Saudi crown prince to visit Pakistan by end year

[chauvunist]

In real life most of the people i meet have extreme respect for arabs but when i came to this forum it was a surprise for me,anyhow when u have no where to cry internet is a better place for some people to shout.....

 

[Irfan Baloch]

In real life most of the people i meet have extreme respect for arabs but when i came to this forum it was a surprise for me,anyhow when u have no where to cry internet is a better place for some people to shout.....

reminds me of a poster that reads something like

"on internet you can be anyone you want. pitty that so many people choose to be stupid"

 

[Hyperion]

dude are u really a pakistani or false flagger because on number of ocassions i saw u liking indians posts bashing Dr abdul qadir khan and pak army...so what r u really

LOL dude. Is the following criteria of being a Pakistani?

1. Indian hater.
2. ISI lover.
3. Dr. Qadir lover
4. Army lover.
5. All of the above.

I'm a Pakistani no matter what. And who gave you the right to question if I'm a Pakistani or not? Please disengage from such silly questions before it gets dirty.

France and England in Europe who fought a war for 100 years and today they are closer than ever

Yara, who imparted that particular wisdom. The English and French don't much like each other

What we need is Saudi financial support and investment without their Wahhabism.

Man, I would even appreciate their blanket political support on all matters Pakistan. That's all we need.

Prepare your shoes.

.... to be kept safely?

For evening prayers?

and those of you who dont have such belief then please be forgiving and generous as the Mother nature or Holy Cow.

Point taken & the last sentence was epic

Apology to Arab members:

All arab members on this board, please accept my unconditional apology, if I ever hurt your sentiments unintentionally. Please try to understand, we're a nation full of varying mindsets, beliefs and religious orientations. We regularly debate, argue, fight freely amongst friends and sometimes even amongst our families for differing viewpoints. This is how we are built, free souls. However, that never means that we hate anyone for it. Please speak your mind, that is the only way we will get rid of our misunderstandings, and if on the way, the debates get heated, don't take it personally. You're all our brothers and sisters in the end. One things is for sure, we will always fight, but having the fortitude to look beyond our shortcomings and overcoming them, will definitely make us closer.

@Hype

 

[Skorpian]

I'll give you a simple answer fool. Want to feel the heat? Imagine being boxed by Israel, Turkey from the west and Iran and Pakistan in cooperation with Israel from the East.

All the trouble that stems our progress are Arab related, whether you like it or not. Imagine, being a friends to Israel, India and Iran, instead of you? Look at Turkeys progress, just because of following this policy.

By the way, war is imminent, don't be so hyped about the 'arab spring' and that what you achieved. There is a difference when foreign forces are shooting to kill in comparison to confused local police.

You Egyptian, will teach us a lesson? You couldn't even get rid of one 80 year old fat man for the better part your pathetic history after the pharaohs raped and pillaged you for generations.

Never EVER compare your kind to our people or lands. Kapeesh?



Tell me of ONE ARAB KILL of Israeli aircraft? Go back and enjoy the recent 'partial' freedom you got. Oooooops be careful, GIS maybe watching what you type. Hail to the president of EGG.ypt.


Now a quiz:

Question: Name one Arab country TRULY free from internal (kings, queens and jokers) and external (US, Russia and whatever) influences?

Your choices are:

A) None
B) None
C) None

Please go and place a few imaginary farts in protest to the above question to get rid of the eternal abdominal pain.

All trouble that came to Pakistan came from Arabs? Name some of those troubles.
Imagine being a friend to Israel and Iran ok, but to India? LOOOOOL. We're not the ones blocking a Pakistani-Indian friendship.
Oh and btw, we did get rid of the 80 year fat old man just in case you don't know. But you guys complain about your government and don't make a revolution like us and then come and insult us ( No offence to Pakistan, but whose house is made of glass doesn't throw stones )
ONE ARAB KILL OF ISRAELI AIRCRAFT? Really?! So, all the hundreds of the downed Israeli aircrafts were brought down by 16 pilots of Pakistan only? What are they, supermen?
And about the influence thingy, look who's talking. The guy whose country gets attacked by American drones whenever they want. And you call that a country without external influence? ( Still I mean no offence at all )
Oh btw.Thanks for the insult and flame words. You've been reported.

