sar-e-aam affect on me

[Myth_buster_1]

So lately i watched a few sar-e-aam episodes and i am feeling really dejected and angry. I am fast losing faith in my countrymen and my hopes of a progressive and prosperous Pakistan are being dashed. I seriously can't believe that people can be so greedy and the blatant lies that come out of peoples mouth is frustrating to say the least.

I get specially angry when people with big beards and recite Allah and his messenger's name while lying shamelessly. These are the people that are supposed to be the trustworthy ones but just for some petty extra cash people are willing feed their fellow humans haram and filthy food. Are willing to defraud vulnerable people or take advantage of their position of power to blackmail and ruin innocent people's lives. To top it up the people whos job is to prevent this from happening are actually found supporting it.

This is Islamic republic of Pakistan but the people are as far away from Islam as pork is from being halal. How can anyone fix this country?

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that pretty much sums up 90% of muslims in entire world. 10% are true muslims who converted after understanding islam.

 

[Imad.Khan]

that pretty much sums up 90% of muslims in entire world. 10% are true muslims who converted after understanding islam.

So as per you 1.18 Billion out of 1.3Billion muslims are cheats/frauds/liars/hypocrites?

 

[Myth_buster_1]

So as per you 1.18 Billion out of 1.3Billion muslims are cheats/frauds/liars/hypocrites?

 

[Imad.Khan]

After watching the show it does feel like that 90% of the people are all fraud/cheats/liar/hypocrites.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

So as per you 1.18 Billion out of 1.3Billion muslims are cheats/frauds/liars/hypocrites?

After watching the show it does feel like that 90% of the people are all fraud/cheats/liar/hypocrites.

im just upset.

 

[Mav3rick]

Well you should watch some positive content as well. If you keep watching only one kind of content, you brain will get programmed the way you have described. But good and bad, devil and angels all exist in the society. If you watch documentary about Abdus Sattar Edhi, Imran Khan, Dr AQ Khan and simple good hearted Pakistanis... your faith in humanity and Pakistan will be restored.. though I'm not discounting the crimes of these fake peers and evil mullahs but just saying that equal rather more goodness exists in the society.. so focus on positivity bro

You were going great and then you had to flush it all down the sink

No one can. IK is under attack because he is trying to fix some part of the theft, and trying to catch the thieves who had been living like Kings without any visible and declared sources of income.
The malice is wide spread and not limited to the Politicians.
The evidence is started to emerge. The traders, the property dealers, the bankers, the industrialists, the financial market traders, etc. etc. all are deeply involved in corruption and corrupt practices.

All the thieves are colluding lead by FazalurRehman.
No Hope, absolutely no hope.
The worst are the judges, look at Justice Faiz Isa, he has adopted same tactic of Nawaz Butt, wouldn't show the receipts, but spew all kind of hatred and BS.
Beyond repairs, Pakistan.

IK has been keeping Billionaires as financiers for the past 20 years or so and it is these Billionaires who have assisted him in getting here. They financed his household, his lifestyle, his expenditures (personal and business), his dharnas and jalsas, his party formation, PTI expenditure; basically everything that is IK today! From Zulfi Bukhari (who travels everywhere in the world on official PM trips) to Jehangir Tareen (whose son was awarded a ticket when Jehangir Tareen was disqualified) to Aneel Musarrat and many others. How can you guys genuinely believe that IK is NOT corrupt, both financially and morally?

He fathers an illegitimate child and abandons her (she is being raised by Jemima currently), he gets a women divorced to marry her because she saw something in her dream, goodness guys!!! His sons are studying in England but he wants Pakistanis to educate their children in Pakistan, he himself created offshore companies, evaded taxes and kept his properties outside of Pakistan but he wants Pakistanis to bring their money back to Pakistan, IK discouraged amnesty scheme under PML calling it an opportunity for the criminal to whiten their black money and warned the benefactors of cases against each of them but then gave an exact same amnesty scheme. He has no idea about Islam and speaks of Madina ki riyasat. He promised to eliminate nepotism and favouritsm but has given positions to all his friends and nonsense folk such as Ashiq Awan, Fawad Ch., Faisal Vavda and so on. He would NOT appoint Buzdar a member of the board of Shoukat Khanam hospital but made him the CM of the largest province of the country!

