Sanctioned Russia and Iran sign 5-yr deal to ease Western pressure

[senheiser]

Agreed . They made zobe ahan , rail system and bushehr for iran
I don't say we should trust russia .what I'm sayin is that we should be fair .
Everyone acta on their interest so does russia .
And so does iran . Take ukraine issue for example


Well I don't
Russia can be far more reliable for todays iran
Although as u can aee iranians are not happy with russia too

we were not reliable because we were totally integrated into western system much more than china but this will now change

If Iran isn't carefull they could end up like Turkmenistan,meaning that profiting from sanctions Russia will buy their oil on the cheap while selling it afterwards at real market prices.Basically,they'd be making a boat of money from Iranian oil just by playing intermediary.

Russia doesn't want Iran on the free oil/gas market because it will be tough competition for them.

you confuse apples and oranges. We dont want turkmenistan because of their gas, they dont have any oil. Oil is freely shipped via sea, iran has the same situation like all the other gulf states.

 

[anHuman]

If Iran isn't carefull they could end up like Turkmenistan,meaning that profiting from sanctions Russia will buy their oil on the cheap while selling it afterwards at real market prices.Basically,they'd be making a boat of money from Iranian oil just by playing intermediary.

Russia doesn't want Iran on the free oil/gas market because it will be tough competition for them.

there is some untold facts here , probably in 2020 we have to import oil from foreign country ....

 

[kollang]

That's not the right time.the sanctions are about to end and we may find more reliable economic partners.

 

[flamer84]

there is some untold facts here , probably in 2020 we have to import oil from foreign country ....

Dude,it's just a friendly advice...do not trust Russia.

We gave you that friendly advice before and we were right.

It is known that, after the fall of the Shah’s regime in Iran, the Romanian leadership quickly sent there a Moslem delegation from the SRR which, in their meeting with Khomeni, also expressed their approval with regard to the expulsion of American specialists from the country. Meanwhile, the delegation tried to warn Khomeni not to invite specialists of the USSR into Iran, underscoring, at the same time, that the interests of the great powers are all encompassing and do not coincide with the interests of the small and medium-sized countries ” (Document 4)[17]

 

[anHuman]

Dude,it's just a friendly advice...do not trust Russia.
We gave you that friendly advice before and we were right.

thanks about your advice but we are already aware of Russian nature ....

 

[rmi5]

The most important thing in relations between Russia and Iran - to create a gas OPEC. This will change the world and will allow Russia and Iran to influence on world policy.

Dude, what's the point of a gas OPEC? unlike gas, oil can be shipped from everywhere to every country in the world, hence OPEC can have meanings. But, for gas, it cannot be transferred easily like oil and needs pipelines from certain suppliers to certain consumers.
In reality, what Russians want is to make Iran away from their current and future customers like EU, and China.

thanks about your advice but we are already aware of Russian nature ....

Your nature is not better than Russians. Russians are smart and only seek for their interests, and in contrast to your BS expectations, they don't consider you as friends or allies, just consider you as a card in their games. Then, you should not expect them to do much for Iran except for selling some of their outdated stuff with a high price.
@S00R3NA In contrast to your beliefs, Russia does not consider Israel as her own enemy, and the main importance of Syria for Russia is their naval base in Syria, and nothing more.
If you consider Belarus, you would see that Russia support some countries as well, but, only if consider them as her serious allies.

 

[vostok]

Dude, what's the point of a gas OPEC? unlike gas, oil can be shipped from everywhere to every country in the world, hence OPEC can have meanings. But, for gas, it cannot be transferred easily like oil and needs pipelines from certain suppliers to certain consumers.
In reality, what Russians want is to make Iran away from their current and future customers like EU, and China.

Gas OPEC needed to dictate the price and to resist attempts to lower the price. Over time, it will be possible to introduce some kind of unified energy-currency of the United Nations or SCO, which will be an alternative to the dollar. And for that you need to have as much leverages as possible in the hands of Eurasian countries, rather than Atlantic.

 

[anHuman]

Dude, what's the point of a gas OPEC? unlike gas, oil can be shipped from everywhere to every country in the world, hence OPEC can have meanings. But, for gas, it cannot be transferred easily like oil and needs pipelines from certain suppliers to certain consumers.
In reality, what Russians want is to make Iran away from their current and future customers like EU, and China.



