Saudi defence minister to visit Pakistan

[Pandora]

Parliment in pak is like wex nose turn the way u want .Pak media and vibes r very Favourable at them so military attitude even in parliment its Geenlight

They want us to choose sides with them and most likely to withdraw diplomats from Iran. We cant afford another front which military will never allow in current situation. Saudis know our binds yet they are stupid enough to come and ask for help. From previous statements you see that Pakistan is not interested in Military adventures like saudis and iran.

 

[mingle]

Sorry .. No combat troops for Syria or Yemen..

Not for syria for sure we all know that its black hole but in yemen there r advisors Navel Air help in term of P3cs .Nobody is going syria neither saudis nor pak .

 

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[DESERT FIGHTER]

They want us to choose sides with them and most likely to withdraw diplomats from Iran. We cant afford another front which military will never allow in current situation. Saudis know our binds yet they are stupid enough to come and ask for help. From previous statements you see that Pakistan is not interested in Military adventures like saudis and iran.

Nawaz sharif is useless for Saudis .. No matter what they think... Security/defence policy rests with the "establishment"... Thanks to nawaz's own Fuk ups.

 

[mingle]

They want us to choose sides with them and most likely to withdraw diplomats from Iran. We cant afford another front which military will never allow in current situation. Saudis know our binds yet they are stupid enough to come and ask for help. From previous statements you see that Pakistan is not interested in Military adventures like saudis and iran.

I got a question for u here i hope u will answer it we saw saudi forgien ,Defence ministers here in pak so Qatar why dont we see any iranian FM or DF in pak dont u think they should lobby pak as well ?Explain theior side so help pak to make a better judgement ?

Sorry .. No combat troops for Syria or Yemen..

yemen is nothing like FATA.
Pak troops in KSA are advisors,trainers,instructors .. And Pak isn't involved in Yemen.

All roles start from trainers and advisors history is full with it next step is regular deployment step by step .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not for syria for sure we all know that its black hole but in yemen there r advisors Navel Air help in term of P3cs .Nobody is going syria neither saudis nor pak .

No "naval air help" is there.. Houthis are fighting in deserts and cities not in the Arabian Sea.

There is no Pak mil involved in Yemen operation ... We only have 1000 troops in KSA (mostly instructors and SSG-- others on deputation with Saudi mil).. Similiar to our troops in other brotherly Arab states.

I got a question for u here i hope u will answer it we saw saudi forgien ,Defence ministers here in pak so Qatar why dont we see any iranian FM or DF in pak dont u think they should lobby pak as well ?Explain theior side so help pak to make a better judgement ?


All roles start from trainers and advisors history is full with it next step is regular deployment step by step .

Thank you general.. I hope you know that the trainers and advisors weren't deployed yesterday ..! But have been stationed in the kingdom since decades.

 

[mingle]

No "naval air help" is there.. Houthis are fighting in deserts and cities not in the Arabian Sea.

There is no Pak mil involved in Yemen operation ... We only have 1000 troops in KSA (mostly instructors and SSG-- others on deputation with Saudi mil).. Similiar to our troops in other brotherly Arab states.



Thank you general.. I hope you know that the trainers and advisors weren't deployed yesterday ..! But have been stationed in the kingdom since decades.

Its more to do sea routes so shipping remain open plus kind od Navel blked ports of yemen .they got air asset and Navel assets from day one .

No "naval air help" is there.. Houthis are fighting in deserts and cities not in the Arabian Sea.

There is no Pak mil involved in Yemen operation ... We only have 1000 troops in KSA (mostly instructors and SSG-- others on deputation with Saudi mil).. Similiar to our troops in other brotherly Arab states.



Thank you general.. I hope you know that the trainers and advisors weren't deployed yesterday ..! But have been stationed in the kingdom since decades.

Well i am not Gen too young for that Job but i know history read it very well .All military roles start from trainers and advisors .pak fit the Saudi Bill for many reason from religion to culture ,history of close military ties ,trained Battle hardened ,plus alot cheaper than any european and american deployment .yaar its not that difficult to judge its written on the wall looks to me iran quit on us otherwise they should show in islamabad as well its very important for iran to keep pak neutral .keep watching u will upsurge troop deployment down the road towards saudia .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Its more to do sea routes so shipping remain open plus kind od Navel blked ports of yemen .they got air asset and Navel assets from day one .


