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Saudi's MBC launching new drama series ‘exposing Ottoman tyranny’

after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire , ( christian-zionist-shia ) the US,the UK,France,Israel,Russia,Iran killed millions of Arabs in Algeria,Libya,Egypt,Palestine,Yemen,Iraq,Syria,etc

and the US-the UK are milking pathetic slaves S.Arabia and the Uae as like cows
without oil reserves S.Arabia and the Uae would be similar to Yemen

Arabs , enjoy with your fate and the tyranny of the dictatorial regimes and their bloody history
 
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No point of digging old rivalries between dead people
This will back fire , What if (other) Arabs , Persians , Turks , Africans , Indians , Europeans , Iraqis , Egyptians , Central Asians etc , etc , and many others start this trend ,too This trend will not going to help Muslims , this will destroy what ever harmony we have left ……

after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire , ( christian-zionist-shia ) the US,the UK,France,Israel,Russia,Iran killed millions of Arabs in Algeria,Libya,Egypt,Palestine,Yemen,Iraq,Syria,etc

and the US-the UK are milking pathetic slaves S.Arabia and the Uae as like cows
without oil reserves S.Arabia and the Uae would be similar to Yemen

Arabs , enjoy with your fate and the tyranny of the dictatorial regimes and their bloody history
Look at Algeria , Morocco , Tunisia Just look at there names (French colonies and Spanish Style) Just look at what those colonial powers did there (Mass rapes , mix child etc) ………………..
 
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The Ottoman empire was the last time the Palestinians, and now even Syrians, Iraq, had some protection and dignity. The Arab League despite its huge size and resources has been helpless to control Israel or other mischievious influences in nearly 70 years.
 
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You Persians are still butthurt about Caldiran too bad the Ottomans did not finish the job.

After Great Seljuk civilization: ( which is actually islamic "Turkish Persian Arab" alliance )

Anatolian Seljuks dynasty ( Oghuz Turkic clan )
Successor
Ottomans ( Oghuz Turkic clan ) Dulkadirs ( Oghuz Turkic clan ) Ramazanids ( Oghuz Turkic clan )

for Levant-Mezapotamia : Zengids ( Oghuz Turkic clan)
Successor:
Dawla Al Turkiyya/Mamluks Dynasty - First Bahri dynasty (Cuman-Kipchak Turks) then Burjis (Circassians or Turkic origin)

Aq Qoyunlu Confederation Dynasty ( Oghuz Turk )
Successor:
Safavids Dynasty ( Theirs native language is Turkish. There are two different theses that they are of Turkic Kizilbash(religous warriors) or Kurdish origin. )

A ridiculous discussion of arabic style nationalism over facts that did not exist in the 15th and 16th centuries.

If you are talking about the origins of dynasty families, there is no dynasty without Turkish blood.

If you are talking about the sectarian fight between Shah Ismail and Yavuz Sultan Selim, the Safevid Kizilbashes were Turkish , just like Ottoman Akincis. The Turks, were on both sides, like the Iranian peoples.

But if you want to push the situation and carry out a debate on nationalism: We need to know that the other Kıpchaks or Oghuz clans were the previous owners of todays Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Eastern Anatolia Caucasus etc. which are gained by ottoman between 14 to 17 th century.
 
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Can y"all stop bloddy bringing up past clashes then again Turkey,Iran,GCC are flip side of the same coin hegemonic regional powers wanting their sway let's be honest none of you guys actually care about Muslims you want us poorer Muslim countries as cannon fodder for regional dominance tho I prefer Turks and Iranian hegemony for Eurasian integration over GCC backed by the Yanks mostly
 
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Can y"all stop bloddy being up past clashes then again Turkey,Iran,GCC are flip side of the same coin hegemonic regional powers wanting their sway let's be honest none of you guys actually care about Muslims you want us poorer Muslim countries as cannon fodder for regional dominance tho I prefer Turks and Iranian hegemony for Eurasian integration over GCC backed by the Yanks mostly

I’m with you I prefer Turkish/Iranian/Pakistani dominance GCC is useless.
 
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I’m with you I prefer Turkish/Iranian/Pakistani dominance GCC is useless.
Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Indonesia. If these eight countries were able to achieve a strong economic and political unity in the post-2000 postmodern period, world history would be written very differently. However, the D-8 attempt failed. Look at the external interventions or chaos that the member states have experienced in the last 25 years.

Now we're trying again with smaller kernels. Malaysia-Pakistan-Turkey trilateral mechanism is an example of this. I hope that Iran will soon be included in this group.
 
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You Persians are still butthurt about Caldiran too bad the Ottomans did not finish the job.
Actually, your crazy Sultans must thanks to us that Safavid did not finish Osmans.
 
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These Osman thugs tried to destroy Safavids kingdom too.
three years after Battle of Chaldiran, Mamluk state fall and that was one of the consensuses of Battle of Chaldiran to push Osmans toward Arab world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chaldiran
battle of Chaldiran was a war between 2 Turkish nation. Thats why Ottoman didnt push it hard to destroy Safavids. Do you even know how the war started?

When Sultan Selim came to power, Europe knew that he is the strongest one and he will push into Europe. They send a delegation to Safavids that they want to give artillery to Safavids but they can deliver it to coast of the black sea. Shah Ismail took his army came all the way to Trabzon to wait for the delivery, but he was lied, they just wanted to start the war between Safavids and Ottoman. on the other hand, they told to Selim that Safavids attacked to Trabzon and nearby cities. He immediately took his army and attacked Safavids.
 
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You Persians are still butthurt about Caldiran too bad the Ottomans did not finish the job.
Well its aggressor/warmongers that must be ashamed of it act not the one whom defended his lands.
 
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