We trained you guys airforce.

You are contradicting yourself. First you said Pakistan doesnt provide nuclear shield to Arabia, and then you said Saudi Arabia is funding Pakistan's nuclear programme. So why Saudi funded Pakistan's nuclear program? To get a nuclear shield. Makes sense, no?

What contradiction? So if country X helps country Y with its nuclear weaponry program, does that force country Y to form a nuclear shield for country X?

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

I am glad that the moderators acted against offensive posts without me even having to report them, but since this thread has been successfully diverted from its original topic, I would like to make a couple of comments.

"Wahhabism" is a stupid term made up to insult Saudi Muslims in particular. Islam in Saudi Arabia is free from idolatry of all its different kinds whether it's in the form of visiting shrines or in the form of superstition. Members here would be aware that some people visit shrines in Pakistan, you will never witness that happening in Arabia. Granted; this was just a miniscule example, & I am not saying that Islam in modern Arabia is as pure as it was during the era of revelation, but it's certainly closer to original Islam than what is followed in Pakistan. Extremely conservative people do exist in Arabia, but it has more to do with "conservative" culture rather than religion.

A huge number of Pakistanis in my opinion lack good or accurate knowledge regarding religion. This misunderstanding leads to extremism & other stupidity. Combine that with the fact that some people in our country foolishly come under the influence of retarded mullahs who shouldn't be allowed to preach in the first place.

I would also advise other members to stop viewing any criticism as discrimination or racism, & learn to be more tolerant of different views. Another thing, foreigners here should stop generalizing all Pakistanis as being racists, that is definitely not true, & I can understand your evil intentions behind these foolish accusations pretty well. Cease & desist from making these dumb accusations or prepare to face my wrath. Racism is an issue facing every society on the planet, no nation is completely free of racism, this includes the nations of the Middle East & Pakistan too. As stated earlier, Pakistanis should stop blaming others for all the problems Pakistan faces today. The vast majority of the issues Pakistan faces today are purely indigenous in origins.

Getting back to the topic, I found a thesis discussing the relationship between Pakistan & Saudi Arabia. That thesis may be viewed on the link below.

http://prr.hec.gov.pk/Thesis/3100H.pdf

The author of the thesis claims to be a Saudi residing in Pakistan. I didn't get to read the entire document, but it seems to be an interesting read nonetheless.

 

[Hyperion]

Oh btw.Thanks for the insult and flame words. You've been reported.

I don't bow to intimidation of any sort. My writing and thought is clear of any ambiguity. Please see my last post.

Speak your mind freely on the forum. There is no one watching you here, nor will you be judged by any state machinery!

Cheers and enjoy the forum.

 

[Last Hope]

What on the earth is wrong with Pakistani posters?

You are degrading the reputation of Pakistanis in the Arabs which is extremely high as they all look towards Pakistan with respect. (Now please don't start to say that you least care what the Arabs have to think.) I do not hate the Arabs like many here do nor do I like them completely. Everyone has good and bad.

Saudi Arabia has helped Pakistani always as Pakistan has always helped Saudi Arabia especially in it's defenses and deploying Special Services force for them. The help Saudis have to give Pakistan is more important and strong than Chinese, honestly. They have provided us with free oil, with oil on long term loans, with financial assistance in nation building projects and probably the biggest, saying at our side and funding our Nuclear weapons development program when the world was on boycott.

And we just disgrace them by talking such nonsense?

The ties Saudis-Pakistanis (particularly) have must be strong for Pakistan until we finally stand on our own feet. Even after that, we mustn't abandon our old good friend. The Saudi crown Prince could come for many reasons and possibly Iran-Pakistan pipeline which I believe must be abandoned.

