Saudi Arabia says it won't rule out building nuclear weapons

[bozorgmehr]

You are a pathetic liar. Your false statements in abundance in this thread alone should have removed any ounce of trust in your claims. In other past threads too.

[B]@Horus[/B] please take care of this Arab/KSA-obsessed troll who does nothing on PDF other than writing nonsense and spreading his venom against Arabs and KSA.

Horus, throw this South Afrikan ingrate in the dungeon now... the Saudi has spoken....

There are issues but you judge a lot of people based on a few. The people you saw at home may have been reserved with you or have treated you like a guest rather then a friend. When I was studying abroad I learnt there are many stereotypes that one needs to break free from, the media shows your country to be unsafe and with a history of extreme racism. But things are changing for the better and will improve. Most people
You need to visit KAUST to see the real Saudi Arabia. Yes there are cases of racism and problems with foreigners but that is a small percentage compared to the millions of foreigners happy in Saudi and with its system. The Saudi youth strives to improve, has started taking interest in the country and has been moving forward in the fields of education and the current Saudization drive has seen many organisations manned by Saudi men and to some extent women, and the next generation will only get better.

If Saudis are improving, that can only be good for the whole world! But they are far, far away from reconciling with the modern world.... You dont just go from advocating the elimination of Shia and not allowing women to drive, to a progressive and functional modern society... such changes take a loooong time

 

[Irfan Baloch]

100% correct. They have cannot fight on the land, they will lose even against the yemenis. Even in 67 or 73 war they stood aside; they use foreigners for the land force.
Just go and see the wretched princes' homes, you will find everything from drugs to liquor - Talal's amazing interview with 60min - openly has liquor in his cabinets with mini skirt secretaries hovering around him.
Just garbage man.... british gave them the titles yet they are nothing than fleas off the camels' back.

please tone down your criticism
remain civil and objectively highlight why you have issues with KSA policies. how their princes live their private lives is of no consequence for us here and none of our business

it is abusive which is not tolerated

@denel @Saif al-Arab
Both of you chill out now
I mean right now. take a break, have a drink and stop ranting.

this is final warning: I have only deleted posts so far but now infarctions might follow.

 

[Gufi]

If Saudis are improving, that can only be good for the whole world! But they are far, far away from reconciling with the modern world.... You dont just go from advocating the elimination of Shia and not allowing women to drive, to a progressive and functional modern society... such changes take a loooong time

Well again that is a misconception. The issue is not with Shias but it is Iran because there was a time the two countries got along. The fault lies with two countries wanting to lead the Muslim world and rather then trying to move forward progressively there is hate and mistrust. Yes there are religious differences but there has never been a call to eliminate shias
As for changes, there are many changes Iran needs to take also. Do not think Iran should have a problem if Saudi is troubled by the rebels in Yemen. I did not see Iran saying it is their army or there is any Iranian influence there, rather he is helping the Yemeni President and the army. The countries do have defence treaties, and looking at it from a sectarian point of view is sad to say the least.
But again it depends on how you see things, proxy wars have one problem and that is the army can not be defended directly but the funders.

 

[mike2000]

You don't have to lack the objectivity with an emotional outburst just because they have illegally occupied your ancestral land.

Most Chinese don't like the US either. However, we never deny the US contribution to the modern world.

well said my friend, but dont waste your time since you are arguing with someone who(along with many Iranians on here) hates jews to the bone.lool We as outsiders know fully well how smart the jews are, and their huge contributrion to mankind/modern world. its for this same reason he cant take it, Jews to be honest are simply smarter than them, reason Israel is the most united and advanced country in the middle east by farrrrrrr.. they can keep denying this simple fact but it doesnt changes anything. Reason i always admire the Chinese since they are open to learn from the best (even their rivals) which lead to constant improvement. Just let him be in his blind hatred.
Israeli Tech Startups Attract Chinese Investors - WSJ
China-Israel relations | The Diplomat

By the way over the next two years, China is expected to surpass the U.S. as Israel’s biggest collaborator in the number of joint government-backed development projects according to this article.

 

[mike2000]

Saudis will not fight a ground war with Iran since they know they will be defeated. They may only invade Yemen since there is no army but armed militias with small weapons. Saudis had Iraq attack Iran and in the 1980s that killed 2 million people. They are sponsoring Sunni terrorists in many Muslim countries especially in Pakistan. There are thousands of sons, grandsons, great-grandsons of first Saudi rules. These Saudi billionaire princes should go and fight their own war instead of hiring foreigners to fight and die for them.

Agree, despite having so much cash/wealth/top 3 defence spender, Saudi Arabia will certainly never fight a ground war with its own soldiers, rather it will rather do so till the last Pakistani. LMAO. Thing is, Saudi Arabia is kind of too wealthy to be able to take the deaths of its own citizens/soldiers, while poor Pakistan wouldnt really mind that much since they are easilly expendable for instance. So a ground war/invasion is no go for Saudi arabia, even with poor rag tag yemenis Militants.

