Save Taliban or save Pakistan

[Icarus]

"SAVE TALIBAN OR SAVE PAKISTAN" that decision has to taken by Pakistan army. Till now they are choosing first one....

Yeah I guess the Ops in FATA were carried out by Harry Potter and Dumbledore's Army. Maybe you should ask them to help you with the Naxals......

 

[FaujHistorian]

Yeah I guess the Ops in FATA were carried out by Harry Potter and Dumbledore's Army. Maybe you should ask them to help you with the Naxals......

Pak army did wornderful job cleaning up most of the FATA agencies. Bur for some reason, they have ground to the halt while NW and Khyber agencies are still burning.

I am sure there are logistical and tactical issues. But the halt has provided Taliboobies to regroup and attack sensitive places like Kamra.

peace to you.

 

[Icarus]

Pak army did wornderful job cleaning up most of the FATA agencies. Bur for some reason, they have ground to the halt while NW and Khyber agencies are still burning.

I am sure there are logistical and tactical issues. But the halt has provided Taliboobies to regroup and attack sensitive places like Kamra.

peace to you.

Agreed, I myself had voiced severe criticism of stopping short of NWA when complete victory was within our reach but the Army too had valid reasons for halting their advance. With limited funds and troops spread out thin, committing more men to NWA meant two things:

1) Army would overshoot the Defence Budget, won't go well with the GoP under the given economic strain.
2) It would require pulling men out of existing Ops areas, casing the balloon effect, you press one side of a balloon and the air just moves to the other side.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Agreed, I myself had voiced severe criticism of stopping short of NWA when complete victory was within our reach but the Army too had valid reasons for halting their advance. With limited funds and troops spread out thin, committing more men to NWA meant two things:

1) Army would overshoot the Defence Budget, won't go well with the GoP under the given economic strain.
2) It would require pulling men out of existing Ops areas, casing the balloon effect, you press one side of a balloon and the air just moves to the other side.

Agreed. Pak army has already carried a heavy heavy burden, too heavy dare I say. We all have to pray for their success. They are the "great wall" around Pakistan to save us from utter anarchy.

peace to you. Peace to all.

 

[BATMAN]

"SAVE TALIBAN OR SAVE PAKISTAN" that decision has to taken by Pakistan army. Till now they are choosing first one....

TTP are mostly Indians. This is what we have seen in Dir, Swata, same story in Wazirastan.
Locals, know it and if any Pakistani have any doubts, he shall visit the clean-up areas and interview locals.
Lashkars formed by Pak army, continued to fight those thives and learned about those scumbags, first hand.

I have a similar interesting story of an fake Imam from Wazirastan, who was caught with his radio by locals, and killed on the spot only to discover he being non Muslim.

 

[jetti]

TTP are mostly Indians. This is what we have seen in Dir, Swata, same story in Wazirastan.
Locals, know it and if any Pakistani have any doubts, he shall visit the clean-up areas and interview locals.
Lashkars formed by Pak army, continued to fight those thives and learned about those scumbags, first hand.

I have a similar interesting story of an fake Imam from Wazirastan, who was caught with his radio by locals, and killed on the spot only to discover he being non Muslim.

thats because india claims pakistani punjab and P0K.
well .. ttp are muslims first then indian second (a quote you guys love)
ttp will convert pak to rotten caliphate style govt.

 

[Bratva]

Agreed, I myself had voiced severe criticism of stopping short of NWA when complete victory was within our reach but the Army too had valid reasons for halting their advance. With limited funds and troops spread out thin, committing more men to NWA meant two things:

1) Army would overshoot the Defence Budget, won't go well with the GoP under the given economic strain.
2) It would require pulling men out of existing Ops areas, casing the balloon effect, you press one side of a balloon and the air just moves to the other side.

A civilian criticising the top ranking khakis infront of them . . . I hope bloody civilian didnt land into grey area afterwards

On a serious note, Icarus,this is the weirdiest thing i'm gonna ask, did it ever occured it to army top brass to ask civilian leaderships to open a dedicated money printing for army which produces like 10 20 billion
a month. It's the same idea which governments do, to decrease the deficit, they print more money although it increases inflation. But in Army case with stricter oversight and accountability assures it will be spend on WoT only, this money printing machines may solve army funding problem and civilian government could free up it's budget and funding problems could be decreased?

 

[Icarus]

A civilian criticising the top ranking khakis infront of them . . . I hope bloody civilian didnt land into grey area afterwards

On a serious note, Icarus,this is the weirdiest thing i'm gonna ask, did it ever occured it to army top brass to ask civilian leaderships to open a dedicated money printing for army which produces like 10 20 billion
a month. It's the same idea which governments do, to decrease the deficit, they print more money although it increases inflation. But in Army case with stricter oversight and accountability assures it will be spend on WoT only, this money printing machines may solve army funding problem and civilian government could free up it's budget and funding problems could be decreased?

1) It would result in massive inflation.
2) It would result in more complaints from the Civvies.

