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Saudi Arabia becomes latest buyer of Russian S-400 system

Saudi-Russian ties stronger than ever, say experts
Ilyas Salavatov | Published — Saturday 7 October 2017
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A panel of scholars and officials discuss Saudi-Russian ties on the sidelines of King Salman’s state visit, in Moscow on Friday.

MOSCOW: Saudi-Russian relations are stronger than ever, scholars and officials from both countries said Friday during a panel discussion in Moscow on the sidelines of King Salman’s state visit.
Houda Al-Helaisi, a member of the Saudi Shoura Council, said both countries are trying their best to improve ties, and the king’s visit has helped in this regard.
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman visited Russia last year.
“What we’re witnessing represents solid ground for better relations in various sectors,” Al-Helaisi said.
“We should concentrate more on cultural affairs, because culture is the field of cooperation and communication, while politics is always related to rivalry and competition,” said Maria Dubovikova, president of the International Middle Eastern Studies Club.
Saleh Al-Khathlan, vice president of the Riyadh-based National Society for Human Rights, said despite some differences between Russia and Saudi Arabia, “we’re on the right track.”
He added: “Our two countries are key players in regional stability and in energy. They reached an agreement that stabilized oil prices. We’re the two biggest oil producers, and our cooperation is a must to stabilize the market.”
Shoura member Noura Al-Yousuf said Saudi Arabia is thoroughly implementing its Vision 2030 reform plan.
“We’re working hard to boost small and medium-size enterprises (SMEs) to offer job opportunities,” she added.
“SMEs at present contribute only 20 percent of Saudi Arabia’s GDP (gross domestic product). We want to improve it to 35 percent.”
The Kingdom seeks to localize more than 50 percent of its military industries and 75 percent of its oil and gas sector, Al-Yousuf said.
“We seek to rise from our current position of 25 to the top 10 countries on the Global Competitiveness Index,” she added.
“We’re also working on increasing FDI (foreign direct investment) from 3.8 to 5.7 percent of GDP, and raising the private sector’s contribution from 40 to 65 percent of GDP,” she said. “The share of non-oil exports in non-oil GDP will increase from 16 to 50 percent by 2030.”
Saudi businesswoman Basma Omair said women have a major role to play in achieving Vision 2030.
“Women are playing a big role in our economy… There are no hindrances that prevent us from achieving our goals.”

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1173651/saudi-arabia

They'll buy more jets too?

Congratulations though, I like the air force too.. F-15 is my fav.

In general or from Russia?

Yes, in particular the F-15SA

This Is A Fully Armed F-15SA, The Most Advanced Production Eagle Ever

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The F-15SA is the most advanced production F-15 Eagle ever built. Saudi Arabia ordered 84 new build F-15SAs and close to 70 kits to upgrade their existing F-15S fleet to the SA configuration. Just one part of this upgrade is the activation of Eagle’s outboard wing stores stations, which will expand the jet’s already heavy combat punch.

Update: Boeing reached out to tell us they’re marketing the F-15SA configuration for export to other potential users as the “F-15 Advanced.”

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A Saudi Arabian F-15S sits on the main ramp at Nellis AFB during Red Flag
The F-15SA is an incredibly capable machine, featuring some key changes from its progenitor, the F-15E Strike Eagle. These include a full fly-by-wire flight control system, APG-63V3 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, digital electronic warfare and radar warning suite, missile launch detection system, updated flat-panel display cockpits with helmet mounted displays in both cockpits and an infrared search and track system, known as “Tiger Eyes,” built into the left intake targeting pod pylon. The F-15SA also features F-110- GE-129 engines, capable of putting out almost 30,000 pounds of thrust each.

When it comes to weapons, the F-15SA can carry almost anything in the inventory. In the incredible image above showing an “extreme multi-role loadout” it packs: 2x AIM-120AMRAAMs, 2x AIM-9X Sidewinders, 2x AGM-84 SLAM-ERs, 2x AGM-88 HARMs, 6x GBU-54/B Laser JDAMs, and 8x GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs.

