Saudi Arabia's crown prince promises country will return to 'moderate, open Islam'

[raptor22]

Clarification:

“What happened in the last 30 years is not Saudi Arabia. What happened in the region in the last 30 years is not the Middle East. After the Iranian revolution in 1979, people wanted to copy this model in different countries, one of them is Saudi Arabia. We didn’t know how to deal with it. And the problem spread all over the world. Now is the time to get rid of it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/24/i-will-return-saudi-arabia-moderate-islam-crown-prince

Yeah it's all about Iran, even they attacked Karbala and Najaf killing at least 5k people and sacking entire city in the last century again it was Iran ... and what happened in Afghanistan by creation of Jihadist was pure Suadis as what came next was Saudi and who fought them? who Supported Saddam who fought Saddam? who recognized Taliban who fought them? who was behind of establishment of new democratic Gov in Afghanistan and who continued to support Taliban? who was the first that recognized Iraq democratic Gov and who did everything to undermine it for a decade? who supported terrorism and isis in the region? isis is outcome of Iraq Bath regime commander and AQ both supported by Saudis while Iran fought both of them. who was behind Kurdistan separation and who wanted an united Iraq?

It's all Iran fault.

 

[pak-marine]

never too late .. good move initiative the saudi royals conservative islam is destructive .. time has proven that .. to move on better stick to modernisation

 

[prashantazazel]

Great move by the prince. The conservatives have to adapt to a changing world.

 

[pak-marine]

what is moderate and open Islam ?

moderate is any theology other than what saudi and iranians mullahs have been following

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

If salafists are the only ones that fight christian occupation in countries like Afghanistan, Somalia or Mali then its an honor for salafists. Secularists and "moderate muslims" should be ashamed for cheerleadering modern colonialism

Go f yourself and learn some history.

Ignorant Salafist, almost every Muslim country won there independence which was done by mainstream Muslims of traditional views and mostly Sufi leaning. Look at Turkey, Checenya, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia etc.

On the other hand, take the example of Bosnia and Chechnya where Muslims were doing well and had public suppport behind them until petro dollar Salafists / Wahhabis came and started blowing up kids in theatres.

Salafism is a disease of former criminals ,drug dealers and rappers using Islam because they want the lowest of low Arab or Asian snatch.

 

[Falcon29]

Yeah it's all about Iran, even they attacked Karbala and Najaf killing at least 5k people and sacking entire city in the last century again it was Iran ... and what happened in Afghanistan by creation of Jihadist was pure Suadis as what came next was Saudi and who fought them? who Supported Saddam who fought Saddam? who recognized Taliban who fought them? who was behind of establishment of new democratic Gov in Afghanistan and who continued to support Taliban? who was the first that recognized Iraq democratic Gov and who did everything to undermine it for a decade? who supported terrorism and isis in the region? isis is outcome of Iraq Bath regime commander and AQ both supported by Saudis while Iran fought both of them. who was behind Kurdistan separation and who wanted an united Iraq?

It's all Iran fault.

I highlighted that part to show people that the objectives here seem to be economic ones to attract investors. I believe they're going to change some things, like introduce resorts with mixing and other measures to make it like Dubai. I don't get why he mentions Iran unless he's saying they tried to produce counter ideology.

 

[Metanoia]

Saudi(Govt.) "Islam" v2.0

 

[EasyNow]

Great news. Majority Muslims, unfortunately need to be spoonfed their beliefs, so I'm delighted that our Saudi brethren have took on the challenge.

 

[Timur]

yay moderate muslims as the americans define it.. what a huge benefitial move.. from one extreem to another extreeme..

no it was not enough terrorising muslims around the globe with game of thrones style.. no now they want to mess up and confuse them too.. good move man.. good move..

people may think it may help the king to strengthen his throne who knows.. maybe

 

[AmirPatriot]

"Return"?

 

[SouI]

 

[Saif al-Arab]

What is modern-day KSA is the cradle of Islam and the indigenous home to almost all Islamic sects, whether Sunni, Shia or Ibadi. Even Sufism. Those sects are followed by various groups of people in the many historical regions of KSA to this very day.

The great MbS is referring to hardliners among the Sahwa and those within the government (past ones) and clergy that were in support of them. He is not referring to the principles of Hanbali Sunni Islam.

Anyway it does not matter what foreigners have to say about the ongoing changes in KSA other than fellow Arabs. The most crucial thing is that KSA is moving in the right direction on all fronts and quick and that the vast majority of people are in support of this policy.

Also one must be an idiot to claim that terrorist groups are following traditional Salafism (this implies that the al-Salaf al-Salih were terrorists which is nothing else than a grave sin) however such ridiculous views are not surprising to find on PDF.

Yeah it's all about Iran, even they attacked Karbala and Najaf killing at least 5k people and sacking entire city in the last century again it was Iran ... and what happened in Afghanistan by creation of Jihadist was pure Suadis as what came next was Saudi and who fought them? who Supported Saddam who fought Saddam? who recognized Taliban who fought them? who was behind of establishment of new democratic Gov in Afghanistan and who continued to support Taliban? who was the first that recognized Iraq democratic Gov and who did everything to undermine it for a decade? who supported terrorism and isis in the region? isis is outcome of Iraq Bath regime commander and AQ both supported by Saudis while Iran fought both of them. who was behind Kurdistan separation and who wanted an united Iraq?

It's all Iran fault.

 

[MultaniGuy]

What does he mean by moderate Islam?

There is only one Islam.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

This is good. We need to soften Islam, then the radicals have no excuse anymore to cause troubles. When the cradle of Islam reforms, then who are those non-arabs to act extreme?

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Why don't you take your donkey and return to your impoverished Anatolian village, my Turkified and Arabized Anatolian?

Why don't you for once mind your own business and realize that your barking has no meaning or importance other than similar retards agreeing with you?

Everything that I wrote is a historic fact as well as a theological fact. The entire world knows it.

A camel would crush a donkey like you every day of the week all year round. I am no different when I deal with you.

Now get lost.

Nothing you write is fact, I'm not from Anatolia you camel jockey.

Look your country is behind 1000 years, they need time to reform and statements like these to prove to westerners there country will be safe for tourism, no one visits your shithole country outside pilgrimage meaning there is nothing to offer outside of working in digging up oil for expats in there safeguarded quarters.

Fact is your shit hole country has caused Muslims the most suffering, you rival Iran on this subject only that Iran actually has a history and culture while you Saudi Bedouins only have barren land.

On topic if KSA need to follow a more moderate Islam that means either they are moving away from Islam or the Islam they have been following is wrong from the start (Wahhabism).