Saudi Navy to Hold Gulf Shield 1 Exercises

[raptor22]

@alarabi

Look at how angry and obsessive Iranians get when that small and shallow body of water is not called what they want it to be called. Despite the fact that their Greek conquerors gave the name of that small shallow water and despite the fact that much older civilizations and cultures (almost all Semitic) in the Arab world such as Dilmun (KSA, Bahrain and Eastern Arabia in general) , Sumer (Southern Iraq and Kuwait), Magan (Oman) etc. bordered that small shallow body of water millennia before anything such as Iran even existed as an entity.

It is like they think that they own this small shallow body of water despite them being the only non-Arab country bordering that water and despite the Arab countries having much longer sea borders along that small shallow body of water.

Anyway since they have no other body of water named after them, I believe that we 500 million Arabs, should not bully them by changing the "official" name as it clearly pains them a lot.

Anyway even their official name in Farsi of that small shallow body of water contains an Arabic name. Khalij e Fars.

Especially as we have an entire OCEAN named after us (Arabian Sea) and literary dozens upon dozens of other bodies of water be it seas or gulfs. Or the fact that the Arabian Peninsula is the largest peninsula in the world, that half of the Mediterranean Sea is bordered by Arab states, that the Arab world has sea borders that are over 50.000 km long etc. From the Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea to the Arabian/Sea/Indian Ocean.


No coastline, the Arabian Sea is a small shallow body of water as well.

I mean they already border the Sea of Oman and the wider Arabian Sea.

So from now on we should call Iran an Sea of Oman country or an Arabian Sea country. Let the midget bark is my point here.



As if that threat only works as a one-way street. Silly internet warriors as usual.

Also many of the Arabs in Iran live along the Gulf and the other part is Baloch although those guys actually border the Sea of Oman.

Farsis on the other hand traditionally lived in the arid and sparsely populated center of Iran.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Oman

Anyway let them call the Arabian Sea for the Iranian Sea. Let us see how many pfucks Arabs will give. None at all. I suspect that many Arabs do not even know that we have a big sea called the Arabian sea to begin with let alone other dozens of seas named after areas in the Arab world.







It was a small exercise. Nothing like those seen in the past few years which were the largest in the MENA region and Muslim world.

Buddy you are right there is a water way by the name of Arabian sea and Iranian never tried to change it to something like Persian sea desperately as you've done by Persian gulf in the past 50 years .. we've respected that name I dunno why you wanna change a historical name that internationally recognized by the UN and all countries even you as an Arab have been using it .....
Yeap the name "Persian gulf/sea" was given to this water way by Greek and Romans and it just show how they were civilized that despite disputes and wars taking place amongst us they didn't what you are doing now ....
And in fact we earned this name , Persian navy was strongest navy back then:

In May of the next year (480 BCE), Xerxes and his immense army left Sardis and headed north to the Hellespont (a waterway at the head of the Aegean that was nearly a mile wide at its narrowest and separated Asia Minor from Europe). There, the Persian navy joined the King and, in order to facilitate the crossing, Xerxes' engineers had huge ropes constructed which they used to tie old ships together in a straight line across the narrow waters. Then they built a road over the top of these ships, in Herodotus' words, "paving the sea."a unique pair of bridges with hundreds of vessels ranged side by side.
Xeres built two of these bridges, using 360 ships to cross a stretch a mile and a quarter wide and 314 vessels at a narrower crossing. So gigantic was his army that its horses trampled across the two highways for a week.

After thousands years still this strategy is used by all armies around world ... now tell me when and where you've had such a navy that makes your enemy to name a water way after you ?
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[Al-Andalus]

Buddy you are right there is a water way by the name of Arabian sea and Iranian never tried to change it to something like Persian sea desperately as you've done by Persian gulf in the past 50 years .. we've respected that name I dunno why you wanna change a historical name that internationally recognized by the UN and all countries even you as an Arab have been using it .....
Yeap the name "Persian gulf/sea" was given to this water way by Greek and Romans and it just show how they were civilized that despite disputes and wars taking place amongst us they didn't what you are doing now ....
And in fact we earned this name , Persian navy was strongest navy back then:

In May of the next year (480 BCE), Xerxes and his immense army left Sardis and headed north to the Hellespont (a waterway at the head of the Aegean that was nearly a mile wide at its narrowest and separated Asia Minor from Europe). There, the Persian navy joined the King and, in order to facilitate the crossing, Xerxes' engineers had huge ropes constructed which they used to tie old ships together in a straight line across the narrow waters. Then they built a road over the top of these ships, in Herodotus' words, "paving the sea."a unique pair of bridges with hundreds of vessels ranged side by side.
Xeres built two of these bridges, using 360 ships to cross a stretch a mile and a quarter wide and 314 vessels at a narrower crossing. So gigantic was his army that its horses trampled across the two highways for a week.