Also, the F-15SA still packs the F-15E’s 20mm Vulcan cannon with 540 rounds available. Basically, with this jet you get a tactical fighter force “in a box.” The loadout shown above includes weapons for long-range stand-off deep-strike, suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD), counter-air, direct precision attack and standoff precision attack all on the jet at the same time. Even after all that, the F-15SA’s center-line station remains unused, which can accommodate up to a 2,000lb JDAM, an external fuel tank or even a synthetic aperture radar surveillance pod.

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The image above shows the F-15SA once again, albeit this time it is in an air-to-air configuration, including no less than eight AIM-120 AMRAAMs and eight AIM-9X Sidewinders. This amounts to double the missile carrying capability of the F-15C or F-15E. Also note the Infrared Search and Track system mounted above the jet’s radome. This, combined with its state of the art radar’s low probability of intercept modes, advanced radar warning receiver and Link 16 data-link, allows the F-15SA to hunt for enemy aircraft in electromagnetic silence while still maintain high-situational awareness.


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Boeing’s Silent Eagle features internal weapons bays in its conformal fuel tanks and low-observable improvements such as canted tails, radar absorbent coatings and radar blockers on its engine fan faces. The aircraft can be converted to a large load carrying non-stealthy configuration much like the F-15SA in a matter of hours.

Many of the improvements made in the penultimate F-15SA were also rolled into the even more advanced and stealthier F-15 Silent Eagle, an aircraft that has not found a customer in the fighter marketplace yet, especially since South Korea chose to procure the F-35 on its last fighter buy and other F-15 operators, like Japan, Israel, also did the same. Even if the Eagle line ends with the F-15SA, it is amazing how far the aircraft has come since its original use as an attack aircraft some 30 years ago.

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Photos via Boeing, F-15S Red Flag Shot Via Author/Foxtrot Alpha

This Is A Fully Armed F-15SA, The Most Advanced Production Eagle Ever

https://theaviationist.com/2017/04/...delivered-to-saudi-arabia-via-raf-lakenheath/

I also believe that KSA, UAE and others in the region (Egypt possibly) will be interested in the F-35. It's a question of time and not if IMO.

Anyway I am looking forward to Iraq holding military exercises with its Arab brothers once again soon.

The combined ‘THAAD and Patriot systems’ are already doing the job perfectly.





There is only one explanation - no other - for this purchase. The S-400 system will protect future nuclear research and production facilities from all potential threat from the West, in particular Isra ...


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Bro, as @Bubblegum Crisis stated that is only a theory but in my view not a very feasible one. We are talking about peaceful nuclear energy here. Just like UAE (their nuclear power plant (Barakah) is almost finished). First one in the region.





UAE confirms first nuclear power plant to open in 2018

Energy Minister Suhail Mohammed al-Mazrouei says first of four reactors is now 96% complete

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The United Arab Emirates on Monday announced plans to open a nuclear power plant next year, in what would be a first for the emirate and the Arab Gulf region.

The $20 billion Barakah plant west of Abu Dhabi is being constructed by a consortium led by Korea Electric Power Corp.

"We have reached the advanced stages," UAE Energy Minister Suhail Mohammed al-Mazrouei said.

Mazrouei said the first of four UAE nuclear reactors was 96 percent complete and would "definitely" start up next year after delays following safety checks.

He gave no exact date.

When fully operational, the four reactors will produce 5,600 megawatts of electricity.

Mazrouei said that "clean" energy was slated to make up 27 percent of the UAE's energy sources by 2021.

The oil-rich UAE aims to continue diversifying toward its goal of 50-percent clean energy by 2050.

Mazrouei announced that Abu Dhabi would soon host another first of its kind for the Gulf region: the International Ministerial Conference on Nuclear Power in the 21st Century.

