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A few weeks before the tsunami struck Fukushima’s uranium reactors and shattered public faith in nuclear power, China revealed that it was launching a rival technology to build a safer, cleaner, and ultimately cheaper network of reactors based on thorium.

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This passed unnoticed –except by a small of band of thorium enthusiasts – but it may mark the passage of strategic leadership in energy policy from an inert and status-quo West to a rising technological power willing to break the mould.
If China’s dash for thorium power succeeds, it will vastly alter the global energy landscape and may avert a calamitous conflict over resources as Asia’s industrial revolutions clash head-on with the West’s entrenched consumption.
China’s Academy of Sciences said it had chosen a “thorium-based molten salt reactor system”. The liquid fuel idea was pioneered by US physicists at Oak Ridge National Lab in the 1960s, but the US has long since dropped the ball. Further evidence of Barack `Obama’s “Sputnik moment”, you could say.
Chinese scientists claim that hazardous waste will be a thousand times less than with uranium. The system is inherently less prone to disaster.
“The reactor has an amazing safety feature,” said Kirk Sorensen, a former NASA engineer at Teledyne Brown and a thorium expert.


“If it begins to overheat, a little plug melts and the salts drain into a pan. There is no need for computers, or the sort of electrical pumps that were crippled by the tsunami. The reactor saves itself,” he said.
“They operate at atmospheric pressure so you don’t have the sort of hydrogen explosions we’ve seen in Japan. One of these reactors would have come through the tsunami just fine. There would have been no radiation release.”
Thorium is a silvery metal named after the Norse god of thunder. The metal has its own “issues” but no thorium reactor could easily spin out of control in the manner of Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, or now Fukushima.
Professor Robert Cywinksi from Huddersfield University said thorium must be bombarded with neutrons to drive the fission process. “There is no chain reaction. Fission dies the moment you switch off the photon beam. There are not enough neutrons for it continue of its own accord,” he said.
Dr Cywinski, who anchors a UK-wide thorium team, said the residual heat left behind in a crisis would be “orders of magnitude less” than in a uranium reactor.
The earth’s crust holds 80 years of uranium at expected usage rates, he said. Thorium is as common as lead. America has buried tons as a by-product of rare earth metals mining. Norway has so much that Oslo is planning a post-oil era where thorium might drive the country’s next great phase of wealth. Even Britain has seams in Wales and in the granite cliffs of Cornwall. Almost all the mineral is usable as fuel, compared to 0.7pc of uranium. There is enough to power civilization for thousands of years.
I write before knowing the outcome of the Fukushima drama, but as yet none of 15,000 deaths are linked to nuclear failure. Indeed, there has never been a verified death from nuclear power in the West in half a century. Perspective is in order.
We cannot avoid the fact that two to three billion extra people now expect – and will obtain – a western lifestyle. China alone plans to produce 100m cars and buses every year by 2020.
The International Atomic Energy Agency said the world currently has 442 nuclear reactors. They generate 372 gigawatts of power, providing 14pc of global electricity. Nuclear output must double over twenty years just to keep pace with the rise of the China and India.
If a string of countries cancel or cut back future reactors, let alone follow Germany’s Angela Merkel in shutting some down, they shift the strain onto gas, oil, and coal. Since the West is also cutting solar subsidies, they can hardly expect the solar industry to plug the gap.
BP’s disaster at Macondo should teach us not to expect too much from oil reserves deep below the oceans, beneath layers of blinding salt. Meanwhile, we rely uneasily on Wahabi repression to crush dissent in the Gulf and keep Arabian crude flowing our way. So where can we turn, unless we revert to coal and give up on the ice caps altogether? That would be courting fate.
US physicists in the late 1940s explored thorium fuel for power. It has a higher neutron yield than uranium, a better fission rating, longer fuel cycles, and does not require the extra cost of isotope separation.
The plans were shelved because thorium does not produce plutonium for bombs. As a happy bonus, it can burn up plutonium and toxic waste from old reactors, reducing radio-toxicity and acting as an eco-cleaner.
Dr Cywinski is developing an accelerator driven sub-critical reactor for thorium, a cutting-edge project worldwide. It needs to £300m of public money for the next phase, and £1.5bn of commercial investment to produce the first working plant. Thereafter, economies of scale kick in fast. The idea is to make pint-size 600MW reactors.
Yet any hope of state support seems to have died with the Coalition budget cuts, and with it hopes that Britain could take a lead in the energy revolution. It is understandable, of course. Funds are scarce. The UK has already put its efforts into the next generation of uranium reactors. Yet critics say vested interests with sunk costs in uranium technology succeeded in chilling enthusiasm.
The same happened a decade ago to a parallel project by Nobel laureate Carlo Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research). France’s nuclear industry killed proposals for funding from Brussels, though a French group is now working on thorium in Grenoble.
Norway’s Aker Solution has bought Professor Rubbia’s patent. It had hoped to build the first sub-critical reactor in the UK, but seems to be giving up on Britain and locking up a deal to build it in China instead, where minds and wallets are more open.
So the Chinese will soon lead on this thorium technology as well as molten-salts. Good luck to them. They are doing Mankind a favour. We may get through the century without tearing each other apart over scarce energy and wrecking the planet.

