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School van targeted by TTP in Swat

Only viable identity afte faith based is ethnic based. Pakistani is not an identity.
Agreed. Homogeneous societies is the biggest advantage and that's why Bangladesh is the best performing, also since it isn't engaged in an active conflict with a nuclear and military power.

But Pakistani identity still exists, it's just weak. When the country is in shambles, the bad aura in the air causes you to look for reasons why it's like that and it becomes ethnic or sectarian. When the country is doing good and developing people start appreciating the multi-ethnic-culturalism and don't mind.
 
Only viable identity afte faith based is ethnic based. Pakistani is not an identity.

Jinnah was ahead of his time. He knew exactly what he was creating. It is an identity, a nuclear identity unlike Afghan savage hell hole run on crude interpretation of faith, ethnic divides and instinct. Darwin was right after all, not all humans are created equal.

India and Bangladesh are starting to leave Pakistan in the dust .


No it isn’t, it’s a nationality. Bengalis rejected Pakistani identity therefore Pakistani identity is not viable.

Pakistan incubated Bangladesh so they could have their own identity, the creation of Bangladesh supports Jinnah's vision.
 
But Pakistani identity still exists, it's just weak. When the country is in shambles, the bad aura in the air causes you to look for reasons why it's like that and it becomes ethnic or sectarian. When the country is doing good and developing people start appreciating the multi-ethnic-culturalism and don't mind.
Well said and these TTP punks don't threaten Pakistani identity, they also consider themselves Pakistani and release their communication in Urdu.
 
There was a time, some 75 years ago, when the public was stronger than the government and the law enforcers. Public used to make its own rules when allowing a hindu-filled train to cross the border unscathed or not, into India. Public is still strong but its gone corrupt to the core. The values of integrity and honor have become twisted as time passed. Now make anyone a scapegoat, be it government or Military or ministers of KPK - its the corrupt public which harbors soft corner towards enemies of Pakistan and its the same public which wants Pakistan to prosper - such hypocrisy leads to disaster. A minister cannot rule over public neither a general can command his troops, if there is no code of conduct whether its rules, religion, policy, law or whatever binds the public/troops to the Government.

Coming to your question, do you honestly think that terrorists striking within cities of Pakistan can carry out movement, construction of explosives, transport of weapons, etc without the help of locals - be it public, police, military or any other entity of the nation. No, they cannot. A simple guerilla war cannot be sustained without the help of the locals let alone won.

If you think that one fine day, TTP just walked into Pakistan without FC challenging them, and now all this is happening is how it happened - well it didn't like that. The extremism mindset has surged so deep down into Pakistani community since it was never weeded out in the first place, that its easy to recruit anyone for money, providing security or lodgings, other incentives and above all using religion to brainwash their minds.

The terrorists never left Pakistan in the first place. They amalgamated into the society, within populated cities too. How is this a military war then ? You can cleanse an area (e.g. FATA) through operations 10 times, but unless that extremism mindset is shredded and killed, there will be people who will keep taking place of dead terrorists and keep this war going against Pakistan. Have you looked at locations of IBOs conducted inside Pakistan, the locations are not mountains or caves or jungles or deserts, the locations are houses/dwellings inside towns and cities of Pakistan.

Should military bomb every city of Pakistan ? should military bomb every city of Baluchistan ? Are drone strikes the answer ?

How many madrassahs are there in Pakistan, have you ever calculated the total and then how many students are studying in them and what text is being regulated in those madrassahs. Say military kills 100 TTP, next month 100 more will arrive, and then 100 more, so from where are they coming ? Are all of them coming from Afghanistan ? Even if they come from Afghanistan under guises of businessmen or tradesmen getting Pakistani visas, who is harboring them and providing them shelter inside Pakistan, where they recruit more and grow in numbers ? and its not just TTP, its also BLF and other Baluch separatist elements. Do you know how and where BLF was formed ? It was formed outside Pakistan, not even in bordering countries of Pakistan. Then how come today its has surged deeply inside Pakistan and entrenched itself inside Pakistan ?

In a city like Karachi, its become so easy to travel to a place, plant an IED and walk away. This has happened many times. While you may look at swat, you should also look at other major cities of Pakistan too.

Now should military start operations in every city of Pakistan ? What will happen then ? Military has barricaded itself inside strong picket fences and enhanced security parameters. It will never be wise to start a full swing military operation in all pf Pakistan, this will be a war against Pakistanis themselves. Pakistanis who absorbed the extremist ideology of extremists.

Some Pakistanis are aligned with Iran, some with KSA, some with Afghanistan, but no Pakistani is aligned with Pakistan.

This post reeks of the propaganda campaign launched by the military leadership against the Pakistani people, while swindling of billions in their off shore accounts.

Step 1: Launch Proxies within Pakistan, to create divisions within society.

Step 2: Tell Daddy that Pakistanis are horrible and we are the only ones who can control this rabid mob.

Step 3: Use sacrifices of brave young men to conjure up image among the gullible within Pakistan as being the only ones who can save Pakistan.

Step 4: Rinse and Repeat.
 
Jinnah was ahead of his time. He knew exactly what he was creating. It is an identity, a nuclear identity unlike Afghan savage hell hole run on crude interpretation of faith, ethnic divides and instinct. Darwin was right after all, not all humans are created equal.

Pakistan never won a war, never had to fight for anything, never had a war for independence and was given everything on a silver platter by the British. If it wasn’t for the British, Pakistan wouldn’t exist.

Pakistani identity runs anathema to ethnic identity. In order to fully be “Pakistani” you have to shed your ethnic one.

If Pakistani identity was a thing then Pakistanis wouldn’t be posting and sharing Indian Bollywood memes as Pakistani identity revolves around Urdu, an Indian language.

If Pakistani identity was a thing then the long running joke about Pakistanis wanting to be anything but Pakistani wouldn’t exist.

It’s why 2 Pakistani models pretended to be Arab and then started racially abusing other Pakistanis

 
Pakistan incubated Bangladesh so they could have their own identity, the creation of Bangladesh supports Jinnah's vision.

Bengalis existed eons before Pakistan.

Pakistan abused and looked down upon Bengalis in the name of Pakistani identity and Pakistaniyat.

So Bengalis rejected it, creation of Bangladesh disproves Jinnah’s version.

If the Generals don't stop their games, a humiliation greater than 71 would be experienced.

Inshallah.
Public mood in KPK is at a boiling point.

Alhumdullilah
 
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Bengalis existed ions before Pakistan.

Pakistan abused and looked down upon Bengalis in the name of Pakistani identity and Pakistaniyat.

So Bengalis rejected it, creation of Bangladesh disproves Jinnah’s version.



Inshallah.


Alhumdullilah

Mate whatever my posts about the military leadership and their policies, I swear Pushtun nationalists are the most idiotic lot on this planet.
 
Till the mid 60s, Bengalis were also chanting this slogan.

All changed within 6 years as Generals drunk on power kept on pushing them away.
these bastards need to be pushed away or dragged on streets! Pakistan in keh baap ka nai!

That’s a rally organized by Manzoor Pashteen
thats what Wardi mafia wants they want their pawns to get public support! i fear they will re launch altaf in khi to weaken PTI support!

what bastards! in kuttun ko Allah suwar ki maut day!
 
Pakistan buried hatred with India. There’s no conflict anymore.



Only relegated to a nationality. People watch Turkish dramas more than Pakistani dramas lmaooo
Disagree with both points, until it's publicly stated or strongly implied, it's still active. Large amounts of money are still being spent on the military regardless.

As for the second part, Pakistani dramas are still pretty popular, people watch both.
 
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