 

[denel]

please tone down your criticism
remain civil and objectively highlight why you have issues with KSA policies. how their princes live their private lives is of no consequence for us here and none of our business

it is abusive which is not tolerated

@denel @Saif al-Arab
Both of you chill out now
I mean right now. take a break, have a drink and stop ranting.

this is final warning: I have only deleted posts so far but now infarctions might follow.

Irfan, please take the time and go back to the original post this fellow started posting. The verbal abuse, racist language, insults etc..... I am surprised you dont have him barred. He calls my country folks, monkeys etc and then proceed to insult family.

Have some decency and bar him from posting any verbal abuse. I will not stand for any racist slurs from arabs no matter who they are. This is not the first time arabs have insulted for no reason and yet this forum does nothing to (MOD EDIT: RACIST CONTENT REMOVED)

 

[mike2000]

Irfan, please take the time and go back to the original post this fellow started posting. The verbal abuse, racist language, insults etc..... I am surprised you dont have him barred. He calls my country folks, monkeys etc and then proceed to insult family.

Have some decency and bar him from posting any verbal abuse. I will not stand for any racist slurs from arabs no matter who they are. This is not the first time arabs have insulted for no reason and yet this forum does nothing to these desert mongering rats. Why?

I agree with you on this one though, having been to quite a few Arab countries , i can attest that they are quite racists and look down on south Asians, and most of all balck people/Africans. However i was surprised to see they look up/admire white Europeans like us.lool Strange............LOOL You africans are quite warm/welcoming/most tolerant//the least racist people i have ever encountered in my life, and believe me i have travelled alot.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Have some decency and bar him from posting any verbal abuse. I will not stand for any racist slurs from arabs no matter who they are. This is not the first time arabs have insulted for no reason and yet this forum does nothing to these desert ?

No you wont respond to such abuse and do exactly what someone else is doing
please be rest assured that all violations will be dealt accordingly just report them dont quote them
your own post deserved a warning but I have only edited it

dont do it next time

 

[denel]

I agree with you on this one though, having been to quite a few Arab countries , i can attest that they are quite racists and look down on south Asians, and most of all balck people/Africans. However i was surprised to see they look up/admire white Europeans like us.lool Strange............LOOL You africans are quite warm/welcoming/most tolerant//the least racist people i have ever encountered in my life, and believe me i have travelled alot.

Thanks Mike. Visit anywhere in southern africa and you are welcomed with open arms and you feel at home. I have German, American friends who have stayed here for decades and they all say that this continent takes us in and makes us feel at home yet we dont even feel the same way when we go back to our home countries. Some have even come here to retire either in Namibia, Botswana or South Africa.

We dont judge people as we consider each person to be part of a larger fabric of a community. This is a matter of true pride. Even if we have little, we will sit and share with any person in the room.

 

[mike2000]

Thanks Mike. Visit anywhere in southern africa and you are welcomed with open arms and you feel at home. I have German, American friends who have stayed here for decades and they all say that this continent takes us in and makes us feel at home yet we dont even feel the same way when we go back to our home countries. Some have even come here to retire either in Namibia, Botswana or South Africa.

We dont judge people as we consider each person to be part of a larger fabric of a community. This is a matter of true pride. Even if we have little, we will sit and share with any person in the room.

Actually im married to a half cameroonian(half french) lady and we have two gorgeous mixed Children . I have traveled extensively in Africa my brother, and your continent is the most beautiful and diverse place i have ever been to. The people, the climate,geographical landscape, nature,air etc. Africa is just pure beauty. I ahve been to few southern African countries like South Africa, Botswana, Zambia, Lesotho,Namibia and and Angola

By the way i never knew we had African members on here(apart from a few). So you are welcome brother.

 

[A1Kaid]

IF KSA does seek or develop nuclear weapons that would be a violation of the NPT which Saudi Arabia if a signatory.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

IF KSA does seek or develop nuclear weapons that would be a violation of the NPT which Saudi Arabia if a signatory.

They can leave NPT when they like.

 

[A1Kaid]

They can leave NPT when they like.

Then why don't they?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Saudi Arabia hired one blond Canadian engineer without realizing that he was actually Lebanese Christian with French name. They offered him Canadian salary, when he started work in the Saudi Arabia and started speaking Arabic the Saudis were surprised and reduced his salary. Since now he was deemed as Lebanese and was paid Arab scale. He left his good job in Canada because of the job offer with salary and Saudis reneged it. They have different salaries for the same job depending on nationality and race.

your post has no relevance to the thread
please discuss it elsewhere and quote your source before such story because it will be rejected

 

[RFS_Br]

Israel developed nuclear weapons in the 1960's and they did that because ether were smarter than anyone else in the region back then. They had the know-how in other words.

Israel was taught by the French, who were taught by the Brits. As in most other things, Israel would have nothing in nuclear matters without external aid. Arabs need to drop this myth of the all knowing Israelis.