Saudi Navy to Hold Gulf Shield 1 Exercises

[Al-Andalus]

@Al-Andalus


Iraq's main financial backers were the oil-rich Persian Gulf states, most notably Saudi Arabia ($30.9 billion), Kuwait ($8.2 billion), and the United Arab Emirates ($8 billion). In all, Iraq received $35 billion in loans from the West and between $30 and $40 billion from the Persian Gulf states during the 1980s.

40 billions support for saddam in 1980-1988!!! from arab warriors, is equal to how many billions now?
The rest of your nonsense is not worth to be discussed.

You received support from Arab countries such as Syria and Libya. Especially Libya supported you with billions. You received support from Israel and the West as well.

This is absolutely false data. Besides even if we imagine that this number is true it was only a symbolic number back then and even is so today. I imagine that Iran has surpassed this number during their engagement in Syria alone let alone their 13 year old engagement in Iraq.

What I wrote is the absolute truth and logical as well. Besides nobody is interested in invading anybody or ganging up on anybody. It was your very own compatriots that trolled a simple thread about a small naval exercise and turned it into nonsense.

Also what were we supposed to do? Support a hostile regime against an fellow neighboring Arab country? As if Iran would not support Tajikistan for instance against say Uzbekistan. Especially if Uzbekistan bordered Iran and was led by a hostile regime that wanted to take over KSA in order to control the Two Holy Mosques so they could cement their role as guardians, protectors and leaders of the Muslim world.

The Arab world is 10 times bigger than Iran. The size of Russia. Stretching from the Atlantic Ocean in the West to the Arabian Sea in the East and from the Mediterranean in the North to the Indian Ocean in the South (Comoros). KSA alone is 1.5 times bigger than Iran and Arabia over twice as big. Why in the god world would we need to invade Iran? We have almost 500 million people and that number will grow a lot in the coming generations. We do not lack more people either. More people (almost 15 million more) live along the Nile in Egypt (very small geographic area) alone than all of Iran.

It is the Wilayat al-Faqih supporters among Iranians that want to mass-murder every single Arab, even Iranian Arabs that live in Iran peacefully.

 

[AmirPatriot]

It is the Wilayat al-Faqih supporters among Iranians that want to mass-murder every single Arab

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

You received support from Arab countries such as Syria and Libya. Especially Libya supported you with billions. You received support from Israel and the West as well.

This is absolutely false data. Besides even if we imagine that this number is true it was only a symbolic number back then and even is so today. I imagine that Iran has surpassed this number during their engagement in Syria alone let alone their 13 year old engagement in Iraq.

What I wrote is the absolute truth and logical as well. Besides nobody is interested in invading anybody or ganging up on anybody. It was your very own compatriots that trolled a simple thread about a small naval exercise and turned it into nonsense.

Also what were we supposed to do? Support a hostile regime against an fellow neighboring Arab country? As if Iran would not support Tajikistan for instance against say Uzbekistan. Especially if Uzbekistan bordered Iran and was led by a hostile regime that wanted to take over KSA in order to control the Two Holy Mosques so they could cement their role as guardians, protectors and leaders of the Muslim world.

The Arab world is 10 times bigger than Iran. The size of Russia. Stretching from the Atlantic Ocean in the West to the Arabian Sea in the East and from the Mediterranean in the North to the Indian Ocean in the South (Comoros). KSA alone is 1.5 times bigger than Iran and Arabia over twice as big. Why in the god world would we need to invade Iran?

I'm not denying that Iran got help from powefull countries like North Korea, Libya, Syria and Israel (as middleman because of hostages in Lebanon) in those days, but facts are facts. I can help you with 1 dollar but someone else could help you with 10000 dollars. Is 1 dollar equal to 10000 dollars? clearly not. I don't say saudi did good or wrong with helping saddam, however facts are facts.
King of saudi arabia told saddam smash the persians and also told USA to cut the head of the snake, so you do have a reason to invade or attack Iran.

 

[Al-Andalus]

I'm not denying that Iran got help from powefull countries like North Korea, Libya, Syria and Israel (as middleman because of hostages in Lebanon) in those days, but facts are facts. I can help you with 1 dollar but someone else could help you with 10000 dollars. Is 1 dollar equal to 10000 dollars? clearly not. I don't say saudi did good or wrong with helping saddam, however facts are facts.
King of saudi arabia told saddam smash the persians and also told USA to cut the head of the snake, so you do have a reason to invade or attack Iran.

So since you admit Arab regime support to Iran (Libya and Syria) then we cannot talk about any Arab front against Iran. The reality is that no Arab country other than Iraq was involved in that war aside from financial donations to Iraq from a few Arab countries. So when Iranians talk about "Arabs" having tried to invade Iran, it is like if they were inventing new history that never occurred.

