Saudi Arabia announces formation of Islamic military coalition of 34 States.

[HAIDER]

Shias in Pakistan will pick Pakistan over Iran and it's ayatollah, any time.


Are you retarded or are you a false flagger? Terrorism is near dead, the last terrorists are hiding in Shawal valley, an area surrounded and being pounded by the military, Sindhis nor MQM are demanding a seperate "region"; they asked for another province for better maintenance, let Afghanistan claim whatever the hell they want - it doesnt and will never effect us, Baluch "uprising" is hated throughout Balochistan and hundreds of them surrendered throughout this year alone - they now number in less than 200 and are hiding in mountain caves. Dont even compare India to Pakistan, we are atleast a decade ahead of them - this isnt a bollywood movie - 60% of the Indian populate defecates on the ground and your telling me India is "riding on the moon".

So, if someone oppose to send Pak army to Arab land, mean he is supporter of Iranian and must be shia.............lolzzzzz....unbelievable ....these ayatullah resolve all their disputes with US and EU. Suadi increasing defence relation with your arch rival India. UAE prefer Indian over Pakistani....go visit UAE and if you in any specialized field go apply for job.....face the reality, our majority of people are toad in the well.

You have no counter argument and i/o accepting wholeheartedly just beating around the bush.



Just like random poor kids on the street, whenever went speechless, comes down to abusing and name calling....keep it up.



Saving Allies......Saving Pakistan!!

Any allies came to support us on Kashmir issue...................anyone, of came to help us when Pakistan was and is burning in the fire of terrorism....

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

 

[HAIDER]

Shias in Pakistan will pick Pakistan over Iran and it's ayatollah, any time.


Are you retarded or are you a false flagger? Terrorism is near dead, the last terrorists are hiding in Shawal valley, an area surrounded and being pounded by the military, Sindhis nor MQM are demanding a seperate "region"; they asked for another province for better maintenance, let Afghanistan claim whatever the hell they want - it doesnt and will never effect us, Baluch "uprising" is hated throughout Balochistan and hundreds of them surrendered throughout this year alone - they now number in less than 200 and are hiding in mountain caves. Dont even compare India to Pakistan, we are atleast a decade ahead of them - this isnt a bollywood movie - 60% of the Indian populate defecates on the ground and your telling me India is "riding on the moon".

Dream on baby, you have terrorist sympathizer in parliament and in the city. They have political ubrella. Mullah Abdul Aziz sitting in capital and daily challenge rit of state......anyone out there to stop or punish him ?????..o yeah , this mullah is another Suadi funded element in the capital.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

How do you say that? And why not?

First law of nature is self preservation. Pakistan faces mortal threats on our borders. If we send out troops to this war then there will be false flag terrorist attacks on the Pakistani defense, strategic and nuclear installations which will be falsely attributed to the militant groups in Middle East. Pakistan should remain neutral.

 

[HAIDER]

If Pakistani people themselves ready to sacrifice the country for others interest then nothing else to say.

 

[Cyberian]

AQ Khan had also provided bomb and centrifuge designs to the Libyans and centrifuge designs to the NoKo's - Iran wasn't the only source of information against him and because of the Libyan and NoKo discoveries Pakistan was in fact cooperating with the IAEA about AQ Khan's other activities.

Did the Iranians disclose AQ Khan's centrifuge sale to the IAEA first or had Pakistan already flagged AQ Khan's nuclear cooperation with Iran as part of its efforts to come clean about the AQ Khan network? The Iranians may not have had a choice because the IAEA already knew most of the details.

First of all it wasn't Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan who was selling the nuke program to North Korea, Iran and Libya.

After Afghanistan fired dozens of Scud-B ballistics missiles on Pakistan, Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto visited North Korea in December 1993. Pakistan was struggling with its missile program and North Korea needed nuclear know how. A deal was struck in that regard.

Secondly, Iran requested nuclear weapons from Pakistan's Chief of the Army Staff in the early 1990s but it was rejected. The Army Chief told the Iranians that Pakistan can show them how to make one but cannot give them any as no one gave it to Pakistan.

Thirdly, Pakistan didn't want to be the only Muslim nation to be armed with nukes as it would be constantly under pressure internationally all the time. Both Libya and Iran were also under sanctions in the 1990s like Pakistan was and they both sought nukes, so Pakistan tried to help them.

However, when the Libyans were caught red handed, they buckled and came clean, while the Iranians were quick to hand over the Pakistani centrifuge designs to the US (I think as US returned them to Pakistan) in the hope that Pakistan will be attacked instead of Iran as part of the infamous "Axis of Evil" trio.

Libya got what it deserved for handing over its ballistic missiles to the US and Iran got the well deserved ten-year long debilitating sanctions for admitting its quest to seek nukes.

Therefore, Pakistan is fully just in keeping its distance from this back stabbing nation.

