SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

[StormBreaker]

It's a 2nd prototype of V2, not V1 nor you call it V3 ... there is a difference between versions and amendments in prototype...

V1-1
V1-2 (Updates in V1-1)
V1-3 (Updates in V1-2)

V2-1 (Version changed when major updates across the platform including design, structure, internal and external components)
V2-2 (Updates in V2)

It happens when you just only get information from the internet LOL

If I will take your logic, then F-35 probably has more than 100 prototypes ... If you start calling every single change and amendment "New prototype"




Your answer is above buddy!

Pardon my ignorance,

Has V1 seen three different units ?

 

[Rank]

Pardon my ignorance,

Has V1 seen three different units ?

I have just provided how things are working... You can label it whatever you like but in reality, V2 has more stuff, upgrades in design structure (internally and externally). This is not the prototype V3. Prototype means gonna see completely new aircraft in terms of everything whereas you have already seen exactly similar kinds of aircraft before (as deino) since 2016. So what does that mean? obviously these are amendments, upgrades in the V2.

See the difference. Now match left one (Golden one) with the latest picture and let me know how many major changes you've seen in the new one. If not then its a V2-2 maybe V2-3 or maybe V2-4

 

[StormBreaker]

I have just provided how things are working... You can label it whatever you like but in reality, V2 has more stuff, upgrades in design structure (internally and externally). This is not the prototype V3. Prototype means gonna see completely new aircraft in terms of everything whereas you have already seen exactly similar kinds of aircraft before (as deino) since 2016. So what does that mean? obviously these are amendments, upgrades in the V2.

I see,

You have got a valid point.

However, That logic conflicts with the Thunder And J-20 prototypes history.

Lack of official details about prototypes and developed units directly from the designer makes us all think in different ways.

The machine seems much similar to the one we saw in 2016. But we never saw that machine clearly with It’s PT number so we can assume this one is the same as the one from 2016 with maybe some optimizations.

That leaves a room for v3.

I have just provided how things are working... You can label it whatever you like but in reality, V2 has more stuff, upgrades in design structure (internally and externally). This is not the prototype V3. Prototype means gonna see completely new aircraft in terms of everything whereas you have already seen exactly similar kinds of aircraft before (as deino) since 2016. So what does that mean? obviously these are amendments, upgrades in the V2.

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See the difference. Now match left one (Golden one) with the latest picture and let me know how many major changes you've seen in the new one. If not then its a V2-2 maybe V2-3 or maybe V2-4

Oh ok

 

[Deino]

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See the difference. Now match left one (Golden one) with the latest picture and let me know how many major changes you've seen in the new one. If not then its a V2-2 maybe V2-3 or maybe V2-4

I think the changrs from demonstrator 31001 (aka V1) to 31003 (aka V2) are obvious but to conclude from the latest image only based on the missing pitot and the golden tinted canopy - other changes I cannot see - that it might be a V2-2 or more is IMO a bit farfetched.

 

[Silicon0000]

If I got it right, you mean it's the 3rd prototype of FC31 and 2nd prototype of FC31-V2. Right?

It's a 2nd prototype of V2, not V1 nor you call it V3 ... there is a difference between versions and amendments in prototype...

V1-1
V1-2 (Updates in V1-1)
V1-3 (Updates in V1-2)

V2-1 (Version changed when major updates across the platform including design, structure, internal and external components)
V2-2 (Updates in V2)

It happens when you just only get information from the internet LOL

If I will take your logic, then F-35 probably has more than 100 prototypes ... If you start calling every single change and amendment "New prototype"




Your answer is above buddy!

I have just provided how things are working... You can label it whatever you like but in reality, V2 has more stuff, upgrades in design structure (internally and externally). This is not the prototype V3. Prototype means gonna see completely new aircraft in terms of everything whereas you have already seen exactly similar kinds of aircraft before (as deino) since 2016. So what does that mean? obviously these are amendments, upgrades in the V2.

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See the difference. Now match left one (Golden one) with the latest picture and let me know how many major changes you've seen in the new one. If not then its a V2-2 maybe V2-3 or maybe V2-4

 

[Deino]

If I got it right, you mean it's the 3rd prototype of FC31 and 2nd prototype of FC31-V2. Right?

Yes and no, but this first V2 prototype is most likely a non-flying prototype.

So - at least like I understand tbe situation - there are three prototypes, one V1 (31001) and two V2 (a static one we haven't seen and 31003).

 

[LKJ86]

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[Rank]

Yes and no, but this first V2 prototype is most likely a non-flying prototype.

So - at least like I understand tbe situation - there are three prototypes, one V1 (31001) and two V2 (a static one we haven't seen and 31003).

The way we understand things are bit diff from aviation industry. You can call it proto 3 but in real, its a prototype 2. We have just seen static v of 2. This is exactly flying version of 2 u can say it ...

 

[Rank]

Another info no idea about authenticity of it. SAC has refused any foreign partnership in this project.

 

[Deino]

Another info no idea about authenticity of it. SAC has refused any foreign partnership in this project.

Which could be rsad as yet another hint for being niw a PLA priority project.

Let's wait and see

 

[Rank]

Another info no idea about authenticity of it. SAC has refused any foreign partnership in this project.

Once you involved partners in your project for whatever the reasons, you actually lose many customers. It's super easy to understand why. Your partners are well aware of the capability, flaws, in and outs of the project which probably a major key to failure in terms of sale. For instance (just creating a scenario for explanation) if tomorrow Pakistan officially becomes a partner in the FC-31 project (which is specifically designed for the foreign customers - that's what we know so far), that will probably narrow down the sale of the aircraft to many other countries. That obvious because Pakistan knows the ability, capability, strength of the aircraft so India won't go for it (another hint of refusing BLK70 of Lockheed). You only involved partners when you're running out of $$ or doesn't have enough $$ to initiate R&D. So in this case, SAC has enough funds to run this project on its own.

We will see bright accurate pictures in upcoming days with some authentic information on the aircraft as well.

 

[Rank]

Old but for reference

 

[LKJ86]

Once you involved partners in your project for whatever the reasons, you actually lose many customers. It's super easy to understand why. Your partners are well aware of the capability, flaws, in and outs of the project which probably a major key to failure in terms of sale.

That's not the point.
In a JV project, what different partners need are usually not the same, needing to waste a lot of time to compromise. And it would be a disaster for a project.

 

[JSCh]

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[Deino]

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So again back at Shenyang-Beiling?