Saudi Arabia is 'biggest funder of terrorists'

[The SC]

Another catch22 situation; if you try to help poor people (poor Muslims in this situation) get some education or even some basic needs, than you are supporting terrorism, even if you have no control over the funds after the give away, or their diversion (if any).

Western politicians tend to see things from their own perspective, as most of their charitable organisations divert funds to support Israel and pocket the rest in lavish salaries, with a fraction of the funds reaching its intended destinations!!!

 

[Solomon2]

What do you mean by Iranian Jews WERE happy?

I know several Jews from Iran. They left after 1979, though some members of their families stayed behind. There's some sort of shadow over them; they won't speak of the current regime. That doesn't strike me as very happy.

 

[Edevelop]

I know several Jews from Iran. They left after 1979, though some members of their families stayed behind. There's some sort of shadow over them; they won't speak of the current regime. That doesn't strike me as very happy.

There are many Muslim Iranians too that had escaped after 1979...
Some of the reasons i believe has got to with the intent to side with Western influence. They are those who don't for some reason respect their culture. The same can be said about Saudi Arabians living abroad. I know Iranians Muslims and Jews that share this same reason. If you are really interested to find out more truth, i suggest you ask an Iranian...

 

[The SC]

Does it change the fact that the vast MAJORITY of suicide bombers in this world, along with the vast majority of muslim extremists, come from SA? No it doesn't.

3/4 of suicide bombers in Iraq were Saudi citizens. The 9/11 hijackers need no introduction. In Russia, AFG and Uzbekistan there is a huge problem with Saudi fighters. Pakistan has its own problems with the 'Madarasas' and also with saudi fighters in the border areas.

Somebody is paying this army of suicide bombers.

The whole suicide bombing concept came from India, there are videos about it.

For how long now you haven't heard about a suicide bombing by a Muslim. An order has been given and it ended it, only Muslims know from whom and why.

 

[The SC]

All these fighting and disagreements among us Muslims give our enemies the opportunity to take advantage of us. We are being fooled by others and have become victims. We need to figure this out with cool head and find a way forward. Blaming each other and pointing fingers for our mistakes will only increase acrimony, bad blood and ruin our mutual respect and good relations.

I heard that there is a Hadith where it describes a story that after repair of Kaaba, tribes in Mecca were fighting about who would carry the Hajar-al-Aswad (black stone) to its place. Then our prophet (SAWS) resolved the conflict by putting the stone on a cloth where 4 tribal chief's carried 4 ends of the cloth and the conflict was resolved. We need to find ways of conflict resolution and solve our internal problems. I will start some threads on these issues when I can make some time.

In today's world the black stone is Islam and the whole Muslim world should be carrying it, which is happening right now as we speak.
On a high level, Muslims are very close to each others while even in the ignorant circles within Muslims the war of words and animosities are fading away, thanks to an awakening momentum and its movement forward.

 

[kumarkumar1867]

Why we have said to USA indirectly, that as we are having shia muslims so any possible attack of Israel on Iran would be considered for the Pakistan...I'm afraid we can not just seek our own problems which are worst than other muslim coutries even Iran (like Karachi, suicide bombings, poverty, females problems, minority problems, kashmir problem, Balochistan problem which we have forgeted after participating war for others...Why we we can't be moderate...Now a days I'm seeeing the propaganda against Saudi Arab (No one of us is true angle)...we are saying it is puppet of USA and providing air-bases to Israel for attack on IRAN. Why we forgetted that in Afghan-USSR war we were supposed to be the ISRail ally among KSA and USA (though not declared but their was weapons support from Israel as well)...To remove Taliban force is not the solution, we are doing same mistake of Bengal (my opinion of course you may have differernt)...


you know even our distant family friends who are missing as they were joined Taliban. you know one of them as Engineer with his wife a practing Doctor and their lil baby, because last time agencies were searching them...these people were not of Madara as well...we are using force and converting many many moderate and securlar muslims to Taliban, I'm strong convinced by the Imran khan that by every raid on Taliban we multiplying the number of Taliban...we have tried a decade with power, these people were alternatively fighting in Kashmir to liberate it so as to give them their right of determination...


On other thread we are saying it SAudi Arab which is giving the funds to terrorists...we need to check out how our PM Benazir went to USA to strongly urge to stop funds to Mujahidin : she strongly opposed United States support of Afghan Mujaheddin which she labeled them as "America's Frankestein" during her first state visit to United States in 1989. Many even suspect that USA need a reason to be in this region so it is extending war and it is providing the funds through other client state (God knows best) to TALIBAN. We we always a way that lead us to the war which is not a solution to the problem of our stability...Why USA can't understand that when USSR was there then we were by all ways able to go all sincereity as our nation's soul was not involved...but when it comes a muslim to muslim war then your highness your own revived compaign JEHAD does not flourish but more FASAAD...so we have to admit that even Govt remain sincere ...When we fight with you USSR then we were not a terrorist nation and not massacre...We don't say USA is our enemy but it must have to understand our default problems about Taliban (as pointed by Imran) whatever even if we don't own their suicide bombing strategy but we are the ordinary people who are suffered more beacuse of their image the whole world....
But question why Pakistan must not solve its own problems when it's own stability is in stake and it is jumping into the war and flame every time...GIVE US A BREAK FROM WAR and PULL OUT ARMY FROM KILLING BUT USE IT FOR REHABILITATION OF ECONOMY OR POVERTY, WATER PROBLEMS....We must stop bashing any other nations either it is ISRAEL OR INDIA OR KSA AND IRAN ETC...


