Russian Trade with US increases to 17%. How America is playing out Russia against EU & Japan

[BestUsernameEver]

Hmmm the official American numbers do not support this:

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

Trade between USA and Russia Jan-Aug 2014:

Exports: 7.539 billion USD
Imports: 17.059 billion USD

Total: 24.598 billion USD

Trade between USA and Russia Jan-Aug 2013:

Exports: 7.081 billion USD
Imports: 18.556 billion USD

Total: 25.637 billion USD

So there has been a DECREASE of 4.05% not an increase of 17%.

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

Hmmm the official American numbers do not support this:

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

Trade between USA and Russia Jan-Aug 2014:

Exports: 7.539 billion USD
Imports: 17.059 billion USD

Total: 24.598 billion USD

Trade between USA and Russia Jan-Aug 2013:

Exports: 7.081 billion USD
Imports: 18.556 billion USD

Total: 25.637 billion USD

So there has been a DECREASE of 4.05% not an increase of 17%.

WASHINGTON: U.S. sales to Russia have only risen since sanctions imposed | Europe | McClatchy DC

U.S. Census Bureau foreign trade data show that exports rose 17 percent from March through May _ the most recent months for which the data is available _ compared with the previous three months, before sanctions were imposed. The value of exports has risen in each consecutive month this year, an unusual trend in a trade relationship that historically fluctuates on a monthly basis.

Russian markets account for less than 1 percent of U.S. exports, but what the U.S. sells to Russia is largely high-tech and expensive goods, including technology and equipment for the energy sector, which faces the threat of targeted sanctions.

Robert Kahn, a senior fellow in international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, said the rise in exports was evidence that Russian companies were stockpiling goods with the expectation that future sanctions would prevent U.S. companies from selling to their country.​

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2014 Mar-May Exports to Russia: $3,293.8
2013 Dec, 2014 Jan-Feb Exports to Russia: $2,810.3

$3,293.8 / $2,810.3 - 1 = 17.2%

So the caveats are that this wasn't total trade that increased, but rather US exports to Russia, and that it wasn't due to a sudden warming of ties, but rather Russian stockpiling ahead of potential sanctions.

 

[nvKyleBrown]

I know my company (American) has a large sale in Russia in process. It does not seem to be affected by sanctions, either US or Russian. I asked (being very peripherally involved as a technical advisor). The word is that Russia may be stocking up on US oil field/processing and related equipment - stuff to build and operate wells, pipelines, and refineries. I don't know personally, I just was told that sanctions don't impact the sale at this time. But, I'm just repeating what @LeveragedBuyout has said.

 

[MarkusS]

I must say all this is pretty amusing for me. Putins tactic from the beginning was to try to divide the western powers. He failed miserable. Thats why the sanctions are working.

And senheiser, the only european thing about russia was the german Katarina die Große. She ruled russia with an iron grip, modernized it and tried to make it european. Unfortunately she failed because soon after her death russia became barbaric again. I visited russia comrade and saw firsthand how pathetic it is. I already told you that i was in St. Petersburg for a competition and i can tell you that i experienced nothing positive there. What i saw there was definitly not european standards. Let me ask you some questions.

1. is it standard for a 4 star hotel that almost nobody spoke english and that the room maids comes into the room to clean it up while i was sleeping? That is kinda strange and not very acceptable...

2. I find it strange that at the competition i first get the first price in my hands, then they debate in russian infront me so i dont understand...and then take the price away from me and gave me 2nd place and a russian the 1st. And then suppose i shake hands with him and smile in camera?

3. The city looks very ugly and shabby once you leave the tourist areas.

My experiences there formed my opinion about your country. And for me itsvthe last shithole on this planet. You cant imagine how low i think about your people after that.

 

[Audio]

@Audio

Why don't you post rouble exchange rate or news about the impending budget rebalance in Russia and more importantly, the reasons for it?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Estonia and the other baltic states are EU territory. Putin threatens our territory, which can not be accepted. Why should we make deals with someone who want attack us? That would be laughable.

Russia is not european and is our enemy. You dont make business as usual with enemies.

Why? Isn't the Proto-Indo-European folks also originated in Russia?

But yeah, the Western Europeans are all Indo-Europeanized natives who are closely related to each other, maybe you guys only consider the Western Europeans as the only true European.

Well in that case it will be good for Russia to join our E.U then and be part of the west, so we can counter China and east Asia better.

Then you have to let Russia to restore back to the former grandeur of USSR.

But can you accept that? You guys certainly are not that generous, just look at your actions in Ukraine.

By judging the attitude of the Euro members, i bet that you guys would rather kill yourselves than letting a Slavic nation to become the leader of the western world.

 

[MarkusS]

Why? Isn't the Proto-Indo-European folks also originated in Russia?

But yeah, the Western Europeans are all Indo-Europeanized natives who are closely related to each other, maybe you guys only consider the Western Europeans as the only true European.



Then you have to let Russia to restore back to the former grandeur of USSR.

But can you accept that? You guys certainly are not that generous, just look at your actions in Ukraine.

By judging the attitude of the Euro members, i bet that you guys would rather kill yourselves than letting a Slavic nation to become the leader of the western world.

Russia plays zero to no point in the european history and has absolute zero impact on the creation of europe. How many hellenic leaders were russian? zero. How many roman emperors came from russia? zero. What part does russia play in the time of the holy empire? zero. In the crusades? zero. In the renaissance? Zero.