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After thousands years still this strategy is used by all armies around world ... now tell me when and where you've had such a navy that makes your enemy to name a water way after you ?
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Not only the Arabian Sea but dozens upon dozens of gulfs and waters derive their names from Arab localities and names in the Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic Ocean, Red Sea, Indian Ocean etc . You border two alone.

I do not care about the name of that small shallow body of water. People can call it whatever they like to. That body of water was called something else by the native civilizations (I have mentioned a few) that bordered it millennia before anything called Iran existed.

So you take pride in your conqueror naming a body of water? OK.

Do you think that history began 2500 years ago? Ever heard about the Semitic Phoenicians and the Phoenician Empire who were the first naval power in the world? Who basically colonized the entire Mediterranean Sea and nearby seas, mainly the Red Sea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia



BTW, Phoenicians like all other Semitic peoples, originated from Arabia.

As for having small shallow bodies of water named after you by conquerors or enemies, is nothing new or any achievement whatsoever.

Europeans, Africans and Indians (at various times enemies of Arabs, at other times friends) named an entire sea after the Arabs. The Arabian Sea. Because Arabs controlled the Indian Ocean and Arabian Sea trade for millennia and until the 14th century when the Portuguese arrived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_Route

The reason why Europeans wanted to discover a way to India/South East Asia was due to the Arab monopoly of this trade.

Even in more recent centuries, Oman, was the main seapower in the Middle East along with the Ottoman Empire.





As for navies in old times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Byzantine_wars



Green is Arab. Never had the Iranians such a big navy or this much control of the Mediterranean Sea or control of such a long coastline. From the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean.

Anyway we saw who trolled here (your compatriots) and I for once do not care if Iranians call the Arabian Sea for the Iranian Sea. Seas have different names in different languages. For instance the Gulf was (not sure if that is still the case) named the Gulf of Basra.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/20/opinion/it-s-really-the-sumerian-gulf.html

I just find it really funny. Your reactions. As if you owned that small shallow body of water, despite most of the territorial waters being in the control of Arabs, and if Arabs had no coastline or entire seas (!) and numerous gulfs etc. named after them in at least 4-5 seas. Unlike Iranians who only have that body of water named after them. Frankly it is quite hilarious. Besides as a Hijazi I care more about the Red Sea and nearby Mediterranean Sea.

By the way the Red Sea was called Sinus Arabicus even in pre-Islamic times. However today it is called the Red Sea and nobody cares. I certainly do not. And the Red Sea is not only the only tropical sea this far north but also one of the most beautiful seas by far. Home to 1000's of tropical islands and the second largest coral reef in the world after the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. One of the most strategically important bodies of water and one of the most busy as well in terms of trade. If not for oil or gas, the Gulf in comparison would be close to irrelevant in comparison.

 

[raptor22]

Not only the Arabian Sea but dozens upon dozens of gulfs and waters derive their names from Arab localities and names in the Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic Ocean, Red Sea, Indian Ocean etc . You border two alone.

I do not care about the name of that small shallow body of water. People can call it whatever they like to. That body of water was called something else by the native civilizations (I have mentioned a few) that bordered it millennia before anything called Iran existed.

So you take pride in your conqueror naming a body of water? OK.

Do you think that history began 2500 years ago? Ever heard about the Semitic Phoenicians and the Phoenician Empire who were the first naval power in the world? Who basically colonized the entire Mediterranean Sea and nearby seas, mainly the Red Sea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia



BTW, Phoenicians like all other Semitic peoples, originated from Arabia.

As for having small shallow bodies of water named after you by conquerors or enemies, is nothing new or any achievement whatsoever.

Europeans, Africans and Indians (at various times enemies of Arabs, at other times friends) named an entire sea after the Arabs. The Arabian Sea. Because Arabs controlled the Indian Ocean and Arabian Sea trade for millennia and until the 14th century when the Portuguese arrived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_Route

The reason why Europeans wanted to discover a way to India/South East Asia was due to the Arab monopoly of this trade.

Even in more recent centuries, Oman, was the main seapower in the Middle East along with the Ottoman Empire.





As for navies in old times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Byzantine_wars



Green is Arab. Never had the Iranians such a big navy or this much control of the Mediterranean Sea or control of such a long coastline. From the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean.

