Saudi Arabia planning procurement of JF-17 Thunder, Mashshaks, says Saudi air chief

[Hurshid Celebi]

Any news from Azerbaijan guys. They were also considering the JF17?

They wrote that already ordered them with Nigeria together

http://az.azeridefence.com/azerbaycanin-pakistandan-jf-17-teyyarelerini-alma-meselesi-
hell-olunur/

Seems to be "signed" ? ( I am not sure )

http://www.dawn.com/news/1231763

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

if you are being sarcastic about Saudi's buying the jf17 then why is the IAF trying to introduce the tejas, when they have the rafael on order and have about 300 russian fighters who are all better then the tejas ?????

the jf17 is your force multiplier that you add with your air domanice fighters like the EF Typhoon, rafael or f16's.

if wars were won by having the best and the most costliest jets then USAF would have stopped making the f16's, f15's along time ago and only concentrated on super expensive jets like the f35 or the f22.

to have a world class airforce you need to have jets that compliment and assist your top of the range jets.



to be honest a 5th generation fighter jet funded by the qataris, saudis and UAE and developed by pakistan and china makes alot of sense for the muslim world.

it could be the middle easts air dominance fighter jet without any restrictions

If you would have followed this tread then what you are saying regarding JF-17 with EJ-200 engines are for SANG. The fifth Generation Fighter aircraft that would be procured would be Turkish Fighter X which would use a similar engine as Saudi Arabia is not considering the F-35.

 

[krash]

Tejas is for self reliance to India , how JF17 will give self-reliance to KSA??

By producing an aircraft designed by the French, with an EW suite from Israel, a powerplant from the US?.......sure, Saudia could do that with the JF-17.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

if you are being sarcastic about Saudi's buying the jf17 then why is the IAF trying to introduce the tejas, when they have the rafael on order and have about 300 russian fighters who are all better then the tejas ?????

the jf17 is your force multiplier that you add with your air domanice fighters like the EF Typhoon, rafael or f16's.

if wars were won by having the best and the most costliest jets then USAF would have stopped making the f16's, f15's along time ago and only concentrated on super expensive jets like the f35 or the f22.

to have a world class airforce you need to have jets that compliment and assist your top of the range jets.



to be honest a 5th generation fighter jet funded by the qataris, saudis and UAE and developed by pakistan and china makes alot of sense for the muslim world.

it could be the middle easts air dominance fighter jet without any restrictions

If you would have followed this tread then what you are saying regarding JF-17 with EJ-200 engines are for SANG. The fifth Generation Fighter aircraft that would be procured would be Turkish Fighter X which would use a similar engine as Saudi Arabia is not considering the F-35.

https://defence.pk/threads/saudi-air-land-naval-forces-sang.73050/

yes i do know what a force multiplier is, if you can read then you will understand i was implying that the jf17 is adding extra aircrafts to saudi air force which means its multiplying its numbers.

take your indian hating *** somewhere else.

Indians simply can not hack the fact money rich world powers like Saudi and Qatar are buying the jf17.

till they day they see the jet in SA or Qatari flying colours they will say the Jf17 is not good enough for countries that already have typhoons and rafaels.

huge congratulations to the PAC facility in Karama

Saudi Arabia wanted to procure F-16's but USA refused them and said they should have F-15's. Mirage 2000 were not considered because of British Tornado's. Hence EFT was also procured.

The requirement of Single engine aircraft still remains which is the reason JF-17 are being looked at.

Guys...

Is it even possible to mount EJ-200 on JF-17 ?

YES...
The design is modular hence it can customized by various engines with minimum upgrades.
Over the years it has been speculated that while designing the JF-17 PAF considered different types of engines while the engine that became available was only from Russia. Hence it was designed in a way that they can be powered by various engines with minimum modifications, however these modifications are only available in China which indicate that USA would not supply engines.

 

[The SC]

No you don't know what is a force multiplier.. not knowing is not bad idea, not willing to learn is crime though...

