Russian Politician Wants Liaoning Aircraft Carrier Back That China Purchased From Ukraine

[renhai]

From the article:
The J-15 is too heavy to operate efficiently from carriers, has problems with its flight control systems, has crashed several times, and more, Sputnik reported

Russia rips China's J-15 fighter jet, which Beijing stole from Moscow

The J-15 is too heavy to operate efficiently from carriers, has problems with its flight control systems, which has led to several crashes, and more, Sputnik reported.

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China Looks To Replace Its J-15 Carrier Fighter Jets Amid Reports Of Crashes

The People's Liberation Army Navy will need significantly more jets anyway if they want to make good use of their new carriers.

www.thedrive.com

“The J-15 is a problematic aircraft – its unstable flight control system was the key factor behind the two fatal accidents two years ago,” a source told the SCMP
Indeed, during two of the incidents which resulted in J-15 crashes, the SCMP said the “flight control system was breaking down” on approach to the runway during Field Carrier Landing Practices (FCLP). That might suggest the J-15’s flight control laws are vulnerable to pilot induced oscillations or any number of other problems

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According to the SCMP, there have been at least four J-15 crashes that have resulted in at least one fatality and one case of serious injury due to what has been described as a series of “unpardonable mechanical failures.”

50 J-15s not 100. Please don't embarrass yourself anymore

Although every country can "edit the news". But Chinese naval aviation students can still use J-15 to take off and land on the aircraft carrier at night. Indian carrier pilots have learned to take off and land at night?

Like you said. Russian pilots did not teach Indians how to use aircraft carriers at night?

 

[Deino]

50 J-15s not 100. Please don't embarrass yourself anymore

Well, not sure if you cannot count:

We have

24 Batch 01 & 02 aircraft
21 Batch 03 aircraft (based on the known cns,)
20 Batch 04 aircraft ... most likely 24!
at least 15 J-15S (based again on their cns.) ... most likely 24!
at least 2 J-15D
... and production of the improved J-15B is allegedly going since late-2021:
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about 85-87 not counting the prototypes and J-15B serial aircraft!

From the article:
The J-15 is too heavy to operate efficiently from carriers, has problems with its flight control systems, has crashed several times, and more, Sputnik reported

Russia rips China's J-15 fighter jet, which Beijing stole from Moscow

The J-15 is too heavy to operate efficiently from carriers, has problems with its flight control systems, which has led to several crashes, and more, Sputnik reported.

www.google.com

China Looks To Replace Its J-15 Carrier Fighter Jets Amid Reports Of Crashes

The People's Liberation Army Navy will need significantly more jets anyway if they want to make good use of their new carriers.

www.thedrive.com

“The J-15 is a problematic aircraft – its unstable flight control system was the key factor behind the two fatal accidents two years ago,” a source told the SCMP
Indeed, during two of the incidents which resulted in J-15 crashes, the SCMP said the “flight control system was breaking down” on approach to the runway during Field Carrier Landing Practices (FCLP). That might suggest the J-15’s flight control laws are vulnerable to pilot induced oscillations or any number of other problems

Redirect Notice

According to the SCMP, there have been at least four J-15 crashes that have resulted in at least one fatality and one case of serious injury due to what has been described as a series of “unpardonable mechanical failures.”

Well, and especially the SCMP and Sputnik are surely knowledgeable on Chinese military news!?

 

[walterbibikow]

Although every country can "edit the news". But Chinese naval aviation students can still use J-15 to take off and land on the aircraft carrier at night. Indian carrier pilots have learned to take off and land at night?

Like you said. Russian pilots did not teach Indians how to use aircraft carriers at night?

Well, not sure if you cannot count:

We have

24 Batch 01 & 02 aircraft
21 Batch 03 aircraft (based on the known cns,)
20 Batch 04 aircraft ... most likely 24!
at least 15 J-15S (based again on their cns.) ... most likely 24!
at least 2 J-15D
... and production of the improved J-15B is allegedly going since late-2021:
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I'm aware of the Batch 3 entering into the serial production but not sure about the Batch 4 though

According to a May 2021 report by The Diplomat, some 50 units of the jet are currently in operation. The J-15 is China's first carrier-borne fighter jet, meaning that it was primarily designed for China's growing fleet of aircraft carriers

Take a look at the J-15 fighter jet, the $61 million copy of a Soviet plane picked to wage war from China's aircraft carriers | Business Insider India

Chinese J-15 fighter jets on the deck of the Liaoning aircraft carrier during military drills in the Yellow Sea, off China's east coast.Contributor/AFP/STR/China OUT/Getty ImagesChina's touts the J-15 as its first locally made carrier-borne fighter jet.The jet is an unlicensed copy of a...

www.businessinsider.in

 

[renhai]

I'm aware of the Batch 3 entering into the serial production but not sure about the Batch 4 though

emmmm.... OK, it's near evening.

