Saffron terrorism involved in many blasts: Chidambaram

[diva]

Both the accusations in both the cases were proven wrong by your own people.


2. Forced conversion to Christianity in India????????

Please care to prove that. There is NO forced conversion rather low cast Hindus find solace and some dignity as well as monetary benefits in converting to Christianity which is NOT liked by Majority ruling Hindu casts. So here we see many excuses for killing these convert Christians

Christians were made scape goats and killed by these hardliner Hindu groups and Muslims were also burnt alive.

Thats a big blot and shame on the name of India

Converting people by luring them with money is illegal....... Dont know about you we dont belive in opening shops to sell Jesus or Allah or Krishna.

 

[Gucci]

Both the accusations in both the cases were proven wrong by your own people.


2. Forced conversion to Christianity in India????????

Please care to prove that. There is NO forced conversion rather low cast Hindus find solace and some dignity as well as monetary benefits in converting to Christianity which is NOT liked by Majority ruling Hindu casts. So here we see many excuses for killing these convert Christians

Christians were made scape goats and killed by these hardliner Hindu groups and Muslims were also burnt alive.

Thats a big blot and shame on the name of India

we live in india.near the border areas of the punjab this is done.there r many christian missionaries who do this.who knows rest of india.but watever it is,this is done,i read many times in papers.

Thats a big blot and shame on the name of India

we dont need to feel shame,we feel proud with the growing status.i think u have enough reason to feel same.just look at what world see n feel.

 

[gubbi]

IMHO, the quote about "saffron terrorism" by PC was probably a political potshot at the rightwing "hindutva" parties, considering some recent events in Mumbai sponsored by MNS. Media as usual picked or rather cherrypicked the phrase for its "shock" effect. Call it TRP phenomena.

That being said, the rightwing militant ideology is a real cause for concern. Their uncompromising stand on religious intolerance is sickening and must be nipped in the bud lest it propagates into some uncontrolled Frankenstein monster. We should learn our lessons from events in our vicinity. However, spare for a few untoward incidents, which cannot be condoned in anyway, these parties are mostly in it for votebank politics! All noise, no balls for action. The much feared rightwing take over of India post BJP win in 1998/99 fizzled out and BJP turned to be as centrist in power as any other Indian political party. Surprisingly, Vajpayee and Mushraff had excellent chemistry considering Mush's responsibility for Kargil!!

But yes, parties or rather rowdies like MNS, SS, BD, VHP etc should be disbanded and made to join more mainstream political parties or be sent to clean up their respective cities with broomsticks and blackened faces.

 

[Peshwa]

Not me. I posted the news as it is with both headlines as reported by your paper.


BTW do you deny saffron terrorism ??????

First make a stand.....Damn fickle scribe....

Is the Indian media Orange and unreliable....then this report is worth squat

OR

That there is Saffron Terrorism....

Once you make up your mind.....
Then maybe we can provide our POV.....

Hypocrisy is NOT a fashion statement!!!

 

[desiman]

Mode: Denial

Happens initially.

look who is talking about denial lol

 

[Spring Onion]

Converting people by luring them with money is illegal....... Dont know about you we dont belive in opening shops to sell Jesus or Allah or Krishna.

we live in india.near the border areas of the punjab this is done.there r many christian missionaries who do this.who knows rest of india.but watever it is,this is done,i read many times in papers.
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That is personal choice of low cast Hindus to convert to Christianity and accept a better life in form. There is nothing illegal. If anyone is converting to Christianity from Hinduism and also accepting money out of free will and not forced to take at GUN point then its their human right and bhartis cannot make excuses to justify their killings.


This is NO forced Conversion.

But yes there are incidents of forced conversion of these converted Christians back to Hinduism by saffron people.

That could be called forced re-conversion.

as far as your selling remarks morons from all sides are in business of selling these in form of morties and some in form of names and some in form of cross

You can see these shops about your Krishna in front of every mandir

 

[desiman]

Terrorism is terrorism, plain and simple, saffron or green, these individuals should all be punished in the same way. Congress lack of action in this term is leading to all these organization's getting stronger, this government is by far the weakest India has had for some time now. They have been unable to control anything, but cant blame them when we have a quietest Prime Minister and a wimp of a home minister. Can we borrow Musharraf for sometime ? lol

 

[HAIDER]

Christians Burnt Alive in India; A Crucifixion Parade

Swami Laxmananda Saraswat was a senior leader in the VHP, a movement organized in 1964 to organize and preserve the Hindu world from Communism, Islam and Christianity. In 1992 they demolished the Babri Mosque. Muslim mobs rioted and over 900 people were killed across the country. In 2002 there were more riots and some 2000 were killed in what came to be called the Gujarat violence. Mobs attacked Christians in December 2007, burning shops and churches forcing 700 Indian Christians to flee.

On August 23, the Swami and four associates were found murdered in their monastery. The police suspected the Communists Maoists who later took responsibility for the murder.