Well i am not Gen too young for that Job but i know history read it very well .All military roles start from trainers and advisors .pak fit the Saudi Bill for many reason from religion to culture ,history of close military ties ,trained Battle hardened ,plus alot cheaper than any european and american deployment .

How insulting can sock puppets like you be towards their own country?

Do you know even US & EU have backed away from Saudi-Iran nonsense ?

And you are advocating "cheap" soldiers who fit the Saudi bill?

How old are you?

I got bad news for you.. PA don't give a shyt about secterian wars started for political BS! It's loyal to Pak and looks out for National interests rather than Saudi or Iranian @@@@

 

[Pandora]

I got a question for u here i hope u will answer it we saw saudi forgien ,Defence ministers here in pak so Qatar why dont we see any iranian FM or DF in pak dont u think they should lobby pak as well ?Explain theior side so help pak to make a better judgement ?


All roles start from trainers and advisors history is full with it next step is regular deployment step by step .

Just bcz they dont come for lobbying doesnt mean we should just side is the highest bidder. We destroyed our country by involving ourself with saudis. Our nation has no hate for shias and if you perhaps forgot 15-20% population is shia. If you conisder 200 million as rough estimate of our population then it makes upto 30 million shia population. Are you ready for a civil war just for pleasing bunch of arrogant saudis? Just as sunnis feel pain for every ill that befalls at other sunnis the same goes for shia. Every action has it repercussions so no need to be canon fodders for bunch of arrogant monarchs.

 

[mingle]

Just bcz they dont come for lobbying doesnt mean we should just side is the highest bidder. We destroyed our country by involving ourself with saudis. Our nation has no hate for shias and if you perhaps forgot 15-20% population is shia. If you conisder 200 million as rough estimate of our population then it makes upto 30 million shia population. Are you ready for a civil war just for pleasing bunch of arrogant saudis? Just as sunnis feel pain for every ill that befalls at other sunnis the same goes for shia. Every action has it repercussions so no need to be canon fodders for bunch of arrogant monarchs.

Its sad state of affairs but its irans job to engage pak if i am iran i will .Dont u think Iran should engage pak when we have good shia papulation numbers .

 

[Pandora]

Nawaz sharif is useless for Saudis .. No matter what they think... Security/defence policy rests with the "establishment"... Thanks to nawaz's own Fuk ups.

I dont even want to imagine our security policies in the hands of nawaz shareif. In short saudis are just shaking the wrong branch. Saudi defense ministers visit could be in that regard so that he can visit Raheel shareif. I wouldnt be surprised if he met military establishment on his tour. You can say foreign minister went back empty handed along with just nice words from nawaz shareif.

Its sad state of affairs but its irans job to engage pak if i am iran i will .Dont u think Iran should engage pak when we have good shia papulation numbers .

Iran knows Pakistan wont get involved a fact Saudis just cant comprehend. We should be celebrating bcz if Iranians get involved then both sides will turn Pakistan into another hell hole with secterian violence just like syria and iraq. Keep both of them at arms length if you want economic and social progress.

Iran and Saudis are like two viruses that will kill you from inside out. Find your own path rather than pledging allegiances to Nations who are not even worth it.

 

[mingle]

How insulting can sock puppets like you be towards their own country?

Do you know even US & EU have backed away from Saudi-Iran nonsense ?

And you are advocating "cheap" soldiers who fit the Saudi bill?

How old are you?

I got bad news for you.. PA don't give a shyt about secterian wars started for political BS! It's loyal to Pak and looks out for National interests rather than Saudi or Iranian @@@@

Dear Desert fighter sb i dont know how old r u ?when u use term fit the bill in west it meant something suit u not about money .its kind of slang to some sence .its not about puppet like me its about core interest of ur country my country pak .we should not ruin our relationship with GCC .in this modern world theior no morality neither ethics its about interests .u will see how govt decide they willing so the military establishment its more fit pak interest .I dont see any war between saudia and iran over sheikh Nimr excecution .pak cant stay neutral like it or not has to choose oneside u know which side they will go that why iran Quit on pak .pak should go a pact like thing with GCC which should be trade and investment plus military allience .pak should not take money its should go with trade and economics goes that way should be win win everybody in region .