 

[BATMAN]

thats because india claims pakistani punjab and P0K.
well .. ttp are muslims first then indian second (a quote you guys love)
ttp will convert pak to rotten caliphate style govt.

Your claims will take you no where....

We shall continue to kill TTP... you getting unhappy is not going to help.

 

[KRAIT]

TTP are mostly Indians. This is what we have seen in Dir, Swata, same story in Wazirastan.
Locals, know it and if any Pakistani have any doubts, he shall visit the clean-up areas and interview locals.
Lashkars formed by Pak army, continued to fight those thives and learned about those scumbags, first hand.

I have a similar interesting story of an fake Imam from Wazirastan, who was caught with his radio by locals, and killed on the spot only to discover he being non Muslim.

Are you saying Indians are giving payback of 26/11 and Kashmir insurgency.

Seriously dude, there might be financial and logistical backing, MAY BE, (personally I think RAW is) but TTP are not Indians. They kidnap soldiers, behead them, line the heads and make videos. Its their old way. No Indians as far as I think.

Provide proof from any media outlet with credibility. I admit RAW is behind BLA (have my own reason).

India won't risk Indians found committing Terrorism in Pakistan. We want to keep the victim of terrorism role even if we fund terrorists in Pakistan. We wont risk our stance and sympathy, especially of West.

Remember common man's perception means a lot. Most westerner looks Indians as citizens of Nation which is Victim of Terrorism, terrorist outfits like LeT.

 

[Bratva]

1) It would result in massive inflation.
2) It would result in more complaints from the Civvies.

Since i'm a total noob. I thought, If government use this method inflation would increase with more circulation of money as money value will decrease. But Army is using this money to Fund the WoT ,,,, not contributing anything in to economy.

Army already spends 400-500 Billion Ruppess,,, if using this method increases their spending by 300-400 Billion than how it is gonna increase inflation ? Which in near future Military budget would reach 700-800 Mark.


Point 2 is supposed that this approach will be monitored totally by civilians and they can monitor every penny spend by Army.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Are you saying Indians are giving payback of 26/11 and Kashmir insurgency.

Seriously dude, there might be financial and logistical backing, MAY BE, (personally I think RAW is) but TTP are not Indians. They kidnap soldiers, behead them, line the heads and make videos. Its their old way. No Indians as far as I think.

Provide proof from any media outlet with credibility. I admit RAW is behind BLA (have my own reason).

India won't risk Indians found committing Terrorism in Pakistan. We want to keep the victim of terrorism role even if we fund terrorists in Pakistan. We wont risk our stance and sympathy, especially of West.

Remember common man's perception means a lot. Most westerner looks Indians as citizens of Victim of Terrorism Nation.

Come on KRAIT yara,

You are think tank, let these things go. That bhai sahib made a mistake or at least showed his ignorance about TTP. We don't need to nitpick on every little thing (let me know when I do the same thing).

But for gods sakes, let's not use terms like "terrorism nation". It doesn't help anyone and ends up lumping good and bad all together in a big messy bunch.

Thank you

Happy posting.

 

[BATMAN]

Are you saying Indians are giving payback of 26/11 and Kashmir insurgency.

You understood what I said and proof is in my claim.

Seriously dude, there might be financial and logistical backing, MAY BE, (personally I think RAW is) but TTP are not Indians.

This is new, since army bust your *** of your special forces in Swat and Waziristan.

They kidnap soldiers, behead them, line the heads and make videos. Its their old way. No Indians as far as I think.

Beheadings are only done by Indians, kidnappers may be salaried.

Provide proof from any media outlet with credibility. I admit RAW is behind BLA (have my own reason).

Indeed, and your consulate in Zaheedan, did a great deal of damage but don't take all credit. There are few other parties involved too.

India won't risk Indians found committing Terrorism in Pakistan. We want to keep the victim of terrorism role even if we fund terrorists in Pakistan. We wont risk our stance and sympathy, especially of West

It's nothing to be proud of, without support of Zardari regime, you wouldn't be so protected.

Remember common man's perception means a lot. Most westerner looks Indians as citizens of Victim of Terrorism Nation

Perception is not truth.

 

[KRAIT]

Come on KRAIT yara,

You are think tank, let these things go. That bhai sahib made a mistake or at least showed his ignorance about TTP. We don't need to nitpick on every little thing (let me know when I do the same thing).

But for gods sakes, let's not use terms like "terrorism nation". It doesn't help anyone and ends up lumping good and bad all together in a big messy bunch.

Thank you

Happy posting.

Buddy, I was trying to explain possible Indian tactics in Afghanistan and to make sure any new member don't get wron info because posts of Elite members are something new members give weightage.

Victim of Terrorism Nation meant- Nations which are victim of Terrorism.

India by LET, Pakistan by TTP and US by Al Qaeda.

Sorry for misunderstanding words. I didn't mean terrorism nation as Pakistan.

Thanks for pointing out, many people would have taken it in wrong way.

 

[karan21]

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