The three-day conference starting October 30 would be organised by the International Atomic Energy Agency and discuss challenges related to nuclear power as well as innovations and technological advances.

Representatives from around 150 countries are expected to attend.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/indu...rms-first-nuclear-power-plant-to-open-in-2018

BTW Iraq has also decided to once again (wisely) pursue nuclear energy. Nuclear power is old technology BTW.
 
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The S400 in Saudi Arabia? Well..Well..The Saudi monarch was met in Moscow by the Mayor of Moscow, which in diplomatic lingo..Putin didn't care to see him...and that can tell a lot on the future acquisition of the Russian best hardware...ZERO!
Russia is not going to upset Iran, a solid partner in war against ISIS, and a strategic partner 2 blocks away from her southern border, for an evil country..


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@The Eagle can you deal with this serial troll who does nothing but pollute this otherwise very peaceful and informative section with nonsense, trolling and his usual inferiority complexes?

they really need it yemenis firing daily missiles on ksa

99% of them are intercepted. Fire-crackers in other words. Small artillery across the almost 2000 km, mostly highly mountainous border, on border villages, does not count as "missiles". Yemen has one of the most ballistic missiles in the region indeed but they have used most of them already with no gains.

Yemenis here being = Houthi terrorist cultists and crooked people in the Yemeni army loyal to the former dictator (highly incompetent) Ali Abdullah Saleh, that the Yemeni people themselves removed from power not many years ago. The Yemeni military is on the side of justice and the Arab Coalition of course. The Houthis are getting spanked and control less than 12% of Yemen. Their end is soon near like that of Daesh and other terrorist cult groups in the Arab world. I can post 100's of photos of dead Houthi/Saleh soldiers on a weekly basis but this is not allowed here. I have already linked to Twitter accounts that show this and military forums. They are getting spanked, no two ways about it. To such an extend that they are using child soldiers. Just like Daesh.
 
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You might have returned from ban number 101 but you forgot to take your medicine!

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Go worry about the senile "wheelchair guy" that has been ruling your incompetent military dictatorship (sadly as we will always wish our Algerian brothers and sisters the best at all times - even if there are a few idiots among their ranks like everywhere - in fact I highly doubt that you have anything to do with Algeria when I look at your behavior here) instead of posting the usual crap that everyone is tired of hearing, including your few countrymen here!

@The Eagle can you deal with this serial troll who does nothing but pollute this otherwise very peaceful and informative section with nonsense, trolling and his usual inferiority complexes?



99% of them are intercepted. Fire-crackers in other words. Small artillery across the almost 2000 km, mostly highly mountainous border, on border villages, does not count as "missiles". Yemen has one of the most ballistic missiles in the region indeed but they have used most of them already with no gains.

Yemenis here being = Houthi terrorist cultists and crooked people in the Yemeni army loyal to the former dictator (highly incompetent) Ali Abdullah Saleh, that the Yemeni people themselves removed from power not many years ago. The Yemeni military is on the side of justice and the Arab Coalition of course. The Houthis are getting spanked and control less than 12% of Yemen. Their end is soon near like that of Daesh and other cult groups in the Arab world.
what cause of failing to neutralize Yemeni missiles . intelligence failure or forces failure ? they must be neutralized first week of war .
 
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what cause of failing to neutralize Yemeni missiles . intelligence failure or forces failure ? they must be neutralized first week of war .

Most of the launching pads and launching sides have been destroyed. However Yemen is a big country (almost as big as Iraq and Syria combined to put things into perspective) and Yemen has a long history of being familiar with ballistic missiles and other types of missile technology thanks to close and historical ties to USSR. Anyway, as I wrote, almost all missiles have been shot down and those that have not have mostly hit empty mountains, desert or farmland. What is a bigger problem is small artillery hitting border towns which due to geographic are located just next to the "non-existent" border. It is similar to parts of the Pakistani-Afghan border.