As I wrote before, if the Arab world had ganged up on Iran there would be no Mullah's today however back then that was not a realistic thing as it was a regional war between two states and not an Arab-Iran war.

From 1980-1988 there could have potentially arrived millions upon millions of Arab volunteers (more than there were people in Iran) and changed the entire cause of that war without giving any single dollar.

That supposed donation (which was not that big) was given in order for Iraq to be able to defend itself not to invade anyone. What Saddam used or did afterwards was not in the hands of anyone. Same story with what was donated to Iran.

King Abdullah made one such comment and was talking about the Iranian Mullah's. I am 100% sure that the Iranian regime has said likewise about various Arab regimes to the Russians and other leaders. In fact they are saying this today and vice versa. Your foreign minister recently called the international community to boycott KSA and remove its rulers. Exact same thing.

In fact this whole thing about wanting to remove rulers of other countries was first started by Khomeini who wanted to remove every monarchy in the region and every regime that did not follow/agree with him. Whether it was Sadat in Egypt, Saddam in Iraq or the monarchies of the Arab world. From Morocco to Oman.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Khomeini who wanted to remove every monarchy in the region

He said monarchies are not a legitimate form of government (which they aren't), I wonder why he said that?

Funny that Iraq that attacked us wasn't even a monarchy so cut your crap. Iran never said it was going to attack any country.

 

[Al-Andalus]

He said monarchies are not a legitimate form of government (which they aren't), I wonder why he said that?

Funny that Iraq that attacked us wasn't even a monarchy so cut your crap. Iran never said it was going to attack any country.

Well, it seems to me, based on this photo alone, that the Shah of Iran was the only monarch in the region, who lived in some medieval fantasy world based on his attire! Never seen such a photo of any Arab monarch. The only one I can think that comes even close is the Sultan of Oman. This is despite the fact that Arab monarchs were and are even richer than the Shah was.

I guess this had something to do with him being the son of an officer (from a peasant family) who proclaimed himself as a Shah less than 90 years ago while Arab dynasties are several centuries old, in some cases almost 1 millennia.

Who are you kidding? Your beloved Khomeini was calling for the removal of all pro-Western regimes in the Muslim world and since Iran is a neighbor of the Arab world and mostly has focused its entire existence on the West (West as in areas West of Iran) since its existence then this was aimed at rulers in the Arab world whether they were monarchs or not. It seems that you do not know your own history.

Read up on his criticism/opposition/hostility towards leaders such as Sadat in Egypt, Saddam and Arab monarchies obviously.

I am sure that your compatriot @Shapur Zol Aktaf will agree with what I have written because this is common knowledge. This policy has not changed even today.

 

[AmirPatriot]

arab stronk

Read up on his criticism/opposition/hostility towards leaders such as Sadat in Egypt, Saddam and Arab monarchies obviously.

persia weak
gas rafidi

We openly criticise anyone we like. But we haven't started any war for centuries. Last war we had was against the Saudi crony Saddam who gassed lots of "Wilayat al-Faqih terrorists":

Keep it going Al-Hitler... soon you can gas all the shia persian rafidi.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

So since you admit Arab regime support to Iran (Libya and Syria) then we cannot talk about any Arab front against Iran. The reality is that no Arab country other than Iraq was involved in that war aside from financial donations to Iraq from a few Arab countries. So when Iranians talk about "Arabs" having tried to invade Iran, it is like if they were inventing new history that never occurred.

As I wrote before, if the Arab world had ganged up on Iran there would be no Mullah's today however back then that was not a realistic thing as it was a regional war between two states and not an Arab-Iran war.

From 1980-1988 there could have potentially arrived millions upon millions of Arab volunteers (more than there were people in Iran) and changed the entire cause of that war without giving any single dollar.

That supposed donation (which was not that big) was given in order for Iraq to be able to defend itself not to invade anyone. What Saddam used or did afterwards was not in the hands of anyone. Same story with what was donated to Iran.

King Abdullah made one such comment and was talking about the Iranian Mullah's. I am 100% sure that the Iranian regime has said likewise about various Arab regimes to the Russians and other leaders. In fact they are saying this today and vice versa. Your foreign minister recently called the international community to boycott KSA and remove its rulers. Exact same thing.

In fact this whole thing about wanting to remove rulers of other countries was first started by Khomeini who wanted to remove every monarchy in the region and every regime that did not follow/agree with him. Whether it was Sadat in Egypt, Saddam in Iraq or the monarchies of the Arab world. From Morocco to Oman.