Force multiplier is a equipment which addition in less number increase the potential multiple times. Like AWACS is force multiplier. growlers or prowlers are force multiplers. GPS techology is force multiplier, Night vision cameras are force mulipliers..

JF17, F16 (in USA), MiG29 (in Russia) , LCA are fillers, the fill the squadron gap...

You must thank me than abusing me..

Yes but it can take many meanings too.. let's say you add a squadron of the F-35 to any air force ..that would be a force multiplier.. this we agree upon! and yet adding 100 JF-17 block 3 with AESA, IRST, SEAD capabilities, BVR missiles and much more to any air force is a a vlue plus and indeed is a force multiplier since it boosts the forces.. and as you think, it is not correct in the case of KSA it does not have squadron gaps.. so one might say it is a force multiplier.. and after all they might be dedicated to the national guard and other duties..

 

[Tps43]

Guys...

Is it even possible to mount EJ-200 on JF-17 ?

Areh mesha . I have also heard that iran is also very much interested in jf 17 . The latest intrest were shown 3 months back Cuz it can give iran bang for its money is that true?

 

[GumNaam]

Nah... can't see it happening when they have access to very advance aircraft platforms.

How come this is the very first visit by a Saudi Air Chief to Pakistan? I thought Saudis lived in Pakistan.

Nope. The saudi eurofighters and F15s are extremely expensive and they would be hesitant to send them up against an adversary with a robust air defence like iran or isreal. They need an effective, reliable and affordable work horse that they can send up in large numbers.

Having said that, I'm not sure if we would be willing to give the saudis the JFT at the risk of upsetting iran. It may not happen at all. Either that or we may make an agreement with the saudis to strictly use the Thunders for air defence ONLY and not in any offensive role. Let's see.

 

[Skyliner]

I'm not sure if we would be willing to give the saudis the JFT at the risk of upsetting iran. It may not happen at all. Either that or we may make an agreement with the saudis to strictly use the Thunders for air defence ONLY.

Pakistan has never chosen Iran over Saudia. Pakistan will not even hesitate closing JF deal with Saudia considering Iran's reaction.
Even in Yemen war we didn't sided with IRAN, we just stayed out of that mess(if this makes you think Pakistan cares for Iran more)

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Can any Pakistani here confirm the list below. The listing is of all countries that are interested in the JF17. There is so much chatter about the potential sale of JF17s that it's hard to keep up with which counties in the list have already signed the deal. If I have forgotten any country in the list, please add it too. TY

Myanmar
Azerbaijan
Zimbabwe
Turkey
Serbia
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Sri Lanka
Nigeria
Indonesia
Bangladesh
Syria
Bolivia
Ethiopia
Morocco
Venezuela
Iran
Lebanon
Albania
Malaysia
North Korea
Sudan
Congo
Argentina
Tanzania

Indonesia certainly does not appear to look st JF-17.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...onesian-fighter-requirements-aired-local-show

Gripen, F-16V, Typhoon, Su-35, KF-X appears to be on the table.

Malaysia has publicly denied they are interested in JF-17.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...terest-in-jf-17-signal-export-sales/77704460/

Why would Turkey be interested, with F-16 in inventory & F-35 coming and TFX in Development?

Serbia seems to be looking for new MiG-29

http://aviationweek.com/farnborough...craft-procurement-plans-19-european-countries.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Can any Pakistani here confirm the list below. The listing is of all countries that are interested in the JF17. There is so much chatter about the potential sale of JF17s that it's hard to keep up with which counties in the list have already signed the deal. If I have forgotten any country in the list, please add it too. TY

Myanmar
Azerbaijan
Zimbabwe
Turkey
Serbia
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Sri Lanka
Nigeria
Indonesia
Bangladesh
Syria
Bolivia
Ethiopia
Morocco
Venezuela
Iran
Lebanon
Albania
Malaysia
North Korea
Sudan
Congo
Argentina
Tanzania

• The Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex JF-17 Thunder fighter has secured its first confirmed export deal.

“A contract has been signed with an Asian country,” says Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood, the Pakistan air force officer who leads sales and marketing efforts for the type.