Anyway we saw who trolled here (your compatriots) and I for once do not care if Iranians call the Arabian Sea for the Iranian Sea. Seas have different names in different languages. For instance the Gulf was (not sure if that is still the case) named the Gulf of Basra.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/20/opinion/it-s-really-the-sumerian-gulf.html

I just find it really funny. Your reactions. As if you owned that small shallow body of water, despite most of the territorial waters being in the control of Arabs, and if Arabs had no coastline or entire seas (!) and numerous gulfs etc. named after them in at least 4-5 seas. Unlike Iranians who only have that body of water named after them. Frankly it is quite hilarious. Besides as a Hijazi I care more about the Red Sea and nearby Mediterranean Sea.

By the way the Red Sea was called Sinus Arabicus even in pre-Islamic times. However today it is called the Red Sea and nobody cares. I certainly do not. And the Red Sea is not only the only tropical sea this far north but also one of the most beautiful seas by far. Home to 1000's of tropical islands and the second largest coral reef in the world after the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. One of the most strategically important bodies of water and one of the most busy as well in terms of trade. If not for oil or gas, the Gulf in comparison would be close to irrelevant in comparison.

You say it's not important and you call it something else locally while all maps published in Arab world/ Greek/ Roman/ Spanish/Ottmon and even English maps till 50 years ago have always called this water way Persian gulf... it's you that have tried to change it unlike us that never tried to call what named after our Arab brothers something else ... by the way if you don't care as you mentioned then let's call it what all historians have always called it and also the name that is recognized by international community .. Persian gulf ....

 

[Al-Andalus]

You say it's not important and you call it something else locally while all maps published in Arab world/ Greek/ Roman/ Spanish/Ottmon and even English maps till 50 years ago have always called this water way Persian gulf... it's you that have tried to change it unlike us that never tried to call what named after our Arab brothers something else ... by the way if you don't care as you mentioned then let's call it what all historians have always called it and also the name that is recognized by international community .. Persian gulf ....

You seem not to understand that this "always" never existed in the first place. Civilizations native to Southern Iraq and Eastern Arabia (border regions) that predate the notion of Iran by millennia called this small shallow body of water different names. The Ottomans called it the Gulf of Basra. Others called it the Arab Gulf.

As far as this case goes, I do not care, and I will call it what I want to and I suggest that everyone else should do the same. As for Iranians, they can call all the dozens of seas and waters whose names derive from Arab localities or words/names for what they want to as well. Starting with the Arabian Sea. I won't care.

Arabs are not your brothers. Only a tiny minority of brainwashed Iraqi Shia and Lebanese Arabs consider you as brothers. Nobody else.

Lastly this thread has nothing to do with this irrelevant discussion nor do you own the Gulf. I will repeat myself once again and state that Arab states control most of the territorial waters and coastline and most of the Arabs in Iran live along its shores as well. Coastal civilizations in Eastern Arabia also predate those found across the coast so another reason for calling it the Arabian Gulf. Aside from annoying you since you only have this small body of water named after you unlike Arabs. So that is why you care this much.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Anyway let them call the Arabian Sea for the Iranian Sea.

We don't need to, because we don't use fake names.

More tactical brilliance from the Saudi armed forces... how can you not see this entire "exercise" was for the cameras? You're blinded by your "Arab stronk" rhetoric

Arabs are not your brothers. Only a tiny minority of brainwashed Iraqi Shia and Lebanese Arabs consider you as brothers. Nobody else.

Sectarian mindset... I can't say I'm not surprised...

 

[raptor22]

We don't need to, because we don't use fake names.


More tactical brilliance from the Saudi armed forces... how can you not see this entire "exercise" was for the cameras? You're blinded by your "Arab stronk" rhetoric



Sectarian mindset... I can't say I'm not surprised...

I tried to reason with him but I am done right now once I saw this post:

I believe that we should follow the great hero and martyr Ali Hassan Abd-al-Majid al-Tikriti's brilliant example and use chemical weapons on terrorist strongholds. As he used on Kurdish and Iranian terrorists.

Give us chemical engineers the right projects and chemical weapons can be mass-produced quite easily. What better than testing such weapons on terrorist strongholds and enemies in general?

 

[AmirPatriot]

I tried to reason with him but I am done right now once I saw this post:

Yeah, in another thread he's gone full Nazi...

What the hell should we do with these Wahhabis? Not only are they racist, sectarian nazis but now they want to use chemical weapons. Numerous generals went to Ayatollah Khomeini several times to ask him to develop nukes and chemical weapons to counter Saddam, every time he refused. If we're not going to sink down to their pathetic level, we have to arm our conventional forces to the teeth. So when they do make a mistake, they are humiliated.