Anyway this is not intended for Yemen or anyone else in particular. Nor THAAD or the existing Patriot system.
 
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Bro, as @Bubblegum Crisis stated that is only a theory but in my view not a very feasible one. We are talking about peaceful nuclear energy here. Just like UAE (their nuclear power plant (Barakah) is almost finished). First one in the region.

Why ? The goal is not to have the bomb - now - ‘but not less than the others’ and this is no-negotiable.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/shuk...n-the-arabs-and-is.517488/page-2#post-9865044


The S-400 system will protect that.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saud...ssian-s-400-system.521665/page-3#post-9921565


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Why ? The goal is not to have the bomb - now - ‘but not less than the others’ and this is no-negotiable.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/shuk...n-the-arabs-and-is.517488/page-2#post-9865044


The S-400 system will protect that.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saud...ssian-s-400-system.521665/page-3#post-9921565


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Yes, that is the plan of course. Absorbing all the knowledge necessary. An ongoing process (King Abdullah City for Atomic and Renewable Energy)

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-o-s/saudi-arabia.aspx

However we are not in a position to do such a thing currently IMO if the West (USA) would want to destroy this progress/plans. S-400 will help a little but not fully, I am afraid. In the future this situation might change but I doubt it as the US will always be stronger. Unless Russia or China could protect us which I find doubtful. Just look at Iran or in the past Libya, Syria and Iraq.

USA will not even allow Japan or Germany to acquire nuclear weapons. Let alone KSA!

Also see this brother:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons

What is your opinion about this "problem" for not only KSA but most Arab if not all Arab countries? It is not limited to KSA and Arab countries but almost all (if not all) Muslim countries, developing ones and regional ones.
 
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Russia and Iran (former Persian Empire) were one of most hostile rivals.
It was never real alliance, never was and never will be. Assad was only thing they agree.
Russian Empire was bane of Persian Empire, they took control of C. Asia from the hand of Persian Shah.
 
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USA will not even allow Japan or Germany to acquire nuclear weapons. Let alone KSA!

Also see this brother:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons

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Reaching “the nuclear threshold” and all missile vector technologies is amply sufficient.

No need to get the whole world against oneself.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program#De_facto_nuclear_state

Epsilon

Toshiyuki Shikata, a Tokyo Metropolitan Government adviser and former lieutenant general, said that part of the rationale for the fifth M-V Hayabusa mission, from 2003 to 2010, was that the re-entry and landing of its return capsule demonstrated “that Japan's ballistic missile capability is credible.”



Hayabusa



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Nuclear-capable_state

Hyunmoo (Hyunmoo-3D/Hyunmoo-4)


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Reaching “the nuclear threshold” and all missile vector technologies is amply sufficient.

No need to get the whole world against oneself.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program#De_facto_nuclear_state

Epsilon

Toshiyuki Shikata, a Tokyo Metropolitan Government adviser and former lieutenant general, said that part of the rationale for the fifth M-V Hayabusa mission, from 2003 to 2010, was that the re-entry and landing of its return capsule demonstrated “that Japan's ballistic missile capability is credible.”



Hayabusa



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Nuclear-capable_state

Hyunmoo (Hyunmoo-3D/Hyunmoo-4)


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Yes, of course brother, but what if this (in my eyes inevitable) process is hijacked by outsiders (in this case the West = USA, most likely with Israeli support) what could then be done? It is a legitimate question. I don't think that KSA will turn into another Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. but I do believe that certain parties will do their best to prevent KSA from becoming a "nuclear threshold state".

Anyway as I keep saying, nuclear technology is old technology. Even North Korea has developed nuclear weapons. KSA could in theory quite easily do it eventually. The most difficult part here is the political aspect and the political/military/economic consequences of such a decision.
 
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Yes, of course brother, but what if this (in my eyes inevitable) process is hijacked by outsiders (in this case the West = USA, most likely with Israeli support) what could then be done? It is a legitimate question. I don't think that KSA will turn into another Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. but I do believe that certain parties will do their best to prevent KSA from becoming a "nuclear threshold state".

