Saudis have been abandoning their kids abroad, Now the children want answers

[prashantazazel]

Has no one heard of protection?
Why are so many having unwanted children?


This does confirm one thing- you guys have similar morality to us liberals and atheists. You just hide it.

 

[_Nabil_]

@Bengal71

Unfortunately very true, prostitution and Hashish

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

by Ommar

If Hazrat Ommar banned Muttah ,what were imam of Haq Moula Ali doing?
He did not stop Ommar from banning Muttah?
Or at least Moula Ali should have officially unbanned Muttah in his reign.
Have you records of official unbanning of Muttah during Moula Ali's reign?

Abdur Rahman al-Salami reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “Do not be excessive in the dowry of women.” A woman said, “It is no so, O Umar, for Allah said: You gave one of them a great amount,” (4:20). Umar said, “Indeed, a woman has disputed Umar and she has defeated him.”

In another narration, Umar said, “The woman is right and the man is wrong.”

Source: Muṣannaf ‘Abd al-Razzāq 10420

Do you think a man of this nature will ban anything halal in Islam?

 

[Hack-Hook]

If Hazrat Ommar banned Muttah ,what were imam of Haq Moula Ali doing?
He did not stop Ommar from banning Muttah?
Or at least Moula Ali should have officially unbanned Muttah in his reign.
Have you records of official unbanning of Muttah during Moula Ali's reign?

Abdur Rahman al-Salami reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “Do not be excessive in the dowry of women.” A woman said, “It is no so, O Umar, for Allah said: You gave one of them a great amount,” (4:20). Umar said, “Indeed, a woman has disputed Umar and she has defeated him.”

In another narration, Umar said, “The woman is right and the man is wrong.”

Source: Muṣannaf ‘Abd al-Razzāq 10420

Do you think a man of this nature will ban anything halal in Islam?

well its not a matter to be decided ion philosophical debates . historian agree on it banned after holy prophet time and at the time of Omar.
why he banned it , let just say in one war Arab soldiers could not keep their trousers zipper closed. so I don't question his morality . it was banned by him for a reason , later religious figures said the ban is not applicable and its allowed . one banned it another unbanned it . whats so strange about it.

Has no one heard of protection?
Why are so many having unwanted children?


This does confirm one thing- you guys have similar morality to us liberals and atheists. You just hide it.

well no protection unless you remove the reproductive organs 100% foolproof

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

well its not a matter to be decided ion philosophical debates . historian agree on it banned after holy prophet time and at the time of Omar.

It was banned in Holy Prophet's peacce be upon Him own life.But in that days,there were no fast communication sources so it could not reach to every Sahabi.
Later on, Hazrat Umar banned it most effectively.

85% Muslim population believes that Muttah is not allowed in Islam.only 15 % believe and even they do not like to practice it for their own relative women.
My last question why imam of Haq Moula Ali did not unban muttah officially during his reign?
My answer:
It was banned rightly by Omar so Moula Ali did not unban muttah.

 

[Maula Jatt]

They are similar.
Muttah has time limit, like 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months etc. I think only unmarried can do it, not the married people.

In Misyar they do a nikah but they agree to meet every 3 days for 1 hour or weekly meetups for 1 hour, the woman has no rights. Her job is just to meet up over 3 long nights and go back, or meet up for 1 hour. She has no right to claim anything from the husband.

Muttah used to be ok in Islam but then it was banned, same as slavery, interest, alcohol. Islam slowly changed the society and then placed restrictions. In the 21st century people want to go back to pre Islam period.
Muttah is unacceptable and not allowed as it was banned.

Misyar is fraud with the lady. These rich people rather than hiring hookers, they just ring the misyar lady for free. The mullahs are probably chilling. You can just divorce her after 1 meet up.

There are other marriages promoted by Saudia like the Misfar Holiday marriage, the Jihad marriage etc.

Wahabbis are worse because they talk a lot of crap on how others are wrong, this and that
Their whole psyche is to crap on other relgious practices or some extremists even labelling others non Muslims

So from that background doing this kinda crap definitely makes them look worse

When you talk a big game- back it up too

It was banned in Holy Prophet's peacce be upon Him own life.But in that days,there were no fast communication sources so it could not reach to every Sahabi.
Later on, Hazrat Umar banned it most effectively.

85% Muslim population believes that Muttah is not allowed in Islam.only 15 % believe and even they do not like to practice it for their own relative women.
My last question why imam of Haq Moula Ali did not unban muttah officially during his reign?
My answer:
It was banned rightly by Omar so Moula Ali did not unban muttah.

Clearly not - you see as Saudis have thier own version of it
So can't be all of them

 

[nope]

Yep. The few voices of sanity in a world fast moving to homosexual, non-binary, neoliberal, pedophilia, trans-BS, genderless, femiNazi, BS! .... I sound Muslim Forever.