 

[SOHEIL]

Self confidence !!!

In reality you can't even secure your airspace from Iranian drones

Anyway I do not like to engage with Wilayat al-Faqih drones.

Good for u Al-Hassani...

Don't engage with Wilayat al-Faqih drones !

It's not healthy

Try harder & create more accounts... Then you can get more :

 

[raptor22]

Yeah, in another thread he's gone full Nazi...

What the hell should we do with these Wahhabis? Not only are they racist, sectarian nazis but now they want to use chemical weapons. Numerous generals went to Ayatollah Khomeini several times to ask him to develop nukes and chemical weapons to counter Saddam, every time he refused. If we're not going to sink down to their pathetic level, we have to arm our conventional forces to the teeth. So when they do make a mistake, they are humiliated.

Once upon time they brought, combined and gathered all they had and supported a maniac by the name of Saddam ,in aftermath we all witnessed not only how they failed miserably but they had no option but to punish and tame the same mad dog they trained once he attacked Kuwait ...

By the way they don't have the audacity to make that mistakes ... it would be so painful for them ..

 

[AmirPatriot]

they don't have the audacity to make that mistakes

But they have the stupidity...

 

[raptor22]

But they have the stupidity...

And any stupidity has its own consequences ....they are counting on the USA otherwise themselves ain't considered a power.

 

[Al-Andalus]

Once upon time they brought, combined and gathered all they had and supported a maniac by the name of Saddam ,in aftermath we all witnessed not only how they failed miserably but they had no option but to punish and tame the same mad dog they trained once he attacked Kuwait ...

By the way they don't have the audacity to make that mistakes ... it would be so painful for them ..

If the Arab world really had gathered together in order to support Saddam Hussein with more than just a few symbolic billion dollars (nothing) and the international community would not have meddled, there would simply be no Iran today. At least no Wilayat al-Faqih Mullahs in power. Due to rivalries, you had crucial support from Syria, Libya alone, let alone Israel and the West who wanted to prolong the war.

As for conquering, we already did that almost 1500 years ago and changed Iran profoundly and forever. Changes that have been felt religiously, culturally, linguistically, demographically, genetically etc. for the past 1500 years.

Comparing the firepower of the GCC alone, let alone the entire Arab world that has a population of almost 500 million (which will only grow and keeps growing much faster than the population of Iran, I suspect that KSA will have a bigger population than Iran in a few generations time) and which is 10 times bigger than Iran, is laughable at best.

Yeah, in another thread he's gone full Nazi...

What the hell should we do with these Wahhabis? Not only are they racist, sectarian nazis but now they want to use chemical weapons. Numerous generals went to Ayatollah Khomeini several times to ask him to develop nukes and chemical weapons to counter Saddam, every time he refused. If we're not going to sink down to their pathetic level, we have to arm our conventional forces to the teeth. So when they do make a mistake, they are humiliated.

What is "Nazi" about wanting the total destruction of Wilayat al-Faqih slaves, terrorists and traitors within the Arab world? Absolutely nothing. It is a religious, moral, ethical, logical and patriotic duty. Do you think that Nazis were the first ones to deal harshly with their enemies?

Yes and if not for the West/Israel Libya and Iraq alone would have developed nuclear weapons. Several other Arab states too. Likewise KSA if there would have been a political push for this 40-50 years ago. It's really not that big of an achievement.

As for chemical weapons, I support its use on terrorist strongholds after giving such strongholds sufficient time for evacuation and for surrender.

Many chemical weapons are more "humane" than mass bombings.

And any stupidity has its own consequences ....they are counting on the USA otherwise themselves ain't considered a power.

People from modern-day KSA created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history. More than any other ethnic group. Over 1 millennia before anything called USA existed. KSA is and will remain a regional power whose power will only increase. Don't forget that you are talking about a country almost 1.5 times bigger than your entity alone.

 

[Osman Pamukoglu]

And any stupidity has its own consequences ....they are counting on the USA otherwise themselves ain't considered a power.

And who considers Iran a power?

 

[AmirPatriot]

100% of Al-Hitler's posts can be summed up in: Arab stronk, kill safavid shia, persia weak.

Just mindless

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

@Al-Andalus


Iraq's main financial backers were the oil-rich Persian Gulf states, most notably Saudi Arabia ($30.9 billion), Kuwait ($8.2 billion), and the United Arab Emirates ($8 billion). In all, Iraq received $35 billion in loans from the West and between $30 and $40 billion from the Persian Gulf states during the 1980s.

40 billions support for saddam in 1980-1988!!! from arab warriors, is equal to how many billions now?
The rest of your nonsense is not worth to be discussed.