I can literally go on and on and on but can't you guess see all of this? PML and PPP were extremely corrupt where as PPP takes the crown on incompetence as well but is PTI really any better? Do we have to sing praises of this fake messiah IK all the time???

 

[Mentee]

This show is turning into a miserable joke. All he "exposes" is some rag tag plebes and low level govt employees like clerks and cops. Never seen him setting some ac DC up. Like in the real world no Sho can extort protection money from pimps and drug suppliers without the express consent of the dpo or dig in charge of the district. Same is the case with patwaris and other revenue officials supervised by the DC and commissioner.

 

[crankthatskunk]

You were going great and then you had to flush it all down the sink



IK has been keeping Billionaires as financiers for the past 20 years or so and it is these Billionaires who have assisted him in getting here. They financed his household, his lifestyle, his expenditures (personal and business), his dharnas and jalsas, his party formation, PTI expenditure; basically everything that is IK today! From Zulfi Bukhari (who travels everywhere in the world on official PM trips) to Jehangir Tareen (whose son was awarded a ticket when Jehangir Tareen was disqualified) to Aneel Musarrat and many others. How can you guys genuinely believe that IK is NOT corrupt, both financially and morally?

He fathers an illegitimate child and abandons her (she is being raised by Jemima currently), he gets a women divorced to marry her because she saw something in her dream, goodness guys!!! His sons are studying in England but he wants Pakistanis to educate their children in Pakistan, he himself created offshore companies, evaded taxes and kept his properties outside of Pakistan but he wants Pakistanis to bring their money back to Pakistan, IK discouraged amnesty scheme under PML calling it an opportunity for the criminal to whiten their black money and warned the benefactors of cases against each of them but then gave an exact same amnesty scheme. He has no idea about Islam and speaks of Madina ki riyasat. He promised to eliminate nepotism and favouritsm but has given positions to all his friends and nonsense folk such as Ashiq Awan, Fawad Ch., Faisal Vavda and so on. He would NOT appoint Buzdar a member of the board of Shoukat Khanam hospital but made him the CM of the largest province of the country!

I can literally go on and on and on but can't you guess see all of this? PML and PPP were extremely corrupt where as PPP takes the crown on incompetence as well but is PTI really any better? Do we have to sing praises of this fake messiah IK all the time???

This is the biggest TOSH I have read in my life.
His Sons study in Britain because they are British due their mum. She had the custody of the kids. They studied on their expense. Unlike children of Maryam Nawaz, who had no sources of income but Junaid had studied in the UK. Father was on R 1500 Wazifa and mother never had any income or properties even in Pakistan (in her own words).
Why don't you find IK properties outside Pakistan!! We can find properties of PMLN and PPP goons all over the world.
I am sure when Imran was fathering an illegitimate child, you were the fly on the wall with a camera in your hands. The proofs you are going to release petty soon.
As for funding, this is the practice all over the world, the wealthy supporters finance the political parties. In the USA having political donations is a normal practice, so is in most European countries.
As for evidence of taxes and properties outside and inside Pakistan, no less than SCP has cleared him.

I think you should change the medicine you are on, it is not having good effect on you.

 

[pak-marine]

Govts should implement tough Carrot & danda policy - no two ways about it , anyone fcking around with the laws shove a bambo make him / her / them an example and has to be across the board and ruthless , general or begger no one shall be spared !

until that day sar e aam wil keep getting trps

 

[Vikki]

Problem is that we have only been told since our childhood that pork, wine, dog/rat/cat/donkey meat etc are haraam. Just a thought of having pork or dog meat on our dining table makes us puke.