Those woke people are the people defending Muslim and there rights in the west and abroad these right wing nut job will kill and deport every single Muslim if they had the chance just goes to show where you stand

he is good
you are saying it like he is supposed to be a deranged Alex jones type retard but
just because your views are not the same as yours
it doesn't mean their opinions become stupid

no he's not btw he's a deranged hate filled moron who gets more deranged as time goes on
he might become alex jones type

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj_lNRIlctYh

 

[PakAlp]

by Ommar, his decree is bound by his enforcement , not Islam . shia cleric bring Quran verse to support it and many sahaba didn't accept the ban

Your mistaken. In Sharia law we follow Quran, Hadith, Ijma and Qiyaas. The Ijma of the Sahaba Ra is part of the sharia law. When the Khawarij rebelled against Hazrat Ali Ra, they accused him of going against Islam but we reject it because Hazrat Ali Ra was a walking Quran and Sharia. They may have made some good points but Hazrat Ali Ra also knew Sharia. If Hazrat Umar Ra banned Muta then we consider is not allowed by Sharia. Same with Saudi Misyar, Misfar, Jihad marriages and the sharia manipulating under ground halala Nikah etc.

Later on in the century some differences in the ummah were agreed upon by the Salaf and we consider that part of sharia aswell. It made Islam strong and united, they got rid of alot of the differences.

In the 21st century we have Mullahs who bring out quotes like he did this, he said that but they fail to understand the whole scenario. They fail to read the history and fitnas which took place. They themselves make major errors whilst claiming to know it all.

Wahabbis are worse because they talk a lot of crap on how others are wrong, this and that
Their whole psyche is to crap on other relgious practices or some extremists even labelling others non Muslims

Good point. They claim to be the pious and claim the historical Islam was false and they made everything correct but they themselves make major errors. Islam started 1400 years ago and not in the 18th century. We cannot ignore the classical Islam when Muslims were highly educated, advanced and created the golden era of Islam. Allah almighty blessed us with Islamic history to show how our elders lived but people destroy them through bombings. Look at the Islamic heritage destruction in Saudia, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Syria etc. They cannot accept our ancestors were different than us, yes they made mistakes but so do we. Why not atleast agree on the agreements which they had for centuries upon centuries but instead they are busy opening up old debates and confusing and dividing the ummah. You will be shocked how Saudia manipulates the old classical Islamic Quran and Hadith translations and tafsirs, they take what they don't like and add their own wordings and then print millions of copies.

 

[Clutch]

Those woke people are the people defending Muslim and there rights in the west and abroad these right wing nut job will kill and deport every single Muslim if they had the chance just goes to show where you stand

Sure they can. That's a seperate issue. Doesn't really bother me. I have a lot of right wing white conservative Trump supporting friends. We get along perfectly fine. I've grown up with them.

I agree with their moral stance on homogay trans-binary Neoliberal FemiNazi issues.

 

[nope]

Sure they can. That's a seperate issue. Doesn't really bother me. I have a lot of right wing white conservative Trump supporting friends. We get along perfectly fine. I've grown up with them.

I agree with their moral stance on homogay trans-binary Neoliberal FemiNazi issues.

LMAO
what a world we live in man

 

[Hack-Hook]

Your mistaken. In Sharia law we follow Quran, Hadith, Ijma and Qiyaas. The Ijma of the Sahaba Ra is part of the sharia law. When the Khawarij rebelled against Hazrat Ali Ra, they accused him of going against Islam but we reject it because Hazrat Ali Ra was a walking Quran and Sharia. They may have made some good points but Hazrat Ali Ra also knew Sharia. If Hazrat Umar Ra banned Muta then we consider is not allowed by Sharia. Same with Saudi Misyar, Misfar, Jihad marriages and the sharia manipulating under ground halala Nikah etc.

when there is Quran , then there is no place for sunna , and then the sunna would be what holy prophet practiced compared to what Omar practiced , why what Omar practiced most take precedence a
by the way as far as I'm aware only Holy Quran is infallible and cant be changed later.

Later on in the century some differences in the ummah were agreed upon by the Salaf and we consider that part of sharia aswell. It made Islam strong and united, they got rid of alot of the differences.

as i said that will be Ijma , ijma can be changed if later clerics agree that as the situation of word change that previous ijma is not applicable any more its also not infallible

In the 21st century we have Mullahs who bring out quotes like he did this, he said that but they fail to understand the whole scenario. They fail to read the history and fitnas which took place. They themselves make major errors whilst claiming to know it all.

I don't see why mullah of 14 and 15 century must be different from the one of 8th century or 2nd century

 

[Maula Jatt]

Sure they can. That's a seperate issue. Doesn't really bother me. I have a lot of right wing white conservative Trump supporting friends. We get along perfectly fine. I've grown up with them.

I agree with their moral stance on homogay trans-binary Neoliberal FemiNazi issues.

You live in Canada mate...
Smh

 

[Hack-Hook]

It was banned in Holy Prophet's peacce be upon Him own life.But in that days,there were no fast communication sources so it could not reach to every Sahabi.
Later on, Hazrat Umar banned it most effectively.

we believe it was not banned then

85% Muslim population believes that Muttah is not allowed in Islam.only 15 % believe and even they do not like to practice it for their own relative women.
My last question why imam of Haq Moula Ali did not unban muttah officially during his reign?

a question is there any presedence that he prosecuted anybody who practiced it ? and let ask a question Imam Ali gave a governmental decree that you must pay Zakat on hourses , do you still pay zakat on horses

 

[Clutch]

You live in Canada mate...
Smh

I've lived all over north america... Canada is where I was born. Houston.

 

[Homajon]

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