What's new

russia's new hypersonic missiles to destroy 5 th gen aircraft and cruise missiles.

Moscow

BANNED
Joined
Dec 20, 2008
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
0
CHKALOVSKY (Moscow Region), December 26 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Air Force is testing a new missile for the S-400 Triumf air defense system, the Air Force commander said on Friday.

The S-400 (SA-21 Growler) is designed to intercept and destroy airborne targets at a distance of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), twice the range of the U.S. MIM-104 Patriot, and 2.5 times that of the S-300PMU-2.

The system is expected to form the cornerstone of Russia's theater air and missile defenses up to 2020 or even 2025.

"The S-400 system is being successfully deployed with air defense units. At present, we are testing a new missile for this system," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

Russia successfully conducted last year live firing tests of the S-400 air defense complex at the Kapustin Yar firing range in south Russia's Astrakhan Region, and deployed a battalion of the first missile regiment equipped with the new system to protect the airspace surrounding Moscow.

The system is believed to be able to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles, with an effective range of up to 3,500 kilometers (2,200 miles) and a speed of up to 4.8 kilometers (3 miles) per second.

A regular S-400 battalion comprises at least eight launchers with 32 missiles and a mobile command post, according to various sources. The new state arms procurement program until 2015 stipulates the purchase of enough S-400 air defense systems to arm 18 battalions during this period.



RIA Novosti - Russia - Russia testing new missile for S-400 air defense system


:cheers:
 
this system will render the US defence sheild in the region to be vulnerable .as this new missile system can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.
advantages are its hypersonic speed which is greayer than mach 5.

its a first of its kind as far as i know, as the us is yet to perfect the hypersonic technology.

:cheers:
 
this system will render the US defence sheild in the region to be vulnerable .as this new missile system can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.
advantages are its hypersonic speed which is greayer than mach 5.

its a first of its kind as far as i know, as the us is yet to perfect the hypersonic technology.

:cheers:

The missile shield is on the wrong axis to counter Russian missiles and with only 10 missiles it couldn't do much anyway, if the issue is the radar and its ability to see into Russia's airspace then that point is void. The US can already spy into Russia whenever it wants with Satellites and existing radars.

Also if the missile is hypersonic it will barely be able to manoeuvre if it can be manoeuvred at all.
 
Speed of up to 4.8 kilometres per second??
Thats a speed of 17280 km per hour or 10737.2 miles per hour

Something tells me thats not right
 
this system will render the US defence sheild in the region to be vulnerable .as this new missile system can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.
advantages are its hypersonic speed which is greayer than mach 5.

its a first of its kind as far as i know, as the us is yet to perfect the hypersonic technology.

:cheers:

Any Chance of selling it to India??? ...:whistle:
 
this system will render the US defence sheild in the region to be vulnerable .as this new missile system can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.
advantages are its hypersonic speed which is greayer than mach 5.

its a first of its kind as far as i know, as the us is yet to perfect the hypersonic technology.

:cheers:

Correct me if I am wrong but S 400 is upgrade of S 300 system. So it is a defensive weapon how it will effect the US defense shield?

And hypersonic version? I think BrahMos ver 2 is going to be hypersonic which has recently been passed the lab test in India at mach 5.26.

Zaheer: There is no talk going on for S 400. For Indian needs IAF is looking for Barak 8 (or 2 whatever name you take) for air defense role. And anti BM role will be taken up by Indian ABM system.
 
Speed of up to 4.8 kilometres per second??
Thats a speed of 17280 km per hour or 10737.2 miles per hour

Something tells me thats not right

its not me who is claiming the data ,i have provided the russian link which says so and many things seems to be impossible .below is the mathematics


High-speed flow around objects
Flight can be roughly classified in five categories:

Subsonic: Ma < 1
Sonic: Ma=1
Transonic: 0.8 < Ma < 1.2
Supersonic: 1.2 < Ma < 5
Hypersonic: Ma > 5
(For comparison: the required speed for low Earth orbit is ca. 7.5 km·s-1 = Ma 25.4 in air at high altitudes)

At transonic speeds, the flow field around the object includes both sub- and supersonic parts. The transonic period begins when first zones of Ma>1 flow appear around the object. In case of an airfoil (such as an aircraft's wing), this typically happens above the wing. Supersonic flow can decelerate back to subsonic only in a normal shock; this typically happens before the trailing edge. (Fig.1a)

As the velocity increases, the zone of Ma>1 flow increases towards both leading and trailing edges. As Ma=1 is reached and passed, the normal shock reaches the trailing edge and becomes a weak oblique shock: the flow decelerates over the shock, but remains supersonic. A normal shock is created ahead of the object, and the only subsonic zone in the flow field is a small area around the object's leading edge. (Fig.1b)


(a) (b)

Fig. 1. Mach number in transonic airflow around an airfoil; Ma<1 (a) and Ma>1 (b).

