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How Saudi Arabia stood by Pakistan after nuclear tests​

How Saudi Arabia stood by Pakistan after nuclear tests

Khalid Mahmood, former Pakistani ambassador to Saudi Arabia. (AN photo)


Updated 18 February 2019
Sib Kaifee
February 18, 2019 01:16
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  • Former Pakistani ambassador Khalid Mahmood says Pakistani officials did not tell Riyadh of its intent to test
  • Envoy reiterates King Fahd stood firm with Pakistan despite international pressure
ISLAMABAD: Khalid Mahmood was in Jeddah on the afternoon of May 28, 1998, waiting to receive a delegation, when news broke that Pakistan had conducted five underground nuclear tests under then-Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.
Mahmood, who was Pakistan’s ambassador to Saudi Arabia at the time, sat in his hotel room watching TV reports of the tests and awaiting instructions on his next move from the Foreign Ministry.
By that evening, he told Arab News, he decided to break protocol and make contact with the Royal Court, requesting an urgent meeting with then-King Fahd the following day, a non-working Friday.
To Mahmood’s surprise, the king agreed. By then, the ambassador had also received instructions from Islamabad: A diplomatically isolated Pakistan was to seek the support of the king and crown prince.

Mahmood denied the widely held opinion that Pakistani officials had already informed Riyadh of their intent to test. “It’s not true that I conveyed to them (the Saudis) that we were going to have this nuclear test,” he said.
Mahmood described how, with “great fanfare and (motorcycle) escorts,” he was taken to the palace, where the king apologized for not being able to get up to greet him on account of a bad knee. “It was so very gracious of him,” Mahmood said. “Nobody expects the king to get up and receive (diplomats).”
After listening to Islamabad’s reasons for the surprise nuclear tests, Mahmood said the king was brief in his response.
“He said we are against what you have done because we are a member of the non-proliferation treaty. But we know and understand why you have done it. And we will support you more than you expect of us.”
After Pakistan tested the weapons, the US imposed harsh sanctions, including cutting off trade credits, private bank loans and support for loans not based on relief from the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Arms sales and military aid to Pakistan were already cut off under separate legislation in 1990, when it was determined that Pakistan had nuclear weapons.
At this difficult moment in Pakistan’s history, Mahmood said, the king’s “depth of brotherly feeling” was touching.
The following day, then-Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz held a longer meeting, officially reiterating the Kingdom’s support for Pakistan, with assurances in the form of a four-year deferred oil financing facility worth roughly $3.4 billion. This gave Pakistan the confidence to go ahead and conduct another nuclear test on May 30, Mahmood said.
A few weeks later, the envoy was called in again for a meeting with the crown prince, who had been receiving persistent calls from US President Bill Clinton asking Riyadh to reconsider its position on Pakistan.
But the crown prince refused to comply. “Our relations with Pakistan are of a different nature,” Mahmood quoted the crown prince as having told the Americans.

.. And Pakistan screwed them over when they asked help when forming a coalition for Syria and Yemen.
 
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It isn't helping bro.
3 billions every now and then isn't doing much. They should just give us 30-40 billion at once and we'll be on our way, no longer a bother for them. :D

@Imran Khan
Beggars can’t be choosers according to your PM. Even if Saudis give $30 B, genaril sahib and their politicians will find a way to go bankrupt.
 
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that was total different story then we previously agreed sir .and results of these wars proved paksitan was right .
Result of Pakistani economy and economic isolation proved Pakistan was totally wrong and cannot be trusted. Results of those war is of no consequence to Pakistan, nor they are over. Pakistan just missed the boat in horrendous manner.
 
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Result of Pakistani economy and economic isolation proved Pakistan was totally wrong and cannot be trusted. Results of those war is of no consequence to Pakistan, nor they are over. Pakistan just missed the boat in horrendous manner.

Adverse consequences of those wars:

1. Allowed your military industrial complex to consolidate their power.

2. Allowed Taliban to radicalise your men.

3. Brought even more guns and ammunition into your tribal areas.

4. Allowed RAW to infiltrate Afghanistan and attack you from the west.

5. Become a trading hub for Afghan narcotics.

WHAT WERE THE UPSIDE OF THE WAR?
 
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Result of Pakistani economy and economic isolation proved Pakistan was totally wrong and cannot be trusted. Results of those war is of no consequence to Pakistan, nor they are over. Pakistan just missed the boat in horrendous manner.
لگتا ہے اردو مین سمجھانا ہو گا ۔ پچھلی جنگ جس میں ہم شامل ہوئے تھے اس میں امداد یا بھیک ملی تھی 33 ارب اور نقصان ہوا تھا 176 ارب ڈالر کا جانوں کا نقصان 70 ہزار جو کہ اربوں ڈالر سے بھی پورا نہین ہو سکتا پاکستنا کا جو نام خراب ہوا وہ الگ ۔
اب ہم پہلے ہی سلفی اور دیوبندی مسلک کے دہشت گردوں سے تباہ حال ہیں اور آپ چاہتے ہیں کہ 2-4 ارب ڈالر کے لیے ایک اور مسلکی جنگ جس مین شعیہ مسلک کو بھی اپنے مخالف کر دیا جائے ؟
کیا آپ جانتے ہیں سوڈان اور مصر کو کتنی امداد ملی ؟ مصر کو 8 ارب اور سوڈان کو تین ارب آپکے خیال میں ہمیں کتنی مل جاتی جس کے لیے ملک کو آگ میں جھونک دیا جاتا ؟ انڈیا افغانستان بارڈر پر کم تباہی ہے جو ایرانی بارڈر پر بھی دشمنی مول لے لی جاتی ؟

