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Saudi preacher says Women 'provoke men to rape and harass them'.

would you 'come to your senses' and agree with his view if he slaps you? :)

He does that ..
We fight like cat n dog all the time .
What did u think ? He is some innocent little puppy.. aww ?? hes a little devil ,
Was telling me to not use internet and stop going out of home ... rakh di 3,4 chamaaten .. phr ja k sudhra ..
 
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He does that ..
We fight like cat n dog all the time .
What did u think ? He is some innocent little puppy.. aww ?? hes a little devil ,
Was telling me to not use internet and stop going out of home ... rakh di 3,4 chamaaten .. phr ja k sudhra ..
oh I thought you are a bossy elder sister.. not much age gap then...
 
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* Dressing of a woman is directly proportional to it's influence on a man's desire.

* at the same time it is the woman's fault for dressing provocatively. At the end of the day, the pious will lower his gaze and control his urges whereas the moderate will be provoked and the absolute evil will be incited even more.

* The first woman was born to provide companionship to man.


Again, let the adults talk now.
Dude I really pity you, and genuinely feel sorry for the women in your life man!!
But hey, evolutionary development somehow missed you! You know, anomalies :)
 
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You argument revolves around a notion that only women in "Indecent/objectionable" clothes are raped which is contrary to data present. I specifically mentioned kids and infants for a reason yet you are trying to dilute a rapist's act by shifting the blame on victim.
Do not speak of logic when your basic understanding of rape is flawed. There is no binary here clothes are no clothes, only a rapist will find ways to rape his victim.
I'm outta here.


Dude no one is saying "only" women dressed indecently are raped. I'm saying they, and the so-called sexual revolution the powers seeking to control the world have brought through them are the reason for the most rapes of not only women who might not be dressed inappropriately but also those who are not and even kids.

Because everything starts with a spark, and these women ignite that spark and more and more men are born in a sexist society where its fine to see half-naked women roaming around and spend half day going after them. Be it on the streets or tv or movies or wherever.

And logically and Islamically, a woman who is dressed appropriately is less likely to attract negative attention towards her compared to a woman who is not. At the same time the half naked one is also responsible for negative attention towards a decent women and children.



If it was all about controlling the lusts of men on men's part. Then why would God in all His wisdom want women to be covered? And this is not just in Islam, but in Christianity and even Hinduism if they follow their Vedas which they don;t.
Because there are weak men out there who give in to their lusts, and these women lure them in to not only see them as an object but also those who seek respect.

You simply cant acquit the wrong attention seeking women of their responsibility of the corruption in society as well as you can;t acquit vile men.
 
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Here is a very simple answer, Homo-Sapien is a mammal , and stimuli for the male is generally visual ques so it is by Nature.

Ah, but do you realize that in other mammalian species, the females wear no clothes at all? Or the males, for that matter? In fact, that applies to reptilian species as well? And invertebrates? In fact, Homo Sapiens Sapiens (not a typo) are the only species that wears any amount of clothing!

"Appeal to nature" is a logical fallacy.
 
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Looks like our Imam hasn't been reading his Qu'ran

We'll if he's aligned with Quran than its no news.
Trust me all bad news related to Saudi you can find publicized here on this forum.
There is so much more negative news about Iran, which they always delete if some one post by mistake.
 
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Here we go agaaaaain :partay:

I know right

We'll if he's aligned with Quran than its no news.
Trust me all bad news related to Saudi you can find publicized here on this forum.
There is so much more negative news about Iran, which they always delete if some one post by mistake.

Thats because Iran usually involves Sectarian beliefs and I think that leads to a whole new debate etc
 
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Dude I really pity you, and genuinely feel sorry for the women in your life man!!
But hey, evolutionary development somehow missed you! You know, anomalies :)

If your concern is so because the women in your family wander around in clothes which a normal person would consider too revealing, immoral and immodest, and that you consider that evolution........than your family too has my sympathies. Because through the periscope of time I can see where the same evolution was 50 years ago and so I can imagine where it will lead your generations very soon.

But hey, it's eye candy for all the nice gents out there so go evolution!!

The people who cannot control their lust are the ones responsible no one else should be blamed. Period
Quranic verse commands men to lower their gaze irrespective of women's attire. Period

Is there any command for women in Quran?
 
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Is there any command for women in Quran?
Does it say women who should not follow command of "Modest" clothing are responsible for rape?
Does it say men should rape women if they don't follow the divine order?
 
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Does it say women who should not follow command of "Modest" clothing are responsible for rape?
Does it say men should rape women if they don't follow the divine order?

Yes it says women who do not follow the command of modest clothing are responsible for lustful eyes falling on them. They are "more sinful" for putting up the show first and every eye that sees them, they get a sin for that.
And they are responsible for every wrong act that happens while they are doing so and not only them but if a child or modestly dressed women faces mis behavior then still women who didnt dress modestly are responsible.


And what you don;t get in this whole thing is it's the pious men who will not look at a woman, and its the pious woman who will dress modestly.
So when a woman so hell-bent on displaying her curves and disrespecting her own self, puts up a show and roams around half naked, she will attract the eyes of non-pious men. And it's those non-pious men who also rape women and children and whoever.

So isn't it logical to not dress in a way to not attract the eyes of savages in the first place as Quran clearly explains?


You, my friend, need to study Islam and Quran before trying to modify or taking only what suits your mindset. Either you follow it as what it is or you don't...there is no in between...
 
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