Your nature is not better than Russians. Russians are smart and only seek for their interests, and in contrast to your BS expectations, they don't consider you as friends or allies, just consider you as a card in their games. Then, you should not expect them to do much for Iran except for selling some of their outdated stuff with a high price.
@S00R3NA In contrast to your beliefs, Russia does not consider Israel as her own enemy, and the main importance of Syria for Russia is their naval base in Syria, and nothing more.
If you consider Belarus, you would see that Russia support some countries as well, but, only if consider them as her serious allies.

we never ask Pan-Turk to give comment about our forigen policies ....

 

[Hasbara Buster]

good. Now Russia should provide the S-300 . If possible S-400. Even better if nuclear weapons are secretly sold to Iran. Iran must be strengthened as a counterweight to Saudis,Israelis .Nuclear weapons can do that with ease.

I totally agree, it's absolutely amazing how naive Russia has been all these years trusting the West. China is next by the way, it's just a matter of time really.

To be honest , Yes .

Americans gave their best equipments to Iran in 70's

79 F14's and hundreds of F4 and F5 plus dozens of C130 .

They were going to build F16 factory in Esfehan + selling Iran hundreds of F16s .

leave building nuclear reactors aside .


Let me ask you a question , How many times did Russia betray Iran and the deals ?

Shafaq project

Azerakhsh project

Bushehr reactor

S-300

Broken Mig-29s and no support

and so on

Russia never imposed severe sanctions on Iran, unlike America. The Shah was an American puppet, that is why America was "reliable" during that whole period. America is only "reliable" for countries such as Saudi Arabia, Israel, UK, Turkey etc.. that sort of rogue regimes who are merely Western puppets.

I do agree that Russia as well as China have been quite hypocritical and dishonest when dealing with Iran. They thought they would please their Western partners (masters ?), but they are learning the hard way now.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Dude,it's just a friendly advice...do not trust Russia.

We gave you that friendly advice before and we were right.

Yes, trust the West and Israel instead. If you want to be threatened with nuclear annihilation and sanctioned to death that is. I agree with you flamer, hats off to you buddy !!!

 

[IR1907]

As a Iranian i say that America is much more reliable to Iran, for the reasons posted in page 1 by Iranian members.

Slowly we are getting out of this sanctions (dont care anymore how we got there in the first place) it will take time but we will achieve it. Once the sanctions are gone we will trade in everything and with everyone.

But for weapons i think we should sign heavy contracts with Lockheed martins and other American companies to get latest weapons and tech.

There are only good times ahead for Iran, but it will take time.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

we were not reliable because we were totally integrated into western system much more than china but this will now change.

Same with Turkey. Heck, we even allowed NATO missiles in Southern Turkey to protect Israel, excuse me I have to vomit now.

 

[anHuman]

I totally agree, it's absolutely amazing how naive Russia has been all these years trusting the West. China is next by the way, it's just a matter of time really.

Russia never imposed severe sanctions on Iran, unlike America. The Shah was an American puppet, that is why America was "reliable" during that whole period. America is only "reliable" for countries such as Saudi Arabia, Israel, UK, Turkey etc.. that sort of rogue regimes who are merely Western puppets.

I do agree that Russia as well as China have been quite hypocritical and dishonest when dealing with Iran. They thought they would please their Western partners (masters ?), but they are learning the hard way now.

this is a fact that our blind pro western country men always ignore it ...

As a Iranian i say that America is much more reliable to Iran, for the reasons posted in page 1 by Iranian members.

Slowly we are getting out of this sanctions (dont care anymore how we got there in the first place) it will take time but we will achieve it. Once the sanctions are gone we will trade in everything and with everyone.

But for weapons i think we should sign heavy contracts with Lockheed martins and other American companies to get latest weapons and tech.

There are only good times ahead for Iran, but it will take time.

عزیز دلم ، می شه یک پستی ندی که مسخره ت کنند !؟
از لاکهید مارتین بری جنگنده بخری ... !!؟
احتمالا بی 2 رو هم نمی خوای بخری !؟

 

[IR1907]

this is a fact that our blind pro western country men always ignore it ...




عزیز دلم ، می شه یک پستی ندی که مسخره ت کنند !؟
از لاکهید مارتین بری جنگنده بخری ... !!؟
احتمالا بی 2 رو هم نمی خوای بخری !؟

B2 ke bombere. F35 martins jangande khoobiye, be darde Iran mikhore.

 

[anHuman]

B2 ke bombere. F35 martins jangande khoobiye, be darde Iran mikhore.

forgive me ... :facepalm