I was just couple of weeks ago very very much shocked when I spoke to a friend who was back after their short visit from EGYPT...that friend was talking about problems of EGYPT and said that protest and engergy crisis was problem...I guess you people have enough gas, then why such drought of gas ...she said MUBARK given gas (oil perhaps) to Israel...I said to my friend in a shock do you have such relations with ISRAEL . I instantly jumped and given a proud speech that you know what 'we have not yet recognised Israel and my passport explicity says that 'it is valid for all countries except ISRAEL'...I was expecting my friend will be impressed by speech but converse happen
..my friend said yes now ISRAEL is there as our neighbour and we can't rub it's existance. All we can do is to stop (a moral support) it from committing attrocities on Palestinen brother which we not support either...so I talk to other egyption friend so people take them lightly, but we speak as agaist as if we will having trades (as arab doing) or any relations will make us sinnful...Why we can't negotiate ISRAEL to stop its intention to attack our brother IRAN...IRAN must give some proof that it will serve as responsible state though only its missile range will be upto ISRAEL

Proliferation of weapon is more than hypocrisy...at one end you keep poor nations in the state of decades of war and stimulating them to buy your weapons 'for decoration purposes' and you your self can have nuclear bomb as you are a king...when Japan try to convince back not to go for nuclear explosion in 1998 then Pakista replied good that just tell us if you were having neclear weapons eqally like USA? Do you think USA had ruined your two ciities (barbarik)...i was going through those cities genocitde and it can't be mentioned how peoples skins was ....and how they were saying water water please and then after having water died...AHA we so-called human rights protector and super powers!


I learnt the person who pushed the button (what so ever) got metally sick and died with such condition (God knows but it was said in newspaper)... We remember China as our best friend, we must have to remember that Saudi Arab has provided during wars more support even it needed no biz or any gawadar support...we have faisalabad city ...we have faisal mosque...I was going through Hasbe hall and JUNAID was telling how king kissed Nawaz Sharif and welcome him like king after neuclear explosion in 1998 and it was KSAs support and promption that Nawaz took step...I guess it is the same situation like in 2001 Taliban were our tested ally and we went agaist them to support President Karzai (though they are our as brother as Taliban are) and now same happening we are bashing Saudi arab and going towards war side (I'm no expert)...plus we should just focus to our peoples dieing problems ..they are wealthy nations with oil (though Allah has given us every resources but we need concentration and time to give to our problems like BD and India not went to the international problems practically but were steeping and creeping their problem and we lagging behind...now war (competition) should not be on millitary race but more towards the develpment parameters)...

I'm sure mostly people in the Government are shittes so they are looking shittes ....We are so idiot how our leader preach us and media do we think same....always towards war...

please apologies as I just spoken my heart but not proficient in politics, I'm afraid

I even think it is Pakistan who accomodated a huge Afghanis brother (top most ever in world according to UN I guess), even neibouring remained almost partial in practical sense...but why Pakistan think it is the responsibility of its to go for wars of others on global war on terror...why not others VERY BIG countries in ASIA who don't have problems like us should not go...as they know it is a fake war...