آپکو اس جنگ سے مزید تباہی ملتی ۔ اور جو سٹیبلتی کے 4 سال گزرے جس مین ریزرو وغیرہ سب بہتر تھا اس جنگ مین نا شامل ہونے پر ملا ۔ اب جو کچھ ہو رہا ہے یہ سیاسی ناکامی معاشی پالیسیوں کا نتیجہ ہے نا کہ جنگ نا کرنے کی وجہ ۔

دنیا کا کوئی بھی ملک نہیں چاہے گا کہ وہ جنگ مین جائے چاہے اس کے لیے کتنا پیسا مل رہا ہو ۔
 
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لگتا ہے اردو مین سمجھانا ہو گا ۔ پچھلی جنگ جس میں ہم شامل ہوئے تھے اس میں امداد یا بھیک ملی تھی 33 ارب اور نقصان ہوا تھا 176 ارب ڈالر کا جانوں کا نقصان 70 ہزار جو کہ اربوں ڈالر سے بھی پورا نہین ہو سکتا پاکستنا کا جو نام خراب ہوا وہ الگ ۔
اب ہم پہلے ہی سلفی اور دیوبندی مسلک کے دہشت گردوں سے تباہ حال ہیں اور آپ چاہتے ہیں کہ 2-4 ارب ڈالر کے لیے ایک اور مسلکی جنگ جس مین شعیہ مسلک کو بھی اپنے مخالف کر دیا جائے ؟
کیا آپ جانتے ہیں سوڈان اور مصر کو کتنی امداد ملی ؟ مصر کو 8 ارب اور سوڈان کو تین ارب آپکے خیال میں ہمیں کتنی مل جاتی جس کے لیے ملک کو آگ میں جھونک دیا جاتا ؟ انڈیا افغانستان بارڈر پر کم تباہی ہے جو ایرانی بارڈر پر بھی دشمنی مول لے لی جاتی ؟

آپکو اس جنگ سے مزید تباہی ملتی ۔ اور جو سٹیبلتی کے 4 سال گزرے جس مین ریزرو وغیرہ سب بہتر تھا اس جنگ مین نا شامل ہونے پر ملا ۔ اب جو کچھ ہو رہا ہے یہ سیاسی ناکامی معاشی پالیسیوں کا نتیجہ ہے نا کہ جنگ نا کرنے کی وجہ ۔


دنیا کا کوئی بھی ملک نہیں چاہے گا کہ وہ جنگ مین جائے چاہے اس کے لیے کتنا پیسا مل رہا ہو ۔
Two thing:
1. last war you were forced to join, because General commando ki Hawa nikal gai thi. Os waqt b mulk dwalia ho raha tha. General Commando took a sudden U-Turn, without consulting anyone or any legal, moral or long term planning. Army was sitting with thumb up its ***. 20 years later, situation isn’t much different.

2. Now Syrian dictator was dropping barrel bombs on it’s people running a sectarian war. It was morally right to stop him. Similar, in Yemen. huties were fighting local govt and launching scud in Saudis. Neither Yemen nor Syria has land border to Pakistan. So there won’t be any blow back.

If decisions were made based in Islamic morals then decisions were obvious. appeasement wouldn’t get you friends, sometime countries needs to grow a spine.. Pakistan would have strengthened its strategic alliances, Petro dollars was just bonus.
 
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Two thing:
1. last war you were forced to join, because General commando ki Hawa nikal gai thi. Os waqt b mulk dwalia ho raha tha. General Commando took a sudden U-Turn, without consulting anyone or any legal, moral or long term planning. Army was sitting with thumb up its ***. 20 years later, situation isn’t much different.

2. Now Syrian dictator was dropping barrel bombs on it’s people running a sectarian war. It was morally right to stop him. Similar, in Yemen. huties were fighting local govt and launching scud in Saudis. Neither Yemen nor Syria has land border to Pakistan. So there won’t be any blow back.

If decisions were made based in Islamic morals then decisions were obvious. appeasement wouldn’t get you friends, sometime countries needs to grow a spine.. Pakistan would have strengthened its strategic alliances, Petro dollars was just bonus.

Tell the Saudis to take their Wahhabi Madrasas back as well 😂😂😂👏👏
 
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