S-400 Triumf SAM Killer.

[SrNair]

Contrary to the idea being pushed here, these S-400 will primarily be used to safeguard major indian cities (economic hubs) against Pakistani ballistic/nuclear missile attacks.

For that we have already ABM in development.

S-400 claimed targetable speed is MACH 14. Although it is claim not demonstrated. It can target some Pakistani missiles, not all.

It seems you dont know the real meaning of interception.

S-400 claimed targetable speed is MACH 14. Although it is claim not demonstrated. It can target some Pakistani missiles, not all.

 

[Genghis khan1]

For that we have already ABM in development.




It seems you dont know the real meaning of interception.

It seems you don't know the real meaning of targetable speed.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Can i Laugh on this

Sure go ahead, just make sure nobody is around you, People might get nightmares from it.

 

[Signalian]

S-400 has 4 missile in its list

9M96E - Range 40 Km , Alt - 20 Km , ARH Homing HTK System , Against Air Breathing Target and MRBM class Missile ( 1000 km Range ) Naval Variant
9M96E1 - Range 125 km , Alt - 30 km , ARH Homing HTK System ,Against Air Breathing Target and MRBM class Missile ( 1000 km Range ) Naval Variant
48N6DM - Range 250 km , Alt 30-35 Km , SAGG Guidance , Against IRBM Target with range of 3000 km ( 4.8 km/sec ) , Air Breathing Target
40N6 - Range 400-450 km , Alt - 185 km , ARH Guidance , Against IRBM target with range of 3500 km ( 5 km/sec ) , Air Breathing Target

As well as Akash+lrsam . so its almost invulnerable to any pak threat.

tell more about 40N6, it has an active seeker at some stage?

PL-12 has a 'home-on-jam' mode that allows it to passively track and engage an emitting target, without ever using its own active radar or a radar from the launch aircraft. what does 40N6 emit?

I havent found any thing conclusive yet on an AAM vs AAM or AAM Vs 40N6. Japanese Mitsubishi AAM 4 has an AESA seeker.

 

[desimorty]

Your all idoits. The threat this SAM provides is not something Pakistan can deal with easily or will even have the opportunity to do so. The S-400 like in Russia would be used inside to protect major infrastructure and assets of strategic level. S-300/400 series were never designed for forward deployment. Akash is designed for forward depoloyment and to get to the S-400 first, the PAF would have to get past these clustered bubble defenses. The S-400 does not restrict the PAF inside Pakistan. If the S-400 is close enough to target aircraft over lahore than the PAF can target the S-400 radar system as well with anti radation air launched weapons. Air power is just the longest range arty militarise have, thats it.
Getting past low flying and numerical superiority of the Armies air defense is another question for the PAF. They would be more concerned with IAF offence then some SAM site placed in India itself. The PAF no longer has an offence role anymore.

 

[Ultima Thule]

S-400 claimed targetable speed is MACH 14. Although it is claim not demonstrated. It can target some Pakistani missiles, not all.

S-400 is formidable defence weapon in the hands of INDIAN ARMED FORCES, its rendered all PAKISTANI ballistic, cruise missiles and drone useless to India, get the fact straight Mr Genghis Khan1 and stop posting a childish post

Your all idoits. The threat this SAM provides is not something Pakistan can deal with easily or will even have the opportunity to do so. The S-400 like in Russia would be used inside to protect major infrastructure and assets of strategic level. S-300/400 series were never designed for forward deployment. Akash is designed for forward depoloyment and to get to the S-400 first, the PAF would have to get past these clustered bubble defenses. The S-400 does not restrict the PAF inside Pakistan. If the S-400 is close enough to target aircraft over lahore than the PAF can target the S-400 radar system as well with anti radation air launched weapons. Air power is just the longest range arty militarise have, thats it.
Getting past low flying and numerical superiority of the Armies air defense is another question for the PAF. They would be more concerned with IAF offence then some SAM site placed in India itself. The PAF no longer has an offence role anymore.

I am fully agree from your post, you're on the spot Mr jatt

 

[Genghis khan1]

S-400 is formidable defence weapon in the hands of INDIAN ARMED FORCES, its rendered all PAKISTANI ballistic, cruise missiles and drone useless to India, get the fact straight Mr Genghis Khan1 and stop posting a childish post


I am fully agree from your post, you're on the spot Mr jatt

S-400 missile has max speed of Mach 6.2. According to the Federation of American Scientists LGM 30 Minuteman travels at Mach 19+. Similar Pakistan Ballistic missiles speeds are upto MACH 17+. Now don't make yourself look stupid anymore and learn to do little research. S-400 can't even intercept some of Pakistani missiles.

