Saudia, Bahrain, UAE & Egypt cut diplomatic ties with Qatar

[Saif al-Arab]

If shit hits the fan we might as well annex Qatar and be over with it. That 45 year old country should not even have existed quite frankly given that there was never an independent state based in what is today Qatar.

For millennia during the pre-Islamic era this part of the Arabian Peninsula was a part of ancient civilizations, empires and kingdoms native to what is modern-day KSA and ruled by people from what is modern-day KSA and inhabited by the same people just like today. Similarly during the Islamic era, KSA and Qatar were part of the same states 95% of the time, which were founded by people from modern-day KSA and ruled by people from modern-day KSA.

Not only that 95% of all the 300.000 or so Qatari are originally from modern-day KSA and belong to ancient Arab tribes native to modern-day KSA. Almost all of them migrated from KSA to neighboring Qatar within the past 250 years. The Qatari royal family is also originally from KSA (Najd).

It would be better for KSA, the GCC, Arab world and Qatar (on the long run) to become a part of a strong regional power instead of being forced to rely on 2 + million expats and being outnumbered 1 to 10.

It's not going to happen today (continued political, social and military unification of the Arabian Peninsula is inevitable eventually but that is another discussion) but it's not needed. A change of policy or changing the few Al-Thani's in power (like they used to do themselves in coups) would be enough. However even if 5% of what has been reported is true about Hamad and son, they will have to be taught a lesson. If such a green lights exist, I will say go for the kill.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

[Saif al-Arab, post: 9552256, member: 167867"]If shit hits the fan we might as well annex Qatar and be over with it. That 45 year old country should not even have existed quite frankly given that there was never an independent state based in what is today Qatar.
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In this case, you should accept that Saudi Arabia is an artificial state too. There was never a Saudi Arabia before.

 

[Khanate]

If shit hits the fan we might as well annex Qatar and be over with it. That 45 year old country should not even have existed quite frankly given that there was never an independent state based in what is today Qatar.

For millennia during the pre-Islamic era this part of the Arabian Peninsula was a part of ancient civilizations, empires and kingdoms native to what is modern-day KSA and ruled by people from what is modern-day KSA and inhabited by the same people just like today. Similarly during the Islamic era, KSA and Qatar were part of the same states 95% of the time, which were founded by people from modern-day KSA and ruled by people from modern-day KSA.

Not only that 95% of all the 300.000 or so Qatari are originally from modern-day KSA and belong to ancient Arab tribes native to modern-day KSA. Almost all of them migrated from KSA to neighboring Qatar within the past 250 years. The Qatari royal family is also originally from KSA (Najd).

It would be better for KSA, the GCC, Arab world and Qatar (on the long run) to become a part of a strong regional power instead of being forced to rely on 2 + million expats and being outnumbered 1 to 10.

It's not going to happen today (continued political, social and military unification of the Arabian Peninsula is inevitable eventually but that is another discussion) but it's not needed. A change of policy or changing the few Al-Thani's in power (like they used to do themselves in coups) would be enough. However even if 5% of what has been reported is true about Hamad and son, they will have to be taught a lesson. If such a green lights exist, I will say go for the kill.

While dealing with Qatar, take a lesson from history, i.e., brothers make the worst, and most eager, of enemies.

 

[drmeson]

[Saif al-Arab, post: 9552256, member: 167867"]If shit hits the fan we might as well annex Qatar and be over with it. That 45 year old country should not even have existed quite frankly given that there was never an independent state based in what is today Qatar.

In this case, you should accept that Saudi Arabia is an artificial state too. There was never a Saudi Arabia before. [/QUOTE]

They tried to make one. You guys cut their heads lol.

oops it was your egyptian/albanian or whatever commanders. You got my point.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Qatar is not backing down, talks of food/water supplies via Iran/Turkey. Turkish troop deployment to Qatar on the table, KSA wouldn't dare if the Turks are actively involved. And Germany, Turkey, US all calling for dialogue in the region.

Did KSA play her hand to quickly.

 

[drmeson]

Qatar is not backing down, talks of food/water supplies via Iran/Turkey. Turkish troop deployment to Qatar on the table, KSA wouldn't dare if the Turks are actively involved. And Germany, Turkey, US all calling for dialogue in the region.

Did KSA play her hand to quickly.

Arkadas Qatar probably already had secret pacts with Iran and Turkey. Why did they otherwise put Turk soldiers in doha ? some time ago, qatari navy even excersized with IRGC-N. This was a sign because IRGC is a controversial entity. Iran is already present in Yemen and Iraq. If Turkey makes qatar its stronghold like it seems to be doing. How many enemies will saoodis fight ?

 

[Arabi]

Turkey approved to fast track deployment of troops to Qatar, some 3,000 Turkish troops. A very symbolic move.