Well, it seems to me, based on this photo alone, that the Shah of Iran was the only monarch in the region, who lived in some medieval fantasy world based on his attire! Never seen such a photo of any Arab monarch. The only one I can think that comes even close is the Sultan of Oman. This is despite the fact that Arab monarchs were and are even richer than the Shah was.

I guess this had something to do with him being the son of an officer (from a peasant family) who proclaimed himself as a Shah less than 90 years ago while Arab dynasties are several centuries old, in some cases almost 1 millennia.

Who are you kidding? Your beloved Khomeini was calling for the removal of all pro-Western regimes in the Muslim world and since Iran is a neighbor of the Arab world and mostly has focused its entire existence on the West (West as in areas West of Iran) since its existence then this was aimed at rulers in the Arab world whether they were monarchs or not. It seems that you do not know your own history.

Read up on his criticism/opposition/hostility towards leaders such as Sadat in Egypt, Saddam and Arab monarchies obviously.

I am sure that your compatriot @Shapur Zol Aktaf will agree with what I have written because this is common knowledge. This policy has not changed even today.

Long before khomeini, saddam and his mates called for genocide against persians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Whom_God_Should_Not_Have_Created:_Persians,_Jews,_and_Flies

So I don't agree with you putting all the blames on khomeini.

 

[alarabi]

More pictures from Arabian Gulf Shield Exercises.

I hope the best for Arabian Gulf Guardians and I hope other GCC's contribute more in securing Arabian Gulf from any terrorist threat.

 

[Blackmoon]

More pictures from Persian Gulf Shield Exercises.

I hope the best for Persian Gulf Guardians and I hope other GCC's contribute more in securing Persian Gulf from any terrorist threat.

Same way they "liberated sanaa" & "brought back legitimacy" in Yemen ? now they wanna secure Persian gulf from "threats" ?

 

[SOHEIL]

Friendly advice:

Don't stay on those moving targets (ships) if war alert started !!!

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Even though nothing bad will take place during the ex., I would like to say that Unlike Arabs, Mullahs cannot sustain a war due to shortage of sources, call it human, weapon, money etc.; plus Mullahs' threat with proxy will not work on Arabs, for The Arabs are familiar and at some point master of proxy when it comes to that point.(Not counting other factors.)

 

[Rukarl]

Even though nothing bad will take place during the ex., I would like to say that Unlike Arabs, Mullahs cannot sustain a war due to shortage of sources, call it human, weapon, money etc.; plus Mullahs' threat with proxy will not work on Arabs, for The Arabs are familiar and at some point master of proxy when it comes to that point.(Not counting other factors.)

What are you blabbering about Mongol?

These Persian gulf arabs are even more reliant on imports than you turks
Iran is a about a billion time more self sufficient than they are and can easily engage in long term warfare whereas these PGCC can't even make bullets and rely totally on imports. Furthermore, all it would take is a few missile to wipe out their oil facilities and they're finished. They have little to no capability to actually wage a war against Iran.

Also they're masters of proxy in the same way your turks are. I.e supporting likes of ISIS and in the end they turn around and bite them back in the face. In reality, Iran is the master here.

Everything you said is basically the opposite.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

What are you blabbering about Mongol?

These Persian gulf arabs are even more reliant on imports than you turks
Iran is a about a billion time more self sufficient than they are and can easily engage in long term warfare whereas these PGCC can't even make bullets and rely totally on imports. Furthermore, all it would take is a few missile to wipe out their oil facilities and they're finished. They have little to no capability to actually wage a war against Iran.

Also they're masters of proxy in the same way your turks are. I.e supporting likes of ISIS and in the end they turn around and bite them back in the face. In reality, Iran is the master here.

Everything you said is basically the opposite.

A map, calculator, current statistics in the modern world decide the result of any attempt.

You may cry a river on ego-feeding sentences, but in the end those decide the result.

 

[Faravahar]

Even though nothing bad will take place during the ex., I would like to say that Unlike Arabs, Mullahs cannot sustain a war due to shortage of sources, call it human, weapon, money etc.; plus Mullahs' threat with proxy will not work on Arabs, for The Arabs are familiar and at some point master of proxy when it comes to that point.(Not counting other factors.)

Mongoloid IQ

Nations like these Persian gulf arabs and turkey etc are in reality the ones that cannot sustain long term war as you're mostly reliant on importing from the outside world from everything to completely hardware to parts etc. Iran on the other hand can manufacture whatever it need internally and in a very fast time.

As for proxies. I have never heard anyone call these Persian gulf arabs as "master of proxies". When it comes to proxy warfare, they a joke. Much like your turks in this regard. We saw what happened with your support of ISIS etc.