SC acquits Aasia Bibi in blasphemy case

[CriticalThought]

They say that what gets to social media, stays on there, so I am not buying this crap that it surfaced social media but 'was removed', bull crap, so many people view it, it gets shared, saved and propagated within seconds.

Again, more words, nothing of value to actually prove that she admitted.

Try posting anti-Semitic content, See how quickly it disappears.

 

[313ghazi]

How about you bring a quote from a valid scholar, or an authentic religious text that 'the rules for evidence have changed'.

Bro - take 30-40 minutes, read the verdict.

http://www.supremecourt.gov.pk/web/user_files/File/Crl.A._39_L_2015.pdf

So far it seems the judge decided to overturn the case because;

1. The witness statements kept changing and were contradictory to each other.
2. The woman claims she was forced to confess because she was threatened.
3. There was a 5 day delay before an FIR was registered.
4. The first "eye witnesses" had an arguement against the woman, so had a grudge.

I've not finished reading it yet. We have to assume what is written in the judges verdict is an accurate reflection of the facts. If that is the case, can we really put someone to death in a case where the witnesses can't even tell the same story and keep changing their own story.

 

[Lincoln]

A Muslim who goes to the mosque five times a day is considered honest and pious. Let's apply the same logic then. Why should we believe a non-Muslim woman is speaking the truth post fact? Where is your 'level of proof' when you take her words for granted?

But you have shown your true nature by stating that the concept of four witnesses no longer works. Did you hear this from a valid religious scholar? Do you think the Creator of the Universe did not know (Ma'aaz Allah) what the situation will be 1400 years later? You have just destroyed your own position as someone whose words could be given merit. You are yourself on shaky grounds regarding the feasibility of Islam, you need to first go and learn Islam yourself before calling to question its teachings.

A Muslim who goes to mosque five times a day is not necessarily considered honest. Honesty can be linked with Religiousness but at the same time it cannot. If you read how Buhkhari and Sahih hadeeth were collected and how it was assessed whether a person is truthful or not, you will see the criteria.

Try posting anti-Semitic content, See how quickly it disappears.

You just proved that you're wrong, go watch Haqeeqat Tv on Youtube, the channel is a breeding ground for anti Semitic content and has over 500k subscribers, it advocates that what Hitler did was right, unbelievable.

 

[CriticalThought]

Bro - take 30-40 minutes, read the verdict.

http://www.supremecourt.gov.pk/web/user_files/File/Crl.A._39_L_2015.pdf

So far it seems the judge decided to overturn the case because;

1. The witness statements kept changing and were contradictory to each other.
2. The woman claims she was forced to confess because she was threatened.
3. There was a 5 day delay before an FIR was registered.
4. The first "eye witnesses" had an arguement against the woman, so had a grudge.

I've not finished reading it yet. We have to assume what is written in the judges verdict is an accurate reflection of the facts. If that is the case, can we really put someone to death in a case where the witnesses can't even tell the same story and keep changing their own story.

Before I comment on the judgement, I need reason to even give it the due respect. I am calling to question the very motives under which the judgement was given.

 

[Lincoln]

you are twisting words again

forgot to add,you are clearly confused about your religion
you follow some tenets but refuse to follow others
fix yourself before talking abojt islam

Proven wrong so you resort to hate, perfect.

Before I comment on the judgement, I need reason to even give it the due respect. I am calling to question the very motives under which the judgement was given.

Try opening the heart of CJP and see what's inside. So dumb.

 

[Village life]

They say that what gets to social media, stays on there, so I am not buying this crap that it surfaced social media but 'was removed', bull crap, so many people view it, it gets shared, saved and propagated within seconds.

Again, more words, nothing of value to actually prove that she admitted.

You may find it on media soon or if you dig down , but as far as I remember my self it was TV news headlines that what she said later from some corners it was said she is medically mentally ill thats why she said such blasphemic words, later on medical board said she is medically fit ,

 

[CriticalThought]

A Muslim who goes to mosque five times a day is not necessarily considered honest. Honesty can be linked with Religiousness but at the same time it cannot. If you read how Buhkhari and Sahih hadeeth were collected and how it was assessed whether a person is truthful or not, you will see the criteria.

The more you speak, the more you show your ignorance about Islam. There are different levels of proof for validity of Hadith vs. witness of a crime.

You just proved that you're wrong, go watch Haqeeqat Tv on Youtube, the channel is a breeding ground for anti Semitic content and has over 500k subscribers, it advocates that what Hitler did was right, unbelievable.