Our nation hasn't been fed with hate of haraam money, adulteration, interest earning etc. Time will come in shaa Allah when our new generations will be taught about these things in our homes just like how we have been taught about pork etc..

Beard/ no beard is a non-issue. I have seen people with/ without beards indulging in Haraam acts and earning haraam money. It's just that beard is a Sunnah, so I avoid talking about it, otherwise we shouldn't trust anyone.

By the way, Sar e Aam is a very good TV show, but there are many more good people out there as well. Think about yourself, and the majority of people on this forum. I think you and majority of Pakistanis on this forum are very positive, think logically, and work really hard. Similarly, you will find a lot of good people on streets, in offices etc. Think in this way, there is a guy who supplies rat meat to a few eateries in Karachi... but there are 1000 times more number of restaurants/ places which only use halaal meat. Even if they get a chance, they will simply refuse to go haraam way. But that one guy is highlighted and because of him, good people who are much more in number get overshadowed.

Wrong analogy...we hindus havent been taught dog, pork or cat as haram..but we puke at the thought of eating them too..
Its just eating habits plus dog and pig are considered filthy

 

[American Pakistani]

So lately i watched a few sar-e-aam episodes and i am feeling really dejected and angry. I am fast losing faith in my countrymen and my hopes of a progressive and prosperous Pakistan are being dashed. I seriously can't believe that people can be so greedy and the blatant lies that come out of peoples mouth is frustrating to say the least.

I get specially angry when people with big beards and recite Allah and his messenger's name while lying shamelessly. These are the people that are supposed to be the trustworthy ones but just for some petty extra cash people are willing feed their fellow humans haram and filthy food. Are willing to defraud vulnerable people or take advantage of their position of power to blackmail and ruin innocent people's lives. To top it up the people whos job is to prevent this from happening are actually found supporting it.

This is Islamic republic of Pakistan but the people are as far away from Islam as pork is from being halal. How can anyone fix this country?

@Dubious @PakSword @Imran Khan @Syed1. @war&peace @Zibago @Zarvan @IceCold @Azadkashmir @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @The Accountant @Shane @Moonlight @Horus @waz @Kabira @DESERT FIGHTER @Khafee @Thorough Pro @Mangus Ortus Novem @Starlord @Clutch

If beard was symbol of trustworthiness then modhi wouldn't be a fascist terrorist.

Looks are deceiving. The great people who served Pakistan were MA Jinnah, Allama M Iqbal, Aga Khan, Liaqat Ali Khan, etc...none had a beard.

 

[Mav3rick]

This is the biggest TOSH I have read in my life.
His Sons study in Britain because they are British due their mum. She had the custody of the kids. They studied on their expense. Unlike children of Maryam Nawaz, who had no sources of income but Junaid had studied in the UK. Father was on R 1500 Wazifa and mother never had any income or properties even in Pakistan (in her own words).
Why don't you find IK properties outside Pakistan!! We can find properties of PMLN and PPP goons all over the world.
I am sure when Imran was fathering an illegitimate child, you were the fly on the wall with a camera in your hands. The proofs you are going to release petty soon.
As for funding, this is the practice all over the world, the wealthy supporters finance the political parties. In the USA having political donations is a normal practice, so is in most European countries.
As for evidence of taxes and properties outside and inside Pakistan, no less than SCP has cleared him.

I think you should change the medicine you are on, it is not having good effect on you.

I fail to understand why you PTI supporters take any form of criticism or fact as a personal insult. Just because one does not conform to your point of view or concludes his opinion from facts acquired from non-PTI sources he has to be on medicine? I mean is this really the best you mind can reason?

Who the hell cares where NS's children went to school? I care where my child goes and that is a matter of grave concern for me, both the quality of education and the rising fee. If you can find properties of PPP and PML all over the world what is holding you from claiming them in the name of Government of Pakistan and transferring liquidated assets back to Pakistan?