Following is backing to my claim:

The Iran-Pakistan pipeline will cost heavily for Pakistan, in many terms. The first and foremost, importing gas from a foreign country whereas you have the resources and huge reserves of natural gas which would cost less than 40% of the cost of Iran-Pakistan pipeline to extract, refine and supply. The Iran-Pakistan pipeline is political, and everyone knows Zardari family has personal links with Ahmadinejad. Not to mention the corruption in the project. Secondary, the pipeline would pass through Baluchistan which has history of pipelines being blown up. How do you expect to deal with that, continuous repairs to pipeline rising the cosst of project even further? Or by providing extra security personnel probably FC, and risking their lives (who are already being targeted by militants)? The Saudis wish this project drops for their rivalry with Iran, but I am against this project because I see just destruction to economy whereas there are better options available at table. Reason this being chosen, better chances of pocketing money.

 

[chauvunist]

LOL dude. Is the following criteria of being a Pakistani?

1. Indian hater.
2. ISI lover.
3. Dr. Qadir lover
4. Army lover.
5. All of the above.

I'm a Pakistani no matter what. And who gave you the right to question if I'm a Pakistani or not? Please disengage from such silly questions before it gets dirty.



Yara, who imparted that particular wisdom. The English and French don't much like each other



Man, I would even appreciate their blanket political support on all matters Pakistan. That's all we need.

.... to be kept safely?

For evening prayers?



Point taken & the last sentence was epic

Apology to Arab members:

All arab members on this board, please accept my unconditional apology, if I ever hurt your sentiments unintentionally. Please try to understand, we're a nation full of varying mindsets, beliefs and religious orientations. We regularly debate, argue, fight freely amongst friends and sometimes even amongst our families for differing viewpoints. This is how we are built, free souls. However, that never means that we hate anyone for it. Please speak your mind, that is the only way we will get rid of our misunderstandings, and if on the way, the debates get heated, don't take it personally. You're all our brothers and sisters in the end. One things is for sure, we will always fight, but having the fortitude to look beyond our shortcomings and overcoming them, will definitely make us closer.

@Hype

i have one Question for u....if you dont like your country's institutions,heros and any thing good regarding your country and you dont hate your's country enemies,how do you claim to be part of that country or have love or respect for your country....

 

[Arabian Legend]

wow, very surprising I didn't know both of us reached this level.. please guys for the sake of god abstain from insulting each other. pakistan is nothing without saudi arabia and saudi arabia is non with out pakistan we will not allow anyone to make any conflict among us. KSA and pakistan are two countries but one nation who are still holding each other and representing the islamic world.
I advise all of you guys to chill out, relax and please keep in mind that they are many enemies who are trying around the clock to brake the unbreakable relations and brotherhood of the two countries. don't leave them any chance to create sedition among us.
remember one last thing. we are on the holy month of Ramadan is that how we get closer to God? stop making other people laughing at us.

Peace

 

[Armstrong]

To the Arabs - I'm sorry ! We've got reservations about certain policies of your government but not against the Saudi People...never against them. I hear that the Government of KSA is doing a lot to clamp down on any 'fringe elements' who might finance some of these 'Jihadi Outfits' - commendable...keep it up ! We need to take out as many of these 'religious clerics' and their 'financiers' who corrupt the minds of the Muslim youth by teaching them a perverted dogma that involves them strapping a bomb to their chests and blowing themselves in the middle of a market/bazaar.

To the Pakistanis - Behave yourselves ! These Arabs, whatever your political disagreements with them might be, are our guests and they must be treated as such. Either way the moment 'Political Disagreements' translate to 'Racist assertions against an entire race of People', as regrettably it has in the past, you know that you're in the wrong. And yeah whatever we did for them has been repaid in full and kind by them, either way...it is wrong for one to boast as if we 'won the war for them' when we played only a small part.

To BlackEagle : So you finally lost it ! I told you you will. I'm guessing even the Mule Joke isn't going to work this time around. Sorry yaar...but be a bit gentle on Pakistan the next time for the sake of the rest of us Pakistanis - the overwhelming majority if you do ever have the chance to visit Pakistan.

P.S I echo the same confusion as some Pakistani members on PDF ! Before visiting PDF I didn't even know that there are Pakistanis out there who'd hold such negative sentiments about Arabs...for godsake we even have a soft spot for the Afghans - who've created a lot of problems for us - and why simply because they're Muslims. Either way I, at least, take some comfort in the knowledge that none of this 'hatred' or 'dislike' *choose your pick* is remotely echoed by the common Pakistani out on the street.