I dont even want to imagine our security policies in the hands of nawaz shareif. In short saudis are just shaking the wrong branch. Saudi defense ministers visit could be in that regard so that he can visit Raheel shareif. I wouldnt be surprised if he met military establishment on his tour. You can say foreign minister went back empty handed along with just nice words from nawaz shareif.



Iran knows Pakistan wont get involved a fact Saudis just cant comprehend. We should be celebrating bcz if Iranians get involved then both sides will turn Pakistan into another hell hole with secterian violence just like syria and iraq. Keep both of them at arms length if you want economic and social progress.

Iran and Saudis are like two viruses that will kill you from inside out. Find your own path rather than pledging allegiances to Nations who are not even worth it.

I agree with u but issue here diplomacy where is iranian response againest Saudi blitz .

 

[Zarvan]

This is not for Yemen. They are quite happy in Yemen this is for Iraq to defeat ISIS and gain Sunni Support in both Iraq and Syria and indirectly keep Iran in check.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Dear Desert fighter sb i dont know how old r u ?when u use term fit the bill in west it meant something suit u not about money .its kind of slang to some sence .its not about puppet like me its about core interest of ur country my country pak

First learn to use capital letter when typing Pakistan.

Also it's mind boggling that you think fighting a useless secterian war for another country is somehow in our national interest... Tell me .. How is opening another front with Iran and most likely bringing secto political war home in the national interests of Pakistan ? The National Assembly & the Military themselves have already apologised to do this "kar e khair"... And talked about peaceful dialogue and negotiations between Iran & KSA!

We should not ruin our relationship with GCC

How is playing a mediator .. Ruining our relationship? KSA has relations with India too... Did that ruin the relationship?

.in this modern world theior no morality neither ethics its about interests .u will see how govt decide they willing so the military establishment its more fit pak interest

Devoid of any logic.

National Assembly and the military have already chosen not to intervene in a useless war.

.I dont see any war between saudia and iran over sheikh Nimr excecution .

Hain?

Pak will protect the Saudi soil... Sure.. But we won't fight another shitty useless war.

pak cant stay neutral like it or not has to choose oneside u know which side they will go t[/QUOTE
We have already taken a neutral stance.

hat why iran Quit on pak

Our relations with Iran are stable... Do you know Pak-Iran just signed an agreement on import of electricity and phase 2 of IPP? And declared Chabahar a sister port of Gwadar? Just yesterday.

.pak should go a pact like thing with GCC which should be trade and investment plus military allience .pak should not take money its should go with trade and economics goes that way should be win win everybody in region

So Pak should send troops to die in a useless war and than ask for trade & investment.. What the fk.

This is not for Yemen. They are quite happy in Yemen this is for Iraq to defeat ISIS and gain Sunni Support in both Iraq and Syria and indirectly keep Iran in check.

Sufi .. This is a war for power.. Such things are above your thought processes..

 

[Zarvan]

First learn to use capital letter when typing Pakistan.

Also it's mind boggling that you think fighting a useless secterian war for another country is somehow in our national interest... Tell me .. How is opening another front with Iran and most likely bringing secto political war home in the national interests of Pakistan ? The National Assembly & the Military themselves have already apologised to do this "kar e khair"... And talked about peaceful dialogue and negotiations between Iran & KSA!




How is playing a mediator .. Ruining our relationship? KSA has relations with India too... Did that ruin the relationship?



Devoid of any logic.

National Assembly and the military have already chosen not to intervene in a useless war.


Hain?

Pak will protect the Saudi soil... Sure.. But we won't fight another shitty useless war.

I know what is going on recent bomb blasts by ISIS inside KSA has pissed them of they know to defeat ISIS they have to put troops on ground that is why they are forming coalition they also want to reduce Iranian growing influence in Iraq and Syria