When an aircraft exceeds Mach 1 (i.e. the sound barrier) a large pressure difference is created just in front of the aircraft. This abrupt pressure difference, called a shock wave, spreads backward and outward from the aircraft in a cone shape (a so-called Mach cone). It is this shock wave that causes the sonic boom heard as a fast moving aircraft travels overhead. A person inside the aircraft will not hear this. The higher the speed, the more narrow the cone; at just over Ma=1 it is hardly a cone at all, but closer to a slightly concave plane.

At fully supersonic velocity the shock wave starts to take its cone shape, and flow is either completely supersonic, or (in case of a blunt object), only a very small subsonic flow area remains between the object's nose and the shock wave it creates ahead of itself. (In the case of a sharp object, there is no air between the nose and the shock wave: the shock wave starts from the nose.)

As the Mach number increases, so does the strength of the shock wave and the Mach cone becomes increasingly narrow. As the fluid flow crosses the shock wave, its speed is reduced and temperature, pressure, and density increase. The stronger the shock, the greater the changes. At high enough Mach numbers the temperature increases so much over the shock that ionization and dissociation of gas molecules behind the shock wave begin. Such flows are called hypersonic.

It is clear that any object traveling at hypersonic velocities will likewise be exposed to the same extreme temperatures as the gas behind the nose shock wave, and hence choice of heat-resistant materials becomes important.


[edit] High-speed flow in a channel
As a flow in a channel crosses M=1 becomes supersonic, one significant change takes place. Common sense would lead one to expect that contracting the flow channel would increase the flow speed (i.e. making the channel narrower results in faster air flow) and at subsonic speeds this holds true. However, once the flow becomes supersonic, the relationship of flow area and speed is reversed: expanding the channel actually increases the speed.

The obvious result is that in order to accelerate a flow to supersonic, one needs a convergent-divergent nozzle, where the converging section accelerates the flow to M=1, sonic speeds, and the diverging section continues the acceleration. Such nozzles are called de Laval nozzles and in extreme cases they are able to reach incredible, hypersonic velocities (Mach 13 at sea level).

An aircraft Machmeter or electronic flight information system (EFIS) can display Mach number derived from stagnation pressure (pitot tube) and static pressure.


[edit] Calculating Mach Number
Assuming air to be an ideal gas, the formula to compute Mach number in a subsonic compressible flow is derived from Bernoulli's equation for M<1:[3]


where:

is Mach number
is impact pressure and
is static pressure
is the ratio of specific heats
The formula to compute Mach number in a supersonic compressible flow is derived from the Rayleigh Supersonic Pitot equation:


where:

is now impact pressure measured behind a normal shock
 
Speed of up to 4.8 kilometres per second??
Thats a speed of 17280 km per hour or 10737.2 miles per hour

Something tells me thats not right

mach number is the ratio between object speed and the speed of sound .

anything above mach 5 is hypersonic mach 5 is 5 multiplied by 330= 1650meters/sec and not 4.8 km/sec anything above 1650m/sec is hypersonic and its possible.:cheers:
 
Correct me if I am wrong but S 400 is upgrade of S 300 system. So it is a defensive weapon how it will effect the US defense shield?

And hypersonic version? I think BrahMos ver 2 is going to be hypersonic which has recently been passed the lab test in India at mach 5.26.

Zaheer: There is no talk going on for S 400. For Indian needs IAF is looking for Barak 8 (or 2 whatever name you take) for air defense role. And anti BM role will be taken up by Indian ABM system.


sir its true that the s-400 system is the upgrade of s-300 but its altered.its a defensive weapon true but it can destroy missiles and stealth aircraft. the defence sheild in poland by us is also defensive but in case of agressive action by the us the system can be helpful .i have the overall
technical details of the entire system i will post it soon
thanx
 
sir its true that the s-400 system is the upgrade of s-300 but its altered.its a defensive weapon true but it can destroy missiles and stealth aircraft. the defence sheild in poland by us is also defensive but in case of agressive action by the us the system can be helpful .i have the overall
technical details of the entire system i will post it soon
thanx

I think I had not made my point clearly, what I was saying is that US defense shield is for detecting Russian missiles and kill them not to attack Russia. So this particular thing remains intact. But yes S 300 is a potent air defense weapon. And S 400 is better then that.
 
I think I had not made my point clearly, what I was saying is that US defense shield is for detecting Russian missiles and kill them not to attack Russia. So this particular thing remains intact. But yes S 300 is a potent air defense weapon. And S 400 is better then that.

sir i understood the situation the us defence sheild is to intercept russian missiles and not to attack russia but based on the s-400 platform russia devised a hypersonic missile system which can be used as a agressive weapon and the whole point is that the us missile defence sheild would not be able to intercept and destroy these misssiles in the current configuration.

the whole thing comes to that the purpose of putting the defence sheild to intercept and destroy missiles is being challenged by these weapons.
 
A rather staid little story appeared on a ticker powered by Itar-Tass, a Russian News Agency. The tone was decidedly Russian-matter-of-fact and shorn of all hyperbole. It reported the test launch of a ballistic missile called the Topol RS 12 at 8:10 pm Moscow time. After taking off from the Kapustny Yar test range in the Astrakhan region, it hit the intended target at Balkhash in Kazakhstan at 8:34-24 minutes later.