 

[Arabian Legend]

ISLAMABAD: Prince Fahad bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Governor of Tabuk called the President Tuesday evening and conveyed Ramadan greetings.

Reciprocating the gesture the President also conveyed his felicitations and best wishes on the commencement of the Holy month of Ramadan to the Prince Fahad bin Sultan, the Royal family and the people of Saudi Arabia and prayed that the holy month may bring peace, prosperity and joy to all.

The President also conveyed his greetings and best wishes to Khadim Al-Harmain Al-Sharifain King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz.

Talking to Prince Fahad bin Sultan, the President said that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia enjoy special relations that are deep-rooted in common faith, traditions and commonality of views.

The President said that he was very pleased with the outcome of the visit of Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia last week and particularly thanked the Saudi King for giving audience to the Prime Minister in which a wide range of issues including bilateral and regional matters were discussed.

The President thanked the Saudi King for announcing a grant of US$100 million for the people of Pakistan saying that this gesture reflected the love and affection for the people of Pakistan.

The President said that he hoped that the Crown Prince Salman Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud would be able to undertake an official visit to Pakistan at his earliest convenience and that he looked forward to welcoming the Crown Prince. (APP)


Saudi prince phones President Zardari - thenews.com.pk

 

[Desert Fox]

I'll give you a simple answer fool. Want to feel the heat? Imagine being boxed by Israel, Turkey from the west and Iran and Pakistan in cooperation with Israel from the East.

All the trouble that stems our progress are Arab related, whether you like it or not. Imagine, being a friends to Israel, India and Iran, instead of you? Look at Turkeys progress, just because of following this policy.

By the way, war is imminent, don't be so hyped about the 'arab spring' and that what you achieved. There is a difference when foreign forces are shooting to kill in comparison to confused local police.

You Egyptian, will teach us a lesson? You couldn't even get rid of one 80 year old fat man for the better part your pathetic history after the pharaohs raped and pillaged you for generations.

Never EVER compare your kind to our people or lands. Kapeesh?



Tell me of ONE ARAB KILL of Israeli aircraft? Go back and enjoy the recent 'partial' freedom you got. Oooooops be careful, GIS maybe watching what you type. Hail to the president of EGG.ypt.


Now a quiz:

Question: Name one Arab country TRULY free from internal (kings, queens and jokers) and external (US, Russia and whatever) influences?

Your choices are:

A) None
B) None
C) None

Please go and place a few imaginary farts in protest to the above question to get rid of the eternal abdominal pain.

Yaar, Hyperion there was no need for any of that. And FYI neither is Pakistan free from external influences. At least the Egyptians removed a dictator and installed a gov.t that will actually represent the people of Egypt.

BTW, to those claiming we prevented israel from taking over Arab countries by sending a few pilots, i can only pity you people. You're embarrassing the rest of us here with your nonsensical ego boosting claims.

 

[Armstrong]

Yaar, Hyperion there was no need for any of that. And FYI neither is Pakistan free from external influences. At least the Egyptians removed a dictator and installed a gov.t that will actually represent the people of Egypt.

BTW, to those claiming we prevented israel from taking over Arab countries by sending a few pilots, i can only pity you people. You're embarrassing the rest of us here with your nonsensical ego boosting claims.

What you don't like Hazrat Zardari ?

 

[Desert Fox]

Mate, everyone has been trying to behave. I literally have to bite my lips and hold back, sometimes. But what BlackEagle has written is way out of whack.

Whatever the case, no one should be allowed to come and trash us. These forums are indexed by search-engines and add to the plethora of 'doctored' negative comments about Pakistan and it's people, available elsewhere. We should add 'noindex' tags individually to such comments. Just for the sake of Pakistan.

Well when certain members here with their ego's start making tall idiotic, unsupported claims like "if it wasn't for Pakistan israel would have taken over Arab countries" then of course it should be no surprise that some Arab would reply befittingly.

What you don't like Hazrat Zardari ?

I never voted for Zardari, i was not even in Pakistan when he became president.

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

What you don't like Hazrat Zardari ?

LOL!