 

[cerberus]

@genghis khan


Speed you are mentioned is a terminal phase of the missile

S-400 will Made Kill at high altitude.

Ever heard what is THAAD

Terminal High Altitude Area Defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cerberus]

@Genghiskhan

Speed you are mentioned is a terminal phase of the missile

S-400 will Made Kill at high altitude.

Ever heard what is THAAD

Terminal High Altitude Area Defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ultima Thule]

S-400 missile has max speed of Mach 6.2. According to the Federation of American Scientists LGM 30 Minuteman travels at Mach 19+. Similar Pakistan Ballistic missiles speeds are upto MACH 17+. Now don't make yourself look stupid anymore and learn to do little research. S-400 can't even intercept some of Pakistani missiles.

OK S-400 is not built for intercepting ICBM, it built for intercepting IRBM and MRBM and you believe global security website every site are based on estimate not actual fact, no one knows the actual capabilities of S-400, only Russia knows its actual capabilities, don't fools yourself with this crapy site

 

[Transhumanist]

S-400 missile has max speed of Mach 6.2. According to the Federation of American Scientists LGM 30 Minuteman travels at Mach 19+. Similar Pakistan Ballistic missiles speeds are upto MACH 17+. Now don't make yourself look stupid anymore and learn to do little research. S-400 can't even intercept some of Pakistani missiles.

Those speeds don't really matter. S-400 isn't chasing a missile, it's intercepting it by meeting the missile at the same point in space at a given time. What matters is launch time and accurate prediction algorithms and track info.

NROL-21 with a speed of 7.8 km/s was intercepted by an SM-3 with a speed of 3 km/s because the US military was able to track and calculate the satellite projected trajectory for a given time.

The launch

The intercept

S-400 follows the same dynamic as any other ABM such as THAAD or PAC-3. A target is tracked, it's trajectory calculated and a defensive missile is launched to meet the target at a given space during a given time.

Speed allows you to respond faster, range farther, but proper tracking and calculations are much more important to ensuring a proper interception.

They don't chase, they meet - notice the side profile of this Hera? It means an SM-3 is meeting the missile in a given space, otherwise you'd see its aft end.

Same with THAAD. Again, notice the direction of the target relative to the interceptor:

And once more with PAC-3:

 

[cerberus]

S-400 missile has max speed of Mach 6.2. According to the Federation of American Scientists LGM 30 Minuteman travels at Mach 19+. Similar Pakistan Ballistic missiles speeds are upto MACH 17+. Now don't make yourself look stupid anymore and learn to do little research. S-400 can't even intercept some of Pakistani missiles.

By your logic
The terminal phase of Agni-5 is Mach 24+ so that make it invincible For all ABM to counter it

 

[Transhumanist]

By your logic
The terminal phase of Agni-5 is Mach 24+ so that make it invincible For all ABM to counter it

Be nice and explain the technicals behind the concept, no need for condescension... GMD says hello

The launch

And intercept

Courtesy of the Missile Defense Agency. GMD is rated against ICBMs

 

[Genghis khan1]

Those speeds don't really matter. S-400 isn't chasing a missile, it's intercepting it by meeting the missile at the same point in space at a given time. What matters is launch time and accurate prediction algorithms and track info.

NROL-21 with a speed of 7.8 km/s was intercepted by an SM-3 with a speed of 3 km/s because the US military was able to track and calculate the satellite projected trajectory for a given time.

The launch

The intercept

S-400 follows the same dynamic as any other ABM such as THAAD or PAC-3. A target is tracked, it's trajectory calculated and a defensive missile is launched to meet the target at a given space during a given time.

Speed allows you to respond faster, range farther, but proper tracking and calculations are much more important to ensuring a proper interception.

They don't chase, they meet:

Tracking and calculations is easy. Interception in real life is a whole different Ball game. Technological scale, Russia is not US and you are comparing SAM system with a multi-billion dollar dedicated ABM system. Even US ABM has success rate of somewhere 60% given everything is ideal. There is a reason US Air Force spending billions on Air-force airborne laser, (ABL). ABL wants to target ICBM before they can enter into Terminal phase, cuz once ICBM is in Terminal phase, it's currently impossible to intercept it.

By your logic
The terminal phase of Agni-5 is Mach 24+ so that make it invincible For all ABM to counter it

By my logic, lol. How about you google this logic and find out yourself.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Be nice and explain the technicals behind the concept, no need for condescension... GMD says hello

The launch

And intercept

Courtesy of the Missile Defense Agency. GMD is rated against ICBMs

What about ABM systems being overwhelmed?