Saudi Arabia Has Devastated Pakistan’s History of Religious Tolerance and Diversity

[coffee_cup]

Both Pakistan and India are devastated by the religious Fundos.

Whereas Pakistan has started to recover from it now and there is absolutely no chance that a religious party will come to power in the foreseeable future.

Same can not be said about India though. Where they exclusively elect the religious fundamentalists as their PM. So it is really a cause for worry.

 

[faisal6309]

but why shelter for muslims only ? it should be shelter for all oppressed ?

Who was oppressed other than Muslims? Sikhs were on your side. Parsis were happy in their positions. Who else wanted shelter??

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Why are you talking about poor again and again? Pakistan was created for giving shelter to Muslims from extremist Hindu majority of that time. Do you know how many problems happened just because of Muslims slaughtering cows at that time?

And that is where it is wrong. Since minorities are suffering from extremist majority in Pakistan, is it ok for you to divide the country again ? No sir. Its wrong. Division is never a solution. Uprooting the extremism is the only solution.

 

[faisal6309]

Both Pakistan and India are devastated by the religious Fundos.

Whereas Pakistan has started to recover from it now and there is absolutely no chance that a religious party will come to power in the foreseeable future.

Same can not be said about India though. Where they exclusively elect the religious fundamentalists as their PM. So it is really a cause for worry.

In India, that party wins who say most against Pakistan. YouTube has tons of videos of Narendra Modi talking against Pakistan in his election campaign. Pakistan has done really well against religious extremists but this element cannot be completely eliminated from any society. Check Soviet Union and their actions against religion.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Who was oppressed other than Muslims? Sikhs were on your side. Parsis were happy in their positions. Who else wanted shelter??

Poor people , farmers, laborers etc, everyone was oppressed.

 

[coffee_cup]

Poor people , farmers, laborers etc, everyone was oppressed.

So who else are you going to push out of India?

- Yoga opposer
- people talking about peace
- people who oppose ghar wapsi
- people who want to eat beef
- Dalits
- Muslims
- Christians

Who else?

 

[Ajit Kumar]

So who else are you going to push out of India?

- Yoga opposer
- people talking about peace
- people who oppose ghar wapsi
- people who want to eat beef
- Dalits
- Muslims
- Christians

Who else?

Post reported.

 

[faisal6309]

And that is where it is wrong. Since minorities are suffering from extremist majority in Pakistan, is it ok for you to divide the country again ? No sir. Its wrong. Division is never a solution. Uprooting the extremism is the only solution.

Have you ever read about British India history?? It seems like you need to learn more about it. Do you know divide and rule policy of British?
It was Hindus who started this. Religion was element that was used by all sides. Nehru wanted to be in power so always rejecting Muslims proposals that could have brought peace. Jinnah worked in both congress and Muslim League for unified India but your Hindu leaders kept oppressing Muslims. No jobs for Muslims and no religious freedom. That is why Muslims started asking for independent state.

This is not the case in Pakistan. Shias are seens as Muslims except deobands with their headquarter in India and wahhabis / Salafis with their headquarters in Saudi Arabia. What happened with Ahmaddis was because of Bhutto. I still blame him for giving power to these scums.

Poor people , farmers, laborers etc, everyone was oppressed.

No Hindu poor people , farmers, laborers etc were slaughtered in Pakistan after independence.

 

[coffee_cup]

Have you ever read about British India history?? It seems like you need to learn more about it. Do you know divide and rule policy of British?
It was Hindus who started this. Religion was element that was used by all sides. Nehru wanted to be in power so always rejecting Muslims proposals that could have brought peace. Jinnah worked in both congress and Muslim League for unified India but your Hindu leaders kept oppressing Muslims. No jobs for Muslims and no religious freedom. That is why Muslims started asking for independent state.

This is not the case in Pakistan. Shias are seens as Muslims except deobands with their headquarter in India and wahhabis / Salafis with their headquarters in Saudi Arabia. What happened with Ahmaddis was because of Bhutto. I still blame him for giving power to these scums.


