SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

[Yeti]

Unproven fighters can not be measured only when they face a real air fight can their worth be measured!

 

[Yeti]

It is why fighters like the legendary F16, F15 go into the history books because they proved their merit in countless wars as did the Mig 29 which in India's hands in Kargil did a marvellous job.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Unproven fighters can not be measured only when they face a real air fight can their worth be measured!

At least we're not measuring from paper, we have a prototype and it's flying high

 

[Yeti]

At least we're not measuring from paper, we have a prototype and it's flying high

Yes but the bird is unproven it has never faced a real combat experience so it remains untested as do it's credentials.

 

[Max Pain]

Indian really like Xiaomi and Huawei smartphone. I am astonished when I visited flipkart. If you check the Huawei honor 6 page, you will be convinced.

I read some news that it says J31 will SOP in 5 years and the engine will be matured in 2 years, lets wait and see.

even Im a fan of Huawei, my Current phone is also from Huawei

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

It is why fighters like the legendary F16, F15 go into the history books because they proved their merit in countless wars as did the Mig 29 which in India's hands in Kargil did a marvellous job.

That's total bullshit, US have huge support behind F-16 and F-15 sucess, they have AWAC, satellite spy and communication, all kind of force multipliers to ensure the flawless victory and wihtout saying that they have best research facility and training to make the pilot the best of the best...so all the success should not contribute to F-!6 and F-15 along.

 

[Max Pain]

Yes but the bird is unproven it has never faced a real combat experience so it remains untested as do it's credentials.

there are many other jets that never faced any combat, they're unproven too right?
even Rafale is in that list and you guys are going to but that unproven platform.

 

[Yeti]

That's total bullshit, US have huge support behind F-16 and F-15 sucess, they have AWAC, satellite spy and communication, all kind of force multipliers to ensure the flawless victory and wihtout saying that they have best research facility and training to make the pilot the best of the best...so all the success should not contribute to F-!6 and F-15 along.

Well duh this is 2015 of course you have force multipliers, India itself has the Israeli phalcon awacs! but a untested fighter is still untested it has not witnessed any real combat.

China can 'claim' this is the best fighter in the world but the proof is in the pudding! until it actually proves its merit it will never be legendary or have a cult status like the F16. F15 or the Sukhoi's.

 

[Max Pain]

That's total bullshit, US have huge support behind F-16 and F-15 sucess, they have AWAC, satellite spy and communication, all kind of force multipliers to ensure the flawless victory and wihtout saying that they have best research facility and training to make the pilot the best of the best...so all the success should not contribute to F-!6 and F-15 along.

dont worry, we're gonna use the J-31 in combat scenarios once we get our hands on it,
we always have some terrorist hideouts to bomb

 

[Yeti]

there are many other jets that never faced any combat, they're unproven too right?
even Rafale is in that list and you guys are going to but that unproven platform.

Well no the Rafale has been tested in the recent Libyan conflict.

 

[Yeti]

dont worry, we're gonna use the J-31 in combat scenarios once we get our hands on it,
we always have some terrorist hideouts to bomb

testing bombs on some rats in the desert is hardly proving combat worth, a fighter will be measured when it goes into battle against other similar fighters.

 

[Max Pain]

Well no the Rafale has been tested in the recent Libyan conflict.

really? you might wanna mention some links, it'll back your argument.
can you say the same about raptor?
or for that matter, MKI ?

 

[Max Pain]

testing bombs on some rats in the desert is hardly proving combat worth, a fighter will be measured when it goes into battle against other similar fighters.

yet there have been jets that failed even that.

as years pass buy all the the new jets will be unproven platform since the prospect of wars decreases.
wars have become too expensive now.

 

[Yeti]

really? you might wanna mention some links, it'll back your argument.
can you say the same about raptor?
or for that matter, MKI ?

Raptor I believe did see combat in the Iraq war because of it's stealth features as for the MKI it is a upgraded version of the Sukhoi family which has seen combat also.

 

[Yeti]