In a horrifying display of week-long violence in Orissa, believing the Christians were to blame mobs went on a horrifying rampage of murder and arson, a "religious cleansing" as it were.

26 people killed in week-long violence in Orissa although the real death toll may be as close to 100 as more butchered bodies are found. Some 4000 Christian homes, churches and convents were burned by Hindu fanatics. One twenty-year old Christian girl Rajini escaped from the flames only to be tied up and thrown back in the fire.
Legacy Matters: Christians Burnt Alive in India; A Crucifixion Parade

Link has some violent images. Check on your own risk.

 

[gubbi]

You can see these shops about your Krishna in front of every mandir

Lol. Message lost in translation or is it the case of incorrect English comprehension. You took a literal interpretation of Diva's quote, when it should have been a figurative interpretation! Go figure.

And according to Indian laws, religious conversions based on monetary gains or forced are illegal. Period. Lolz about your comment about low caste Hindus. As if giving them money and converting them will help alleviate their condition from their apparently poverty stricken present state.

 

[Spring Onion]

First make a stand.....Damn fickle scribe....

Is the Indian media Orange and unreliable....then this report is worth squat

OR

That there is Saffron Terrorism....

Once you make up your mind.....
Then maybe we can provide our POV.....

Hypocrisy is NOT a fashion statement!!!

You should first learn the difference between an official statement as News and a concocted write up.


There are many kinds of reports

1. On spot news: That is reporting events as these happen like blast, accident, crash etc.

2. Any official statement like what Chidambaram said.


Now mostly whether Orange or otherwise any media reports these two kinds as it is. So we take it on face value unless denied by the official who's statement is published.



3. If you want proof of Indian being Orange media than let me tell you TOI has copied my two reports in these few days and twisted the reports by adding own version in the first report TOI was sensible enough to mention the source but in the second they have decided to carry on the theft by adding some Indian masala.


Now cheers. If you do not agree with what your Minister has said you can differ and comment otherwise.

And forget about it if i believed in this statement or not. It doesnt affect us at all.

 

[diva]

That is personal choice of low cast Hindus to convert to Christianity and accept a better life in form. There is nothing illegal. If anyone is converting to Christianity from Hinduism and also accepting money out of free will and not forced to take at GUN point then its their human right and bhartis cannot make excuses to justify their killings.

Actually that is not the reality they are being lured with the money.

This is NO forced Conversion.

But yes there are incidents of forced conversion of these converted Christians back to Hinduism by saffron people.

That could be called forced re-conversion.

Links please

as far as your selling remarks morons from all sides are in business of selling these in form of morties and some in form of names and some in form of cross

You can see these shops about your Krishna in front of every mandir

Hope you know the difference between selling a idol and salesman ship of god.

 

[Peshwa]

Terrorism is terrorism, plain and simple, saffron or green, these individuals should all be punished in the same way. Congress lack of action in this term is leading to all these organization's getting stronger, this government is by far the weakest India has had for some time now. They have been unable to control anything, but cant blame them when we have a quietest Prime Minister and a wimp of a home minister. Can we borrow Musharraf for sometime ? lol

Patel right after partition had proposed that communalism and "anarchy" in India will always prevail if we dont have at least one period of army rule in India......I feel like we should have ruled with an iron hand in and around the birth of our nation to make sure that the current brokers of power....aka Congress and BJP dont solidify their position to a point of no return........

Anyways my stand on this topic remains the same....

A terrorist.....Hari or Hashim....should be dealt with equal ferocity....

But it seems that when it comes to Congress and BJP....each take stands based on nothing but appeasement of communities......

In the end....the victims of terror suffer....

 

[Spring Onion]

Terrorism is terrorism, plain and simple, saffron or green, these individuals should all be punished in the same way. Congress lack of action in this term is leading to all these organization's getting stronger, this government is by far the weakest India has had for some time now. They have been unable to control anything, but cant blame them when we have a quietest Prime Minister and a wimp of a home minister. Can we borrow Musharraf for sometime ? lol

Sugar coated denial i must say

You are clubbing Muslims with saffron for proper action by Congress. No one can prosecute hardliner hindu groups for their terrorism simple as that because it will lead to greater massacre of non-Hindus

 

[Spring Onion]

Actually that is not the reality they are being lured with the money.

Lured?? They are grown ups. If they are willing to convert from their thousands of years' old hinduism to Christianity then it means something is wrong with their old faith and they see a better life by adopting Christianity.


Its not luring but its discrimination which is playing big part in their conversion from hinduism

Hope you know the difference between selling a idol and salesman ship of god.

I do but atleast in my faith we dont do that. Cant say about missionaries

 

[Jackdaws]

As far as the Christian missionaries are concerned, they go to some random place like Jhabua in MP; find some tribal with a name like Hajboutur, add a John against him name - give him some money and use him to build a church there to convert some more. A very unchristian way to attract converts to Christianity.