Russia is not and never was part of the EU. As this it can never be part of Europe. A leader must be something you look up too. A leader can never be someone you look down on.

To give you a conclusion, russia tried to rule at least over eastern europe and failed miserable. People looked down on russia so much, that they celebrate the SS as their liberators till today in the baltic states.

Then there is the economic discrepancy. The EU is the economic giant of the world. Its marketpower is greater than any other block on earth. Russia on the other side is an economic dwarf. Its economy is smaller than california. Russia has Moscow and St. Petersburg...the EU has Rome, Berlin, London, Paris, Barcelona and other hot spots that attract the entire world

Then you have the difference of religion. Europe is mostly roman catholic. Russia is russian-orthodox. That rift alone would made a merger impossible.

Your proposal fails on so many levels that you should see how laughable it is. Also from the russian side.

There is nothing people would identify with or be loyal with. To create empires you need a unifieing force. Something the people believe in and be loyal with.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russia plays zero to no point in the european history and has absolute zero impact on the creation of europe. How many hellenic leaders were russian? zero. How many roman emperors came from russia? zero. What part does russia play in the time of the holy empire? zero. In the crusades? zero. In the renaissance? Zero.

Russia is not and never was part of the EU. As this it can never be part of Europe. A leader must be something you look up too. A leader can never be someone you look down on.

To give you a conclusion, russia tried to rule at least over eastern europe and failed miserable. People looked down on russia so much, that they celebrate the SS as their liberators till today in the baltic states.

Then there is the economic discrepancy. The EU is the economic giant of the world. Its marketpower is greater than any other block on earth. Russia on the other side is an economic dwarf. Its economy is smaller than california. Russia has Moscow and St. Petersburg...the EU has Rome, Berlin, London, Paris, Barcelona and other hot spots that attract the entire world

Then you have the difference of religion. Europe is mostly roman catholic. Russia is russian-orthodox. That rift alone would made a merger impossible.

Your proposal fails on so many levels that you should see how laughable it is. Also from the russian side.

There is nothing people would identify with or be loyal with. To create empires you need a unifieing force. Something the people believe in and be loyal with.

Sure, Russians are descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans, whereas you guys are not.

Being "European" is just a geographic expression, it doesn't really matter.

 

[MarkusS]

Sure, Russians are descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans, whereas you guys are not.

Being "European" is just a geographic expression, it doesn't really matter.

As usual you have no clue what you talk about. The first europeans did settle from north africa over all of europe

37.000 years b.c.

35.000 years bc

32.000 years bc

30.000 years bc


This is the first wave of homo sapiens sapiens into europe. In the end, we are all ethiopians.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

As usual you have no clue what you talk about. The first europeans did settle from north africa over all of europe

37.000 years b.c.

35.000 years bc

32.000 years bc

30.000 years bc


This is the first wave of homo sapiens sapiens into europe. In the end, we are all ethiopians.

I am talking about the Proto-Indo-Europeans, not the native Europeans.

 

[MarkusS]

I am talking about the Proto-Indo-Europeans, not the native Europeans.

The proto indo europeans have the native europeans as their ancestors, as you can see on the maps. It is virtually the same genetic group, remixing later languages.

What i find far more interesting is that it took our species so long to conquer europe. Australia was settled 10.000 years before europe:

It looks like our species easily conquered the lands inhabitated from Homo erectus but had a much harder stand against homo neanderthalensis. It must have been interesting times.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The proto indo europeans have the native europeans as their ancestors, as you can see on the maps. It is virtually the same genetic group, remixing later languages.

What i find far more interesting is that it took our species so long to conquer europe. Australia was settled 10.000 years before europe:

It looks like our species easily conquered the lands inhabitated from Homo erectus but had a much harder stand against homo neanderthalensis. It must have been interesting times.

Russians overall are more interested to explore on the archaeological sites of the Proto-Indo-Europeans (Kurgans) than those of the Greco-Roman civilization.

Check the Proto-Indo-European archaeological sites in Russia/Siberia, they managed to find the Russian-like skeleton remains, even Putin is very interested about to explore the past of Russia's Proto-Indo-European ancestors.

And I don't think the Western Europeans descended from these people.

Face reconstruction of princess and people from Southern Ural / Sintashta culture - Historum - History Forums

 

[MarkusS]

Russians overall are more interested to explore on the archaeological sites of the Proto-Indo-Europeans (Kurgans) than those of the Greco-Roman civilization.

Check the Proto-Indo-European archaeological sites in Russia/Siberia, they managed to find the Russian-like skeleton remains, even Putin is very interested about to explore the past of Russia's Proto-Indo-European ancestors.

And I don't think the Western Europeans descended from these people.

Face reconstruction of princess and people from Southern Ural / Sintashta culture - Historum - History Forums

Of course not, those people decended from us.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Of course not, those people decended from us.

lol, if Scythians descended from Romans, then why you did treat them as the barbarians?

 

[MarkusS]

lol, if Scythians descended from Romans, then you did treat them as the barbarians?

i think you still have a problem with the factor "time". Both Scythians and romans came from the same ancestor who settled europe 35.000 years before them. The romans called evryone who could not speak latin "barbarian". Do you know what Barbarian means?

It comes from bar bar bar bar. The romans could not understand foreigners who spoke other languages. For them it was bla bla bla bla