How about you post a link to any actual anti-Semitic content? This is an experiment which people performed immediately after the Quran Burning incident. They created anti-Semitic pages and they were removed in a very short time. I am happy to perform another experiment with you. Point out anti-Semitic content and I will launch a complain. Let's see how quickly it goes away.

Try opening the heart of CJP and see what's inside. So dumb.

No need to open hearts when actions speak louder than words.

 

[313ghazi]

Before I comment on the judgement, I need reason to even give it the due respect. I am calling to question the very motives under which the judgement was given.

How can you judge intention? Surely at the very least in your quest to understand intention you should consider the only public statement the man has made.

 

[Zibago]

diat was also paid by shahzeb killer in karachi but sc rejected it and cj asked to transfer him to death cell

That proves what? The law is flawed and should be changed

yes,its only to quell the anarchy

The actions and demands are anarchy

again not innocent
she was let go to appease westerners

That is your claim if you have proof against her fi

in this world everyone do this be it west or saudia or other world.When option to kill hundreds of people or to kill one it is wise to kill one and avoid killing hundreds

Good to know your lot supports killing innocent in times of old tribal beings sacrificed children for rain you are more primitive than i thought

 

[Sugarcane]

just because some scholars dont follow it does not mean that its part of islam to not follow it
Islam stays Islam

It's not some. Majority of Muslims cherry pick thing from Quran, that's fact.

 

[CriticalThought]

How can you judge intention? Surely at the very least in your quest to understand intention you should consider the only public statement the man has made.

We need to look at the actions and words. His actions are clear. And his public statements show he derives intellectual inspiration from Western jurists and judges. This serves as a loud statement against him. This background DOES NOT befit anyone who is deciding a case involving the tenets of Islam.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

For greater interest of state kill innocent right good going

exactly .... its better to kill one rather then killing hundreds and letting millions to suffer for that one (not really innocent) soul .

 

[Lincoln]

The more you speak, the more you show your ignorance about Islam. There are different levels of proof for validity of Hadith vs. witness of a crime.



How about you post a link to any actual anti-Semitic content? This is an experiment which people performed immediately after the Quran Burning incident. They created anti-Semitic pages and they were removed in a very short time. I am happy to perform another experiment with you. Point out anti-Semitic content and I will launch a complain. Let's see how quickly it goes away.



No need to open hearts when actions speak louder than words.

1. Validity of Hadith is indeed different to witness of a crime, but the honesty and truthfulness as well as trustworthiness of a witness is also assessed, I was simply giving an analogy, assuming you even know what that means; that the extent to which it was made sure that the person was honest, in this era it is difficult and unreliable to a large extent because such people are rare.

2.

, there is one more, in one of the recent Israeli jet controversy. Have fun reporting.

We need to look at the actions and words. His actions are clear. And his public statements show he derives intellectual inspiration from Western jurists and judges. This serves as a loud statement against him. This background DOES NOT befit anyone who is deciding a case involving the tenets of Islam.

So, just because his decision is something West wanted to see, it means he derived intellectual inspiration from Western jurists and judges. Amazing logic, yar.

So if he did sentence her to the punishment, it would mean he derived intellectual inspiration from Saudi jurists and judges, therefore we can reject it : )

 

[Rollno21]

exactly .... its better to kill one rather then killing hundreds and letting millions to suffer for that one (not really innocent) soul .

What about someone who said ,you kill one innocent you kill entire humanity,I think you follow his teachings

 

[CriticalThought]

1. Validity of Hadith is indeed different to witness of a crime, but the honesty and truthfulness as well as trustworthiness of a witness is also assessed, I was simply giving an analogy, assuming you even know what that means; that the extent to which it was made sure that the person was honest, in this era it is difficult and unreliable to a large extent because such people are rare.

2.

, there is one more, in one of the recent Israeli jet controversy. Have fun reporting.



So, just because his decision is something West wanted to see, it means he derived intellectual inspiration from Western jurists and judges. Amazing logic, yar.

So if he did sentence her to the punishment, it would mean he derived intellectual inspiration from Saudi jurists and judges, therefore we can reject it : )

Right, this is ridiculous. If witnesses were no longer enough to show validity, religious scholars would be telling us about it. Now bring a valid reference from reputable Islamic sources, or shut up.

So, just because his decision is something West wanted to see, it means he derived intellectual inspiration from Western jurists and judges. Amazing logic, yar.

So if he did sentence her to the punishment, it would mean he derived intellectual inspiration from Saudi jurists and judges, therefore we can reject it : )

And now you show lack of comprehension. I am saying this man is on record saying his inspiration is non-Muslim Western jurists. This man is not qualified to opine on Islamic matters, one way or the other. That IS exactly what I am saying.