I don't think they are going to do any thing significant ..

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

I don't think they are going to do any thing significant ..

Arab troll. Bring it on, they will tear you a new one worse then in Yemen

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@Sinan

Qatar unlike Egypt doesn't experience any economic issues right now. Even if all of the GCC states cut their relationship with Doha immediately the Qataris wouldn't have any problems in the foreseeable future because they simply don't need pipelines to export liquified gas to the world. Qatar's resources are relatively larger than Saudi Arabia's for instance.

It is the right decision. He's doing the right thing for once.

 

[Dai Toruko]

I don't think they are going to do any thing significant ..

You are a joke.

 

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@Sinan

Qatar unlike Egypt doesn't experience any economic issues right now. Even if all of the GCC states cut their relationship with Doha immediately the Qataris wouldn't have any problems in the foreseeable future because they simply don't need pipelines to export liquified gas to the world. Qatar's resources are relatively larger than Saudi Arabia's for instance.

It is the right decision. He's doing the right thing for once.

Okay, let's assume that you are right.

And what if Al-Thani gets removed a month later or better if he caves in for Saudi demands. What then ?

That will be Mursi all over again.

We are still on bad terms with Egypt....for what ?

Only for this.

 

[Falcon29]

PDF has been getting really messy the past couple days ... everyone relax and don't get yourselves banned ....

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The nations that cut ties have not made any public demands as of yet, but if we were to assume it's anything like what we've seen in rumors, it is pointless for Qatar to respond to any of them. Al Jazeera is the biggest media outlet in the Arab world, it does the job better than Al-Arabiya or anyone else. It addresses important topics and has top notch documentaries. Sure it is bias with certain conflicts, but it is not going anywhere. Provide better alternative news rather than behave like children wanting to get everything banned.

Qatar doesn't need to stop supporting the MB or populism in the region. Instead of lashing out at Qatar, provide a better political and social alternative to populism or MB or whatever you want to call it. It's funny that they are accusing Qatar of interfering in Arab affairs for supporting MB. Well you need to know we people in Levant are mostly moderate Sunni Muslims and many Sufi's as well. We don't have much in common with these Gulf regimes. We are historically close to MB thought and views. So it's your regimes which need to stop interfering in North Africa or the Levant. This is pretty much a war on Levant Sunni Political Islam. No offense to residents of the Gulf, but your regimes leaders are dumb and we don't share their visions for our future. They don't know the politics in our part of the region, they don't know how to approach I/P conflict, they don't understand our social fabric, etc....

Just because we are also Arab doesn't mean we share same perspectives. I'm tired of them complaining about 'MB' when in reality they are whining about Levant population having different ideology and political/social visions that are superior than theirs, we just don't have the money or stability to implement them.

 

[Baybars Han]

I don't think they are going to do any thing significant ..

I would be scared of citizens that jump infront of tanks and defend their unity against traitors from the inside. They are not even Turkish soldiers they are fethullan gulens little dogs in the military. They always say its easier to Turks from the inside which is what they tried.



I would be more ashamed of begging americans and crumbling when iraq came.

 

[drmeson]

Okay, let's assume that you are right.

And what if Al-Thani gets removed a month later or better if he caves in for Saudi demands. What then ?

That will be Mursi all over again.

We are still on bad terms with Egypt....for what ?

Only for this.

Morsi atleast had ideological credibility. What does Saudi appointed sisi has ? saoodi petro Dollars and US supplied guns ? Turkey, Qatar and to some extent Iran supported the right group in Cairo with visible political and more importantly ideological support on ground. People will remember that.

 

[The SC]

Latest developments of the crisis:

1 - Saudi Arabia met with a number of ambassadors of Asian countries in Riyadh to discuss and clarify the crisis in Qatar.

2 - The Saudi Foreign Minister arrived in Germany after his trip to France to discuss and clarify the Qatari crisis. German Foreign Minister calls on Qatar to be transparent and responsive to its neighbors

3 - After the visit of Adel al-Jubeir, France asks Qatar for transparency and respond to the accusations of Saudi Arabia.

4 - Qatar threatens to withdraw from the GCC and not accept any Saudi dictates or refute its positions.

5 - Qatar has the option of solving the crisis and at the same time Qatar will bear its responsibility for the results of the escalation.

6 - Saudi Arabia is holding discussions to freeze the membership of Qatar in the Gulf Cooperation Council and the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in the event of continued intransigence.

7 - Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are ready to impose more sanctions on Qatar in case of continued intransigence.

8 - Saudi Arabia rejects any foreign mediation and confirmed that the subject is a Gulf - Gulf matter.


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Reuters quoted sources in the Qatari government as confirming that the grain supply in the markets is only four weeks long, revealing the start of negotiations with Turkey and Iran to secure food supplies.