=========JUSt to see below article how others (IRAN) have rightly poke to their problems=======================Chief Reporter
NEW DELHI: India on Friday snubbed Iran over remarks made by Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Kashmir.
New Delhi on Friday summoned Iran’s Charge D’ Affairs Reza Alaei and expressed India’s “deep disappointment and regret” over the remarks.
Sources said that Iranian envoy told Y.K Sinha; Joint Secretary in charge of Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan in India’s External Affairs Ministry; Iran considers the situation in Jammu and Kashmir is an internal matter of India.
The sources said while raising these remarks with Iran, India has asked it to be “mindful” of its “core concerns”.
External Affairs Ministry sources added that every time India has raised the issue with Iran, Tehran has told New Delhi that there was no change in its official position on Jammu and Kashmir that the situation in the State was an internal matter of India. In his address to the Haj Pilgrims in Tehran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had exhorted Islamic Ummah to support the Muslims in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Kashmir.
He said that “today the major duties of the elite of the Islamic Ummah is to provide help to the Palestinian nation and the besieged people of Gaza, to sympathise and provide assistance to the nations of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Kashmir, to engage in struggle and resistance against the aggressions of the United States and the Zionist regime, to safeguard the solidarity of Muslims….”.
Since July this year, Iran has on three occasions remarked supporting the “struggle” in Kashmir and bracketed the situation in the State with that in Gaza and Afghanistan.
To express its displeasure and tit-for-tat reply, India on Thursday also abstained from voting on a UN resolution on human rights violations in Iran, which was piloted by Canada and other countries. Earlier, India has always voted against the resolution.
In an official reaction, Ministry of External Affairs said “our decision on the vote was made after due deliberation”. While 80 countries voted in favour of the resolution, 44 voted against it and 57 countries abstained.The voting pattern on the resolutions on Iranian human rights record in the past few years has shown a steady increase in the number of countries questioning Tehran’s human rights record.
However, the sources refused to treat Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s remarks as “major setback” to the overall relationship, saying that the two countries have civilisational links and share a similarity of views on many issues.
They also maintained that India attaches highest priority to its projects with Iran and these remarks will not impact the other facets of the relationship.
Earlier in October, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman condemned Indian action against protesters in Jammu and Kashmir who were provoked by clippings of alleged desecration of the Koran in the US.
Spokesperson Ramin Mehmanparast had said to counter such protests could be “interpreted as supporting acts of sacrilege.” Later, he said it was “perfectly acceptable for Muslims to react to the desecration of the Koran” and called upon the Indian Government to show “self-restraint”.

Very welll said brother......

 

[illusion8]

he's probably one of the graduates of the wahabi madarasas that these saudis fund. Either that or he's been living in a cave for the past few decades.

From NY to Pakistan, to Iraq and Africa, saudis are famous for one wonderful export: suicide bombers.

Include India as well, just heard SA is sponsoring wahhabis in J&K to take out the past rallies and to fight against the majority barelvis.

 

[kshahzad]

i will also requst you to kindly remove this thread

 

[Cheetah786]

i will also request you to kindly remove this thread

Whats the matter you afraid this will expose the real enemy of Pakistan.

I know several Jews from Iran. They left after 1979, though some members of their families stayed behind. There's some sort of shadow over them; they won't speak of the current regime. That doesn't strike me as very happy.

They go back and forth between Israel and Iran at will yet they come back to Iran that itself speaks volumes.

 

[Al Bhatti]

Anything against Arabs/KSA is a treasure trove for the Iranians and their group on this forum no matter how old the treasure may be or how many times it may have been debated.

Article is dated Monday 06 December 2010

 

[Luftwaffe]

Anything against Arabs/KSA is a treasure trove for the Iranians and their group on this forum no matter how old the treasure may be or how many times it may have been debated.

Article is dated Monday 06 December 2010

All Articles from 70's - 012 should-must be posted for the Globe Internet users to read the Truth.

The Fact is RSA has literally destroyed Pakistan and Afghanistan, the list and interests expands afghanistan, yemen, morocco, egypt, syria, palatine, Pakistan, nigeria, sudan, algeria, jordan and a few more infested with saudi funding training locals and exporting-importing terrorists deliberately putting bad name to Religion and think some day these monsters would protect kingdom in their names, see if they would give a rat *** to these sheikhs. Let all of us see the long term planning, saudi funding to create terrorists deal with western power namely us of a and plan is prepared every 8-10 years to invade an islamic country to steal resources and cripple them where saudis and masters with imf-world bank and so called islamic bank can come to them for help in the name of brotherhood and make some more money out of them in the name of loving interest rates. This is an old successful game deployed by western powers and certain arabian nations namely rsa, u.a.e, qatar.

 

[Cheetah786]

Anything against Arabs/KSA is a treasure trove for the Iranians and their group on this forum no matter how old the treasure may be or how many times it may have been debated.

Article is dated Monday 06 December 2010

wow what a wonder full world we live in where Terrorism and 1000s of people dead can be called Anything

no matter how old the treasure may be or how many times it may have been debated.

its being debated over and over again as some people still don't get it and continue to pretend its just a propaganda and not real but if 1000s of dead is treasures for you then 1 can see why some people are bothered by rest of us questioning it. no bother to you.

 

[HZR2011]

Whats was no 1. Terrorist Osama Bin Laden's Nationality??? You know


Anyway those Saudis are know for spreading terrorism all over the world...at the same time they are dumb and live in centuries back....when Cars run on different source of fuel other than oil,which will be reality soon,those saudi's will travel on camel and beg for water..and terrorism all over the world will come down and human race will live in peace..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Whats was no 1. Terrorist Osama Bin Laden's Nationality??? You know


Anyway those Saudis are know for spreading terrorism all over the world...at the same time they are dumb and live in centuries back....when Cars run on different source of fuel other than oil,which will be reality soon,those saudi's will travel on camel and beg for water..and terrorism all over the world will come down and human race will live in peace..

Seriously?

You're saying that without Saudi Arabia, the human race would be living in peace?

 

[somebozo]

Islam has been distorted beyond recognition. It high time that we take a iron fist approach to secularism like Turkey did. That will cool down the matters a lot.