 

[Haroon Baloch]

Also we faced that just 2 years ago...after the revolution US and the west stopped its military supplies to Egypt as for Egypt diversified its military equipment sources and some of the imported equipment domestically manufactured...like some parts of the Egyptian armed vehicle Faahd.
BTW neither Pakistan nor Turkey can 100% self sufficient.


Bullshit again ....not surprised...you people still telling your kids Arel Sharoon story
about terrorists groups that are in your homeland for a decade they still have their pussies or sold them to the takferi groups as well.


Totally agree +
Air defense systems Egypt is better.
Missiles (cruise and ballistic) Pakistan is better.
As for Navi..within 4 years Egypt will has operationally
1 Fremme Frigate
4 Gowind corvettes
2 Mistrals
4 type209/1400 subs
K-52 naval
4 Ambassador MKIII missile boat
I don't know about future Pakistani naval programs...if you have any thing to add it will be pleasure.

Pakistan sign the deal of 5$ Billion of 8 more Yuan class subs 4 will be build in Pakistan and other 4 will be bult in china the same time to speedup procces and all will be deployed in fleet in 2020 + 4 more Zulifiqaar class multirole frigate and Pakistan is now building there own Missile Craft Name is PNS Dehsat..

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

So, if someone oppose to send Pak army to Arab land, mean he is supporter of Iranian and must be shia.............lolzzzzz....unbelievable ....these ayatullah resolve all their disputes with US and EU. Suadi increasing defence relation with your arch rival India. UAE prefer Indian over Pakistani....go visit UAE and if you in any specialized field go apply for job.....face the reality, our majority of people are toad in the well.


Any allies came to support us on Kashmir issue...................anyone, of came to help us when Pakistan was and is burning in the fire of terrorism....

We have a false flagger @waz

read his past posts also.

First of all it wasn't Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan who was selling the nuke program to North Korea, Iran and Libya.

After Afghanistan fired dozens of Scud-B ballistics missiles on Pakistan, Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto visited North Korea in December 1993. Pakistan was struggling with its missile program and North Korea needed nuclear know how. A deal was struck in that regard.

Secondly, Iran requested nuclear weapons from Pakistan's Chief of the Army Staff in the early 1990s but it was rejected. The Army Chief told the Iranians that Pakistan can show them how to make one but cannot give them any as no one gave it to Pakistan.

Thirdly, Pakistan didn't want to be the only Muslim nation to be armed with nukes as it would be constantly under pressure internationally all the time. Both Libya and Iran were also under sanctions in the 1990s like Pakistan was and they both sought nukes, so Pakistan tried to help them.

However, when the Libyans were caught red handed, they buckled and came clean, while the Iranians were quick to hand over the Pakistani centrifuge designs to the US (I think as US returned them to Pakistan) in the hope that Pakistan will be attacked instead of Iran as part of the infamous "Axis of Evil" trio.

Libya got what it deserved for handing over its ballistic missiles to the US and Iran got the well deserved ten-year long debilitating sanctions for admitting its quest to seek nukes.

Therefore, Pakistan is fully just in keeping its distance from this back stabbing nation.

Saudi Arabia funds our nuclear program.

 

[HAIDER]

We have a false flagger @waz

read his past posts also.


Saudi Arabia funds our nuclear program.

Can you care to define where I am wrong ? ....define also false flag..

We have a false flagger @waz

read his past posts also.


Saudi Arabia funds our nuclear program.

Stop this nonsense propaganda. It was built and finance in the time ZA Bhutto by China. Some parts been smuggled from US behind the curtain of Afghan war.

 

[saiyan0321]

Have the details of this coalition been released and by details I mean what form of requirements will have to be fulfilled for these nations to create a joint attack and will it have a NATO like clause forcing nations to go to war if one is attacked and if so who will marshal them as in NATO USA makes sure everybody participates. However in this coalition will Saudi Arabia be able to force these 34 nations to provide military, financial or intelligence aid in case they are mobilized...

I have advocated such united forces like NATO especially in ASIA but I doubt its effectiveness.. Looks like time will be a better judge of it.

 

[Hyperion]

You need to discount all the 200+ F16's. Why? Because they all lack BVR capability. Furthermore, you seriously can't match on ground training of Pakistan Army with that of Egyptian Army. They are poles apart. Pakistan Army is in a league of it's own -- from NLI, FF, Baluch to Punjab, you got to be kidding me.

*Egypt airforce is better than Pakistan and in near future will be better in all aspects

 

[Barmin]

The goons who have killed millions of Muslims in sectarian wars since their beginning in Saudia and have spent billions cash dollars for terrorism in all of Islamic countries can't be leader of anti terrorism coalition! Their hands is polluted with bloods of millions innocent Muslims who are killed just because of their believes. This idiot thread is joke of the century!

 

[Serpentine]

First of all it wasn't Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan who was selling the nuke program to North Korea, Iran and Libya.

