Russo-Turkish war scenarios

[libertycall]

Is this a joke or what? Why should Iranian ground forces participate in a Russo-Turkish war? And about GCC, we have seen all their might in Yemen, and they are losing against an army of poor people with Ak-47s and small rockets. And honestly, you think GCC dares to touch Iran without seeing their main cities burned to ground? Let me assure you, this is a war that will have no winner. And Iran and Turkey would never go to war. Our borders are among the oldest in the world and despite huge differences on Syria, leaders are not stupid to declare war on each other.

take a chill pill. It's a scenario. If you believe Iran will intervene by sending Iranian armor into Syria or Turkey then I'm happy for you to incorporate it into the overall wargame. Since you don't think Iran will do that, then the question is moot.

And once again, this is a wargame. It's not about whether you think this or that party is right.

 

[Serpentine]

take a chill pill. It's a scenario. If you believe Iran will intervene by sending Iranian armor into Syria or Turkey then I'm happy for you to incorporate it into the overall wargame. Since you don't think Iran will do that, then the question is moot.

And once again, this is a wargame. It's not about whether you think this or that party is right.

When you write a scenario, it should have minimum amount of logic behind it, otherwise discussing such scenario is wasting time. I can also say Russia will nuke Ankara and Istanbul in first day of war, and it ends in hours. Is it a scenario? Yes it is, but is it logical? no.

 

[libertycall]

When you write a scenario, it should have minimum amount of logic behind it, otherwise discussing such scenario is wasting time. I can also say Russia will nuke Ankara and Istanbul in first day of war, and it ends in hours. Is it a scenario? Yes it is, but is it logical? no.

Sure, go ahead. In this scenario according to you Russia will nuke Turkey on the second day. Now what?

- How many nukes does it take before the Turkish government decides to surrender? Japan after losing millions of its soldiers and people and suffering two nuclear bomb attacks wasn't prepared to surrender, until it faced the prospect of a Russian invasion and occupation of all Japan.

- As soon as Russia nukes Turkey, what do you think will be the FIRST thing all of the East European states will demand of America before they agree to continue being allied with the USA

In your previous views you've indicated that the USA (a vastly more powerful state than Russia) doesn't dare to invade Iran because of the alleged incredible fighting abilities of the IRGC. Do you think the Turkish military is less powerful? Or perhaps the Turkish people are less than the Iranian public?

 

[Saho]

Russia is made out of different ethnic groups. Only the Slavs are loyal to Russia so for the starters, they should have their eyes set on the Turkic groups, North Caucasians, 20 million Russian Muslims who have been marginalized for many decades and some minor ethnics. I am sure there are Slavic opposition as well where they can support them against Emperor Putin.

The three should be Turkeys top priority in order to destabilize and disintegrate Emperor Putin led-Russian empire and form their own ethnic state with the recognition of the Turkish republic, reunite with their long lost cousins or install a Slavic puppet. Secondly, Georgia and Ukraine who have been a victim of Emperor Putin's aggression should be in their list of supporting them military and financially and use them to weaken the Russian empire and their influence in eastern Europe.

What Russia would do is support PKK/YPG military and financially within Turkey, Syria and Iraq to destabilize Turkey. They would create an alliance with Greece, Armenia and Cyprus so they can act tough and reclaim lands verbally. Iran would be part of this because Turkey oppose Assad and Russian interference which is something Iran hates. They also support the Kurdish puppet in Northern Iraq unlike Iran who supports the opposite having preferred Iraq being one under Shia rule. I am sure Emperor Putin can find ways to manipulate the Turks to bring them into his side. Russia would make sure Turkey is encircled by enemies and destabilize it.

The two big boys of eastern Europe have biggest weakness and two can exploit it.

 

[damm1t]

Russia on the paper stronger one but both are enough mature not to go war each other with massive military forces, They may bully Georgia or Ukraine but not us. But in case of war everybody specially Russian fanboys here will see how prepared our army to any threat. Hope it won't be necessary and military secrets keep their secracy for the good of both side.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Bombed to dust. Do you think Turkey would surrender after a few missiles from Putin? What do you think it would take for Turkey to surrender?



In which case Turkey gains nothing by sitting back and waiting. Please reply with a realistic end game scenario, not fantasies of your ideal scenario.

If the war breakout, first thing NATO going to do is, find a reason to disown Turkey. These white skin people will lay there life for Turkey.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

People over-estimate Russia and under-estimate Turkey. Due to Turkey's geographical position they can easily dominate the region if they play defensive.

Turkey's navy could easily secure the Black Sea and the Mediterranean - wreaking havoc in Russian coastal areas - the Turkish Army is more than capable of defending itself from a land invasion as the only route Russia has is through the mountainous Caucasus mountains removing its numerical advantage.

Russian Air Force is loose and spread thin, whereas Turkish Air Force are confined and concentrated. TaF could do more effective, faster and devastating effects in enemy territory.

Turkey would gain upper-hand in the short-term and if Russia decides to fully mobilize then Russian could gain the upper-hand in the long term.