IK is a convict in the matter of Sita White case, no further evidence is required. In regards to funding, the problem is not the funding itself but the rewarding of that funding to all the financiers in violations of ethics and morals. Ann then we have the endless cycle of U-Turns (Lies and Deceit basically). This is the reason I neither trust him nor have any faith in his intentions or abilities.

 

[crankthatskunk]

I fail to understand why you PTI supporters take any form of criticism or fact as a personal insult. Just because one does not conform to your point of view or concludes his opinion from facts acquired from non-PTI sources he has to be on medicine? I mean is this really the best you mind can reason?

Who the hell cares where NS's children went to school? I care where my child goes and that is a matter of grave concern for me, both the quality of education and the rising fee. If you can find properties of PPP and PML all over the world what is holding you from claiming them in the name of Government of Pakistan and transferring liquidated assets back to Pakistan?

IK is a convict in the matter of Sita White case, no further evidence is required. In regards to funding, the problem is not the funding itself but the rewarding of that funding to all the financiers in violations of ethics and morals. Ann then we have the endless cycle of U-Turns (Lies and Deceit basically). This is the reason I neither trust him nor have any faith in his intentions or abilities.

First of all who told you that I am from PTI!! You see you are the one who is not only making assumption but are highly personal in your comments.

Convicted in Sita White case!! Really!! I think you have to grow up dude, you are using completely wrong legal terms to make your point. IK is not convicted. The verdict in a civil case of parental responsibility was given against him by a LA family court's because he failed to appear in the court.

I think, you have to learn a little bit about the world on financing. You look very ill informed it seems.
And to be honest, with intellect like yours it is very difficult and pointless to continue the discussion

 

[Mav3rick]

First of all who told you that I am from PTI!! You see you are the one who is not only making assumption but are highly personal in your comments.

Whoever is supporting this government at the cost of Pakistan and Pakistanis is supporting PTI by extension, with their cons and with their pros (if they have any).

Convicted in Sita White case!! Really!! I think you have to grow up dude, you are using completely wrong legal terms to make your point. IK is not convicted. The verdict in a civil case of parental responsibility was given against him by a LA family court's because he failed to appear in the court.

Please look up the term 'convict' in a dictionary, or just google it, you don't even have to accept your mistake.

I think, you have to learn a little bit about the world on financing. You look very ill informed it seems.
And to be honest, with intellect like yours it is very difficult and pointless to continue the discussion

Let's stop playing and we both answer a simple question: Was the life of an average Pakistani (or all Pakistani's in general) better off in 2017 or is it better today?

 

[crankthatskunk]

Whoever is supporting this government at the cost of Pakistan and Pakistanis is supporting PTI by extension, with their cons and with their pros (if they have any).
Please look up the term 'convict' in a dictionary, or just google it, you don't even have to accept your mistake.

conviction
/kənˈvɪkʃ(ə)n/
noun

1. 1.
   a formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence.
   "she had a previous conviction for a similar offence"
   
   

   Let's stop playing and we both answer a simple question: Was the life of an average Pakistani (or all Pakistani's in general) better off in 2017 or is it better today?

Definitely. Even though people may not feel it because the traders have raised the prices due to weakening of the rupees. Even for the domestic produce, which is dishonesty on their part. They also want to see the end of PTI government because it is demanding that they register their businesses and pay Income Tax and sales taxes too, which they collect from the customer, but don't pay it back to the Government.

The rupees have to float freely by PTI because of the mess created by Ishaq Dar by keeping the rupee floating well above its weight by artificially boosting the reserves through very expensive borrowing of Dollars.

The trade deficit and current account deficit were rocketing, so were imports.
PTI has got all of them down and strengthening the economy through correct measure.

Do you qualify to speak on the Economy!! I am.
Please resist, you seems not to know even the basics of the international norms.
Do you understand that how many times IK had been in the USA after passing of the verdict by the LA family court!!
If he was convicted as you say, FBI would have arrested him long time ago.