Scorpene submarine: Indigenous AIP will increase endurance of the boats being built

[ruby007]

AIP? India can't even built engines for its warships like Kolkata, let alone AIP

And mighty chinese have developed one for themselves rights.... DSI kid AIP is already build and they're been tested from the begining of this year

 

[Skull and Bones]

Ahh.............can't really blame ya,good luck with your future married life.By the way,I hope you wouldn't mind if I ask,tomar gf ki Indian,naki................??

Na, half Italian, half American.

 

[ruby007]

China's 041 Yuan class subs which are extremely stealthy have Chinese built AIPs.

Yes the AIP is french , you copy cats copied the design and tech from the aip which is been placed in the pakistani subs..... don't try to blabber about chinese actually inventing something

 

[Omega007]

Na, half Italian, half American.

Damn!!Then,Indiate ferar kotha to bhulei jao bhai.

 

[ruby007]

China's 052D destroyers have Chinese built engines. India cannot build warship engiens.

Dumbo... you got the ToT from ukrain and later made some tweaks in it.. now that's called developing in china right??

 

[SR-91]

China's 052D destroyers have Chinese built engines. India cannot build warship engiens.

Oh the stolen engine tech from Germany!!!!!!!

I heard they cannot go beyond 200nm. Its hard to tow them back to junkyard, I meant shipyard.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Damn!!Then,Indiate ferar kotha to bhulei jao bhai.

I fear the same.

 

[Echo_419]

my point is exactly that

if owr design is not ready and owr navy is under pressure deu to shortage of subs with AIP then we should buy the best tech ASAP + in the meanwhile keep on developing the tech till its mature enof

(given a couple of subs could be made as test beds for the tech) but why keep dragging projects like scorpene just becuasde your "AIP tech" is not ready ?

but even if its ready why is it bieng delayed whoes responsibilty is that ?

so my humbe request is we should by the latest french or german feul cell tech and make up numbers while keep persuing R&D on owr indegenous designs but if we are not good enof why force the under devloped tech on owr subs which are facing threat from french AIP tech that PN has or what chinese are making on very large sacle we dont have that much time too keep fooling around

AIP can also be installed on the Sub's during third mid life upgrade

 

[Omega007]

I fear the same.

Nothing to fear really.............at least the way we Bongs are headed,you are better off in the good old Murica!!Just take your parents with you at some point of time,this is no place for good men..............not anymore.I'm not really proud or happy or even a little bit excited to tell these stuffs about my own state,but it has really gone to the dogs,seems like there is just no hope left in hell.
By the way,one last question,are you in the fb brother??

 

[Skull and Bones]

Nothing to fear really.............at least the way we Bongs are headed,you are better off in the good old Murica!!Just take your parents with you at some point of time,this is no place for good men..............not anymore.I'm not really proud or happy or even a little bit excited to tell these stuffs about my own state,but it has really gone to the dogs,seems like there is just no hope left in hell.
By the way,one last question,are you in the fb brother??

Yes, not much active though, but always on in messenger.

I'm from Siliguri, so I understand what you mean. I'm waiting for my residency, and then will call my mom here.

 

[Omega007]

Yes, not much active though, but always on in messenger.

Well,neither am I.I'm just adding my pdf friends in my fb.............I mean one never knows when one's gonna get a perma ban for some bat shit crazy reasons........not that they need one altogether.I hope you wouldn't mind me if I send my id to you.

I'm from Siliguri, so I understand what you mean. I'm waiting for my residency, and then will call my mom here.

I know you are from Siliguri,you told me once yourself,I joked by saying you are one of those fairer Bongs then, remember??
By the way,it's really good and also sad at the same time that you need to consider packing lock stock barrel forever.But then again,can't really blame ya.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Well,neither am I.I'm just adding my pdf friends in my fb.............I mean one never knows when one's gonna get a perma ban for some bat shit crazy reasons........not that they need one altogether.I hope you wouldn't mind me if I send my id to you.

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Come to this group, then I will add you. You understand why I can't share my profile here. I have many PDF members in my friend list though.

I know you are from Siliguri,you told me once yourself,I joked by saying you are one of those fairer Bongs then, remember??
By the way,it's really good and also sad at the same time that you need to consider packing lock stock barrel forever.But then again,can't really blame ya.

Lolwa! Nope, I don't.

If you look at that way, yes. There are many things which will eventually make me sad, but the kind of work I'm doing here, I won't get an opportunity to do it back in India.

 

[Omega007]

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Come to this group, then I will add you. You understand why I can't share my profile here. I have many PDF members in my friend list though.

Of course I can understand your point.But sadly,my server can't seem to open that page for now.Never mind,I'll send mine,I've no problem posting my id here in PDF.I'm a nobody,that's the privilege you get to enjoy when you

Lolwa! Nope, I don't.

Damn!!That was a good joke,but it is the reality too.......at least according to my observation.

If you look at that way, yes. There are many things which will eventually make me sad, but the kind of work I'm doing here, I won't get an opportunity to do it back in India.

Oh come on my brother.Concentrate on your carrier,rest is just bs.We as a race is finished,there is nothing much here anymore.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Oh come on my brother.Concentrate on your carrier,rest is just bs.We as a race is finished,there is nothing much here anymore.

I will not agree, there's still lots of potential left. Just remove those communists and that crack head whore from power, such is the condition, even Deepa Das Munshi seems like a sane choice for Bengal.

 

[Ankit Kumar 001]

Lets clear the doubts and reason the situation out.

These are the following countries which have a working AIP system.

1. France => MESMA
2. Sweden => Sterling
3. Germany => Hydrogen based Fuel cell.
4. Spain =>Organic fuel cell.

These are the countries trying to develop it.

1. Russia
2. India

These are the countries which use it.

1. Japan => Uses Swedish AIP.
2. Pakistan => Uses French AIP.
3. China => A derivative of Swedish Sterling. Now trying to improve it.


Now lets have a look at different types of AIP.

Basically these are of 3 types.

1. Internal combustion Steam Turbines . ( Ex MESMA of France. )
2. Sterling cycle AIP. (Sweden)
3. Fuel cell ( Ex Hydrogen fuel cell AIP of Germany, Bio ethanol of Spain, DRDO AIP)

Now lets take a look at their comparison.

In range
(Present not future)

Fuel Cell > MESMA > Sterling

In stealth and efficiency

Fuel cell = Sterling > MESMA


NOW come to a question why DRDO is taking time.

● Because it has chosen the most difficult type to build.
● Technologically it will be superior to MESMA and Sterling used presently. Systems from Germany and Spain only supersede it.

Why we should stick to it now.

Because we have already completed the first and most difficult stage of building and testing the prototype at ground.

PS:- Why I say Fuel cell is superior to MESMA of France. Please do some research yourselves in this field. By research, I mean just go through the working of each of them.

Also I have tried to be accurate . Corrections are most welcome.