Citing client sensitivities, he declined to specify the customer and the number of aircraft it will obtain. Deliveries will start in 2017.



https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/paris-jf-17-wins-first-export-order-413480/

According to IHS Jane’s, Nigeria has signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Pakistan for the purchase of an undisclosed number of JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighters. The contract is expected to be inked in November in Pakistan during the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) in Karachi.

Notes, Comments & Analysis:

Reports of a firm order emerged in January when a Nigerian newspaper, Punch, reported that $35 million U.S. had been allocated in the annual budget for three JF-17s and 10 Super Mushshak basic trainers for the Nigerian Air Force (NAF), the latter was officially finalized in June.

Negotiations between Nigeria and Pakistan likely began at the end of 2014, when the NAF had formally expressed interest in the JF-17. During IDEAS 2014, it was reported that the NAF could ultimately procure 25-40 JF-17s. While official numbers were not disclosed, it is likely that the NAF’s total order will not be as large given that it has numerous close air support (CAS) platforms in the acquisition pipeline, such as the Mi-35M assault helicopter and A-29 Super Tucano (which is still awaiting U.S. approval).

Considering that the main operational focus of the NAF at this time is counterinsurgency (COIN), it is likely that the NAF’s JF-17s will be configured for the strike role. Nigeria’s fruitful defence ties with China should enable it to procure a range of precision-guided munitions (PGM), such as the LT-series of laser-guided bombs. It is possible that Pakistan may seek to export domestically produced PGMs as well, such as the Global Industrial Defence Solutions (GIDS) Range Extension Kit (REK).

In its air defence configuration, the JF-17 would also imbue the NAF with relatively potent capabilities (especially if it can secure the SD-10 active radar-guided air-to-air missile). Among Nigeria’s immediate neighbours, only Chad possesses a modern fighter platform – i.e. the MiG-29 Fulcrum. However, it is not known how well these fighters are armed in terms of modern air-to-air munitions.
http://quwa.org/2016/09/15/nigeria-will-ink-jf-17-deal-november/



Time for you to commit suicide.

 

[farhan_9909]

Guys...

Is it even possible to mount EJ-200 on JF-17 ?

Yes.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

is AESA a new DSI for JF?

If it burns your rectum sure..

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

F-15 coming

No, we will never get F-15 planes.

(We needed A-10 s but it is now too late. FetÖ Generals sabotaged all plans with their masterminds.)


Who believes in TF-X ? me not.

J-31 could be a common solution. We need all Russian Licence for sure.
But Russians won't trust either China or Turkey, at this moment.

Many believe by purchasing the Su-35 it will allow China to eventually clone the jet's advanced avionics
and sub-systems for use in their burgeoning stealth J-20 and J-31 programs.


http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/amazing-photos-of-chinas-newest-stealth-jet-show-growin-1657003826

 

[khansaheeb]

Unfortunately Pakistan does not have the manufacturing capacity at present to meet external orders for nthe JF17. However if partners were willing to invest in additional joint production then this could be achieved.

 

[HRK]

Indonesia certainly does not appear to look st JF-17.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...onesian-fighter-requirements-aired-local-show

Gripen, F-16V, Typhoon, Su-35, KF-X appears to be on the table.

Malaysia has publicly denied they are interested in JF-17.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...terest-in-jf-17-signal-export-sales/77704460/

Why would Turkey be interested, with F-16 in inventory & F-15 coming and TFX in Development?

Serbia seems to be looking for new MiG-29

http://aviationweek.com/farnborough...craft-procurement-plans-19-european-countries.

he is trolling just listing names without source

 

[danger007]

Saudi Arabia can get JF-17 with TOT. Secondly BLOCK III would be pretty much a new Jet with AESA radar capable of carrying all kind of missiles including cruise missiles and BVR and Air to Ground and other. In other words JF-17 would not only give us techonolgy but also great experience to Saudi Air Force as well as there industry.

Sorry for off topic post.. can you update su - 35 deal?