"The target was precisely hit," said the report, quoting a top-ranking official from the Russian armed forces.

In conclusion, Itar-Tass added some jargon that sounded like regulation copy to most people tracking defence:

"The advanced Topol missile has three cruise engines and can develop hypersonic speed. The high thrust-to-weight ratio allows the warhead to manoeuvre on the trajectory and pass through a dense air defence system."

At that time, not many defence analysts thought much of the report. After all, Kapustny Yar, located on the banks of the Volga river, 75 miles east of Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad), had gone to the dogs and was infrequently used. Whenever the base was lucky to see some action, all it witnessed was small payloads.

But what the mainstream media missed was analysed in great detail on internet discussion boards. For starters, something about the time mentioned in the report sounded astounding.

For anything to travel from Kapustny to Balkash in 24 minutes, it had to fly at a speed of three miles a second. That's 180 miles a minute or 10,800 miles an hour.

If the reports were indeed true, the Topol RS 12 or the Topol SS 27, as it is known in military circles around the world, had to be the fastest thing man has ever seen. And if you will for a moment excuse the breathlessness, it also represented the pinnacle of modern missile technology. Until this test, the fastest thing known to man was the X43 A. A hypersonic, unmanned plane built by NASA. It flew at 10 times the speed of sound-almost 7,200 miles per hour.
_____

But the Topol isn't attracting attention for its speed alone. It has got more to do with the sheer viciousness it demonstrates. A conventional intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), once deployed, takes off on the back of a booster. After attaining a certain altitude, it follows a set flight path or trajectory. When it reaches the intended target, it lets loose a set of warheads that home in on the target with devastating accuracy. Given these dynamics, military establishments build defence systems that can intercept an ICBM before it strikes. Often, the defence works.

With the Topol, these dynamics simply don't come into play. To start with, the damn thing can be manoeuvred mid-flight. This makes it practically impossible for any radar system in the world to figure out what trajectory it will follow.

The other thing is the kind of evasion technology built into the missile. That makes it invulnerable to any kind of radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

Then there is the question of ground-based nuclear warheads traditionally deployed to stop ICBMs in their path. Until now, any ICBM can be taken down by detonating a nuclear warhead from as far as 10 kilometres. The Topol doesn't blink an eyelid until the time a nuclear warhead gets as close as 500 meters. But given the Topol's remarkable speed and manoeuvrability, getting a warhead that close is practically impossible.

That leaves defence establishments with only two options. Target the missile at its most vulnerable points - either when it is on the ground or when it is just being deployed (also known as the boost phase).

Apparently, the Russians have gotten around that problem, too. Unlike virtually every ICBM that exists on some military base or the other, the Topol doesn't have to be on a static base. All it needs is the back of a truck. And trucks can be driven anywhere, anytime. That makes it practically impossible for any country to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.

Writes Scott Ritter, a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the Soviet Union and Iraq in the Christian Science Monitor:

"The Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M.. To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will need to start from scratch."

But when you're done marvelling at the technology, sit back for a moment and consider this. You thought the cold war was over. You thought wrong. Cold War II has just begun. And the world just became a more dangerous place.
____

To recap the SS-27 'highlights'...

The Topol SS 27 can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar systems to figure out its flight path.

It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.

It can be mounted on the back of a truck, which makes it difficult to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where
 
i posted the above article in another thread but could not incorporate it so pasted it back

this is just regarding the hypersonic technology that russia tested on the topol it was the reason i told that the us missile defence sheild is rendered impotent in the current state.
 
c2de0ab8ef4c8de695d9f2522836d4f6.jpg
the RS-24 rocket answer to the missile defence sheild.



According to the Russian government, the third successful launch of the RS-24 Rocket from the Plesetsk space center in northwest Russia was conducted on November 26, 2008. The first two launches took place in May and December of 2007 respectively. It was reported that the rocket traveled 6,000 miles across Russia to the Kamchatka Peninsula, where the missile's multiple re-entry vehicles successfully landed on targets on the testing range.








The new rocket is expected to replace the older Ukrainian-made RS-18 and RS-20 which are also known as the SS-19 Stilletto and the SS-18 Satan. In conjunction with the Topol-M, this new missile system will become the foundation of Russia’s strategic missile forces until the year 2050!

Yuri Solomonov, the chief designer of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology, announced last summer that the RS-24 could penetrate any defense system and that in all likelihood, this enhanced development of the Topol-M missile would be deployed in 2009. Since the deployment may begin before the current START Treaty expires in December of 09, this means that the Russian RS-24 will be declared as a new missile.

In his speech, Solomonov pointed out (and justly so) that if there is a limit on the number of warheads, it would make more sense to spread those warheads among many launchers rather than concentrate them on a small number of large-throw weight missiles. The Russian press is divided on this issue and is full of fluctuating opinions suggesting that US satellites can easily detect mobile missiles on patrol.
 

Latest posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom