already decided, for infinite time in future, and even if citizens want to change it, they cant.
The morally right way to decide, is to ask people (of the region which wants to go separate), which is what happened.
Most people voted No, and that settled the question for at least a generation.