No Hindu poor people , farmers, laborers etc were slaughtered in Pakistan after independence.

You are beating around the bush bro, he is a known troll.

 

[faisal6309]

If you are talking about religious oppression than all oppressed minorities where the majority is another community.

What have you done for your poor people , farmers, laborers etc after al most 68 years?
Shelter for Muslims of India not Jews of Germany or Indians of America.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Have you ever read about British India history?? It seems like you need to learn more about it. Do you know divide and rule policy of British?
It was Hindus who started this. Religion was element that was used by all sides. Nehru wanted to be in power so always rejecting Muslims proposals that could have brought peace. Jinnah worked in both congress and Muslim League for unified India but your Hindu leaders kept oppressing Muslims. No jobs for Muslims and no religious freedom. That is why Muslims started asking for independent state.

This is not the case in Pakistan. Shias are seens as Muslims except deobands with their headquarter in India and wahhabis / Salafis with their headquarters in Saudi Arabia.


No Hindu poor people , farmers, laborers etc were slaughtered in Pakistan after independence.

again you did not get my point. If Hindu extremists were doing this then the solution was uprooting extremism from society, not division. You are now blaming it on hindus. Same can be said about Pakistan but I wont say.
this particular statement

""This is not the case in Pakistan. Shias are seens as Muslims except deobands with their headquarter in India and wahhabis / Salafis with their headquarters in Saudi Arabia."

is wrong in many aspects. Other minorities are there too. No sir, division is not the solution.

Add this to your signature: "Post Reported". Then you won't need to write it in every post,

So now back on topic: Why don't you ask people in India to stop electing religious fanatic hindus, so that this religious fundamentalism is not rewarded but discouraged.

Just like we do in Pakistan - we do not give them any majority to come to power.



You are beating around the bush bro, he is a known troll.

Post reported for trolling.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

What have you done for your poor people , farmers, laborers etc after al most 68 years?
Shelter for Muslims of India not Jews of Germany or Indians of America.

Not much. Same as Pakistan. But division on that basis is wrong.

 

[SecularNationalist]

I agree with the above except one thing.
she said there were shias in the higher posts bu they are still in the higher posts.Zardari was a shia and some top generals too are shias.This article is a little bit more exaggerating.

 

[coffee_cup]

The thread is not about India, its about Pakistan open a new thread and I will answer there. again post reported.

Thread is about religious fundamentalism and lack of tolerance.

Both Pakistan and India suffer from it. In Pakistan we are on a corrective path, whereas in India they are electing such people to power.

So both are interconnected.

 

[MastanKhan]

???
I thought the article makes sense and ergo posted it here. Very often I have heard it from Pakistanis that their country was a very open society till some decades back, that is till the Saudi-Pakistan friendship grew deeper.

Hi,

Indeed this article is 99.9% true---. Zia Ul Haq was a curse for the nation---and to top it off---we later got Nawaz Sharif. The sanctions played a further part in radicalization.

 

[faisal6309]

again you did not get my point. If Hindu extremists were doing this then the solution was uprooting extremism from society, not division. You are now blaming it on hindus. Same can be said about Pakistan but I wont say.
this particular statement

""This is not the case in Pakistan. Shias are seens as Muslims except deobands with their headquarter in India and wahhabis / Salafis with their headquarters in Saudi Arabia."

is wrong in many aspects. Other minorities are there too. No sir, division is not the solution.

Shias have more freedom than Middle East. They know that and are on side of military. As for other minorities, most of them are happy because they don't have big impact on religiom basis. Only problem os with Ahmaddi community.

Now as you said "If Hindu extremists were doing this then the solution was uprooting extremism from society, not division". Hindus were in power not Muslims. Full control was in vice roy's hand. Blame British and Hindus for division and not Muslims. We are blowing extremistsbon our soil. Would you have done the same thing?

Go and take history lessons. I am not going to reply you again.