After Afghanistan fired dozens of Scud-B ballistics missiles on Pakistan, Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto visited North Korea in December 1993. Pakistan was struggling with its missile program and North Korea needed nuclear know how. A deal was struck in that regard.

Secondly, Iran requested nuclear weapons from Pakistan's Chief of the Army Staff in the early 1990s but it was rejected. The Army Chief told the Iranians that Pakistan can show them how to make one but cannot give them any as no one gave it to Pakistan.

Thirdly, Pakistan didn't want to be the only Muslim nation to be armed with nukes as it would be constantly under pressure internationally all the time. Both Libya and Iran were also under sanctions in the 1990s like Pakistan was and they both sought nukes, so Pakistan tried to help them.

However, when the Libyans were caught red handed, they buckled and came clean, while the Iranians were quick to hand over the Pakistani centrifuge designs to the US (I think as US returned them to Pakistan) in the hope that Pakistan will be attacked instead of Iran as part of the infamous "Axis of Evil" trio.

Libya got what it deserved for handing over its ballistic missiles to the US and Iran got the well deserved ten-year long debilitating sanctions for admitting its quest to seek nukes.

Therefore, Pakistan is fully just in keeping its distance from this back stabbing nation.

So much nonsense and lies in one single post.

Iran has never asked any country including Pakistan for nukes, nor did Iran hand over anything to U.S, be it Pakistani centrifuge designs or anything else. It was never proved that Iran was after a weapon, let alone admitting it.

Iran took some 1st generation, used centrifuges from Pakistan to help develop a fully domestic nuclear program and also to have the option of making a weapon in case another mad man like Saddam Hussein tried to develop nukes and threaten us (he was actively pursuing nuclear weapons in 80s, but Iraq's weapon facilities were bombed by both Iran and Israel), but we never went for the weapons to begin with and Saddam was toppled in 2003.

Now, we have an indigenous nuclear program if any country tries to threaten us with nuclear weapons, the road to making a bomb is always open, but not necessary for now.

The centrifuges that Iran received from Pakistan were second handed and were used to enrich uranium beyond 90% and that's why in 2003 IAEA got suspicious since the trace of highly enriched uranium were found in the centrifuges and the 12 year long nuclear accusations and unjustified sanctions started.

Whatever you have been fed with, I advise throwing it away, because you got the whole thing wrong, either intentionally or out of naivety.

 

[The SiLent crY]

Money rules .

 

[Daneshmand]

First of all it wasn't Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan who was selling the nuke program to North Korea, Iran and Libya.

After Afghanistan fired dozens of Scud-B ballistics missiles on Pakistan, Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto visited North Korea in December 1993. Pakistan was struggling with its missile program and North Korea needed nuclear know how. A deal was struck in that regard.

Secondly, Iran requested nuclear weapons from Pakistan's Chief of the Army Staff in the early 1990s but it was rejected. The Army Chief told the Iranians that Pakistan can show them how to make one but cannot give them any as no one gave it to Pakistan.

Thirdly, Pakistan didn't want to be the only Muslim nation to be armed with nukes as it would be constantly under pressure internationally all the time. Both Libya and Iran were also under sanctions in the 1990s like Pakistan was and they both sought nukes, so Pakistan tried to help them.

However, when the Libyans were caught red handed, they buckled and came clean, while the Iranians were quick to hand over the Pakistani centrifuge designs to the US (I think as US returned them to Pakistan) in the hope that Pakistan will be attacked instead of Iran as part of the infamous "Axis of Evil" trio.

Libya got what it deserved for handing over its ballistic missiles to the US and Iran got the well deserved ten-year long debilitating sanctions for admitting its quest to seek nukes.

Therefore, Pakistan is fully just in keeping its distance from this back stabbing nation.

Cut the crap and stop lying.

Libya gave all the centrifuges to US in crates written made in Pakistan on them and they are now being stored in US: Libya Paid $100 Million for Nuclear Technology; U.S. Displays Libyan Nuclear Weapons Parts | Global Security Newswire | NTI

Iran had no choice in the matter since others including Pakistan itself admitted to existence of these dealings. North Koreans were even inviting American nuclear scientists to see it all for themselves: North Korea has built sophisticated uranium enrichment facility, US scientist says - Telegraph

Iran did not cooperate with IAEA more than it was obliged to under international law. No screw let alone a centrifuge from Iran was ever shipped out to anyone from Iran.

Money rules .

This thing is just for public consumption. There is no absolutely no chance for a Turkish or Pakistani General taking orders from a 30 year old prince defense minister of Saudi Arabia. Because it would be insulting to them and to their countries.

This alliance under the the command of Saudi Arabia, headquartered in Riyadh is just a circus and the participants are just after milking whatever money they can from Saudi Arabia. Its purpose is to "scare" Iran. Well, guess what. Iran does not even care. As for milking Saudis, I say go for it. If Americans can milk Saudis, why shouldn't others.