Safe nuclear does exist, and China is leading the way with thorium - Telegraph
 
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I heard that the world's first and only Thorium reactor is in India! Is it true or not?
 
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the one China is working on is Morten salt reactor; it's much better and safer than Thorium fueled Liquid Fluoride reactor which India, Uk...have
Actually you have it backwards. India's Thorium reactor is solid fueled, not a molten salt reactor. China's thorium reactor research is basing on liquid flouride thorium reactors.
 
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Any major technology in the world is inevitablelly based on

Sheer amount of IQ cluster + World-leading universities/research institutes+ Sh!t load of funding+ Burning desire and hard work.

India possesses none of above factors.

So my question remains "Technology of Hot Air Research aside, which other major technology of India is the first and only one in the world? "

It is impossible !

So there is no such a thing as " (world's) first and only Thorium reactor in India"

No wonder above 2 Indian memebers immediately shot me with their Hot Air, which seems to be heritable. :lol:
 
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Any major technology in the world is inevitablelly based on

Sheer amount of IQ cluster + World-leading universities/research institutes+ Sh!t load of funding+ Burning desire and hard work.

India possesses none of above factors.

So my question remains "Technology of Hot Air Research aside, which other major technology of India is the first and only one in the world? "

It is impossible !

So there is no such a thing as " (world's) first and only Thorium reactor in India"

No wonder above 2 Indian memebers immediately shot me with their Hot Air, which seems to be heritable. :lol:

Actually, major technology in the world is based on

the ability to question rules and authorities + ability to do some original research and not copy

Poor chinese tend to possess none of these and thus tend to divert their shortcomings by attacking Indians.
 
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:lol: Technology of Hot Air Research aside, which other major technology India is the first and only one in the world?

India's Kakrapar-1 was the first reactor in the world to use thorium rather than depleted uranium to achieve power flattening across the reactor core.

Here is the link : Thorium: Cleaner Nuclear Power? - Power Technology


India, which has about 25% of the world's thorium reserves, is developing a 300 MW prototype of a thorium-based Advanced Heavy Water Reactor (AHWR). The prototype is expected to be fully operational by 2011, following which five more reactors will be constructed.

Link : Development work on 300 MW advanced heavy water reactor at advanced stage - Times Of India
 
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Is it true that india has one of the largest thorium deposits in the world ?
 
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India's Kakrapar-1 was the first reactor in the world to use thorium rather than depleted uranium to achieve power flattening across the reactor core.

Here is the link : Thorium: Cleaner Nuclear Power? - Power Technology

India's Kakrapar-1 achieved critical in 1995, and was unplugged soon after due to a major accident and re-plugged earlier this year.

However , that India led the world to field such a minor technology at a time is very different from that India led the world in its tech. " the early pioneer of the technology was U.S. physicist Alvin Weinberg at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, who helped develop a working nuclear plant [ read THE FIRST] using liquid fuel in the 1960s. " ( source: Thorium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Therefore, it is correct to say that the US developed the technology and India used it ( by collaborating with [read begging] the US researchers and /or with other means) firstly in a large trial.

This is because in nuclear field, as well as in all other major technology fields, India is decades and more away behind world leaders. It is, thereof, impossible that India leads here or there. Illogical and hence impossible.

Therefore whether India was the first to field such a thing or not has no significance. To claim that India was the first ( with the sinuation that it leads the rest of the world in the tech as we meant in above discuss context) is similar as to claim that Somalia desert fielded world's first QED Accelerator ( presumablely researched by the US /UK scientists instead of Somali pirates ? ) or as to claim that Porto Rico fielded the world's biggest (hence the "first", too) telescope, or world's deep-sea oil drill was first used in the shore of Indonesia ( "who got the tech to have done that?" ) , which has no meanng in either case, surely.


India, which has about 25% of the world's thorium reserves, is developing a 300 MW prototype of a thorium-based Advanced Heavy Water Reactor (AHWR). The prototype is expected to be fully operational by 2011, following which five more reactors will be constructed.

Link : Development work on 300 MW advanced heavy water reactor at advanced stage - Times Of India


As for your world-leading Hot Air technology, one thing puzzles me that is your operational "AHWR" as expected as your LCA , or as expected as your Arjunk? :lol:
 
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