This Scenario is relevant if NATO does not get involved - if it does; then RIP Russia.

 

[saif123]

It's the time Turkey get involved in the Syrian war fully as a formidable force of Syrian opposition forces still exist and need some help from Turko-Saudi alliance specially air defence and electronic warfare. As Russia and Iran are now fully involved, Turkey & Saudi must involve themselves they have a dedicated force of fighters available on ground in the form of FSA, Islamic Front, Conquest Amy etc.
Turkey need to send ground forces with arial and air defence support with Electronic Warefare systems to counter Sukhois as well as S-400. Or else time is running out and then to control PKK-PYD-YPG with Russian & Iranian backing will be verydifficult.
One more thing Turkey must understand and is understanding slowly that even NATO & US cannot be on its side as they prefer anti Islamic forces of Marxist-Communist PKK-PYD-YPG and Iran instead of the mainstream Sunni Islamist or the mainstream Ummah to prevail.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Russians will launch a lot more then "few" missiles

And you think Turkey doesn't have the capability to intercept those missiles or fire back? The only thing Turkey has to worry about is the Caspian sea - Russia knows it cannot go to war with Turkey or else it loses the Black sea.

 

[Oublious]

Fanboys with ther ICBM, this is a conventional ware not nuke ahahah.

 

[T-Rex]

In your previous views you've indicated that the USA (a vastly more powerful state than Russia) doesn't dare to invade Iran because of the alleged incredible fighting abilities of the IRGC. Do you think the Turkish military is less powerful? Or perhaps the Turkish people are less than the Iranian public?

Wonderful point! I wonder what the Iranians have to say to this. Russians are bluffing, they won't risk a wider conflict for a hated despot like Asad. They know all too well what the consequences are. After the bombing of the hospitals and schools and the terrorist attack against Turkey the world opinion is already stacked heavily against them. The European states also know all too well who'll be next victim of the Siberian bear if Turkey falls. So, after the terrorist attack in Istanbul this the ideal time for turkey to create a safe zone for the Sunni Muslims in northern Syria along its border. If it waits too long the window of opportunity will close.

 

[T-123456]

In your previous views you've indicated that the USA (a vastly more powerful state than Russia) doesn't dare to invade Iran because of the alleged incredible fighting abilities of the IRGC. Do you think the Turkish military is less powerful? Or perhaps the Turkish people are less than the Iranian public?

And yet,you take him serious?

 

[DemirkanTR]

Let's consider Syrian war.

Sides;

-Syrian Opposition (supported by Turkey, Qatar and some Gulf States. West and US? Just bullshit. They only sell guns and take money from rich Arabs, that's all. They never supported Syrian Opposition. More than that, they fooled them and wasted their (and their supporters like Turkey) time, waiting for international intervention.
Their enemies: Syrian Arab Army, Iran (so called) Islamic Republic, Hezbussheitan, Shia terrorists all over the region, Ruskies, ISIS, YPG (and secret enemies US and Europe)
Their weapons: Captured Tanks and other armored vehicles, TOWS, Light guns and homemade weapons

-Syrian Arab Army (supported by Iran (so called) Islamic Republic, Hezbussheitan, Shia terrorists all over the region, Ruskies, YPG (secret supporters: US and Europe)
Their enemies: Syrian Opposition, Turkey, Qatar and some Gulf Countries and ISIS (sometimes)
Their weapons: Fighter Jets, All kind of missiles, Thousands of tanks and other armored vehicles, all kinds of light and heavy weapons, unlimited weapon and human support from Iran, Lebanon, Iraq and Russia.

Yeah, that's the situation more or less. And they still can't defeat Syrian rebels (for 5 fuvking years) who are literally left alone and have NOTHING in their hands to fight, but you come here and say Ruskies can destroy Turkey as if it's a kindergarden game? In your dreams, you Putin-lickers!

PS: It's funny how members of long-time colonized nations think Turks are like themselves and don't react to occupiers

 

[XY1234]

We agreed years ago to sell ARROWs to Turkey. But our US ally protested against the deal, cause we got the core technology from them. After that decision our Turkish friends could easy see who was preparing for their bloody future. BTW, even now you can be sure that Turkey is capable to defeat all neighbors without exception very fast; except Israel.
Turkey had a brilliant strategy called 2 1/2 front war. That what happens now, is a so called stress test. The internal low intensity 1/2 conflict may escalate soon if Kurds establish a strong power front in whole Syria. If that happens Turkey will have 1 + 1/2 fronts. If Turkey doesn't withdraw his soldiers Iraq will strike against Turkish Forces in North Iraq. Thats then a 2 front war, cause Iraq is a half portion for Turkey. If Turkey clashes with Russia in Syria , Russia will move massive from Armenia. Russia won't risk his limited Navy which has only nuclear deterrence and also not his limited modern Air Force and would cry if the old bears would be shot from the sky.
Summa sumarum 3 front war !
Maybe that could exceed Turkish power.

 

[DemirkanTR]

After that decision our Turkish friends could easy see who was preparing for their bloody future.

Our so called +60 years-long ally! The worst nation and state of entire human history!