Anyway as I keep saying, nuclear technology is old technology. Even North Korea has developed nuclear weapons. KSA could in theory quite easily do it eventually. The most difficult part here is the political aspect and the political/military/economic consequences of such a decision.


Jordan obtained enrichment with Russia - See Flashback -.

Turkey obtained enrichment with Russia.

Ankara ‘adds’ uranium clause in nuclear deal with Tokyo (January/08/2014)


I really do not see how they can stop us (Country more major).


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I presume Iran will not be pleased by this. Thought Russia was in their corner, from weapons to Syria. Are the Saudis no longer interested in ousting Assad too? Interesting times.
Iran will def not be pleased, but Iran might also know that it will take Saudis years to master and use these these systems very well.And some missiles still get through. Houthis have used missiles successfully AND unsuccessfully against KSA. Its very expensive too! KSA's military has shown from the Yemen war that she can pack a punch(with help from many others as we all know)but can it get a win? Saudis will probably say they are more concerned about the sunnis in Syria(and Iraq), which is fair enough.but outsting Assad isnt realistically possible for them and they know that. Russia is in their "corner",just like China is, and just like India is trying to be also. These world powers gain in multiple ways from military sales "across the board"..so no regional power gets enough of an upper hand on any foe that they soon consider military action a good option against that party. This sale is also significant because its Russia solid entry into a NEW, good market. When will actual deliveries happen? I read Russia saying she will deliver the batteries "soon". Lol. Saudis might also need MORE and more expensive weapons, in order to compensate for other perceived/real insecurities/disadvantages. Does Saudis REALLY have ALL this money to spend on weapons? i heard about the MBS plan for new economy by 2030 or something, but where's the money for that? i heard some salaries were not being paid on time for some workers recently there. why slow money now for those workers? Even ARAMCO IPO launch is apparently delayed. Oil is being seen more bearishly in general.But IMO it will still be relevant for a while. What about ground forces and naval forces VS BM attack that needs THAAD? You;re so busy "protecting" your national skies but are you able and ready to stop a sneaky land invasion?

Anyway as I keep saying, nuclear technology is old technology. Even North Korea has developed nuclear weapons. KSA could in theory quite easily do it eventually. The most difficult part here is the political aspect and the political/military/economic consequences of such a decision.
North Korea has developed nuclear weapons? Well dont you realize they also had to get parts and components for what they have now from China? China is an advanced country IMO as of today,so that nuclear tech they have or are giving NK is not that old IMO. How many coountries have actual mastery of running nuclear facilities? If its really only old technology how come only few countries have it then? why not "everyone"?
 
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Yes, of course brother, but what if this (in my eyes inevitable) process is hijacked by outsiders (in this case the West = USA, most likely with Israeli support) what could then be done? It is a legitimate question. I don't think that KSA will turn into another Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. but I do believe that certain parties will do their best to prevent KSA from becoming a "nuclear threshold state".

Anyway as I keep saying, nuclear technology is old technology. Even North Korea has developed nuclear weapons. KSA could in theory quite easily do it eventually. The most difficult part here is the political aspect and the political/military/economic consequences of such a decision.
@Bubblegum Crisis means mastering the full nuclear cycle..from mining Uranium to enriching it to a certain civilian percentage, 5 to 20% enrichment is what is allowed for civilian use..Also reactor technology, sophisticated controls and last but not least, Uranium recycling and disposal..
 
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what cause of failing to neutralize Yemeni missiles . intelligence failure or forces failure ? they must be neutralized first week of war .
There is no 100 percent accurate system in the world to counter missile. Nations has adopt many strategy to counter missile shield. Many dummy dodging system are built in the world. All these system and backup is very expensive. Imagine Isreal shoot 1 million dollar rocket to knock down 200 dollar palastinian rocket.
 
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