 

[Iron Shrappenel]

Sawal gandum jawab channa...

 

[Solidify]

hor chuppo

I was just looking comparing the statistical significance of each Battle carrier group.

At least India's got head start by owning functional aircraft carrier, look where Pakistan is nowadays suddenly.

 

[GiantPanda]

emmmm.... OK, it's near evening.

The first video is performed by a Russian pilot on Vikramaditya before handover. You can tell by the red star roundels:

Just like this one:

The other one is too dark to tell but the extreme lack of light tells me it is a test not an normal operational night landing. And more than likely done by the same Russian pilots wringing out the carrier before handover.

 

[beijingwalker]

Where is India?

 

[walterbibikow]

The first video is performed by a Russian pilot on Vikramaditya before handover. You can tell by the red star roundels:

Just like this one:

The other one is too dark to tell but the extreme lack of light tells me it is a test not an normal operational night landing. And more than likely done by the same Russian pilots wringing out the carrier before handover.

Maybe you're right on the 1st video but the 2nd one is only 1 year old

 

[GiantPanda]

Maybe you're right on the 1st video but the 2nd one is only 1 year old

The video was posted a year old. The actual takeoff, who knows? There is nothing to show it was flown by an Indian.

It is way too dark for actual deck ops anyways. This is a test flight and most probably done by the same Russisn pilots:

This is Chinese operations at night -- you can still make out details like roundels -- the deck crew can't be left blind it is way too dangerous:

 

[Sharma Ji]

I was just looking comparing the statistical significance of each Battle carrier group.

At least India's got head start by owning functional aircraft carrier, look where Pakistan is nowadays suddenly.

The venerable Vikrant was but an LHD, a hand-me-down vestige of a faded empire.

New one's diesel electric and not the largest displacement vessel but still good. One should view Indian carriers as semi-expeditionary but mostly coastal defence motherships essentially. Their role is not to fight and sustain a war effort 10s of thousands of miles away.

Pak, much smaller coast line, no immediate threats (apart from us Gangus lol) so their requirements are different, your sub program is well thought out. Going for SSBNs will earn you further sanctions and the ire of the (((shot callers)))

Pak have enough deterrent capability as is, and are being propped up by the Dragon in other more conventional capabilities.. militarily you guys are ok imo. Could do with a carrier at some stage and threaten our Konkan or try to take the Lakshadweeps again in the future someday.. but be ready, coz we ready

 

[Deino]

...
I'm aware of the Batch 3 entering into the serial production but not sure about the Batch 4 though
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Thanks for admitting your false information at least in this regard:
Here cn. 0410 is number 83, so it can be assumed no. 92 the so far highest number spotted on any J-15 is close to 0420.

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According to a May 2021 report by The Diplomat, some 50 units of the jet are currently in operation. The J-15 is China's first carrier-borne fighter jet, meaning that it was primarily designed for China's growing fleet of aircraft carriers
...

Take a look at the J-15 fighter jet, the $61 million copy of a Soviet plane picked to wage war from China's aircraft carriers | Business Insider India

Chinese J-15 fighter jets on the deck of the Liaoning aircraft carrier during military drills in the Yellow Sea, off China's east coast.Contributor/AFP/STR/China OUT/Getty ImagesChina's touts the J-15 as its first locally made carrier-borne fighter jet.The jet is an unlicensed copy of a...

www.businessinsider.in

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Sorry, businessinsider is really not a source!

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Well, and especially the SCMP and Sputnik are surely knowledgeable on Chinese military news!?

Well, no comments on any other things but actually no one trust Chinese data's since they mostly hide.

Even if they will have the problems with j15 and the crash happening then they will never acknowledge it in the public as well..

 

[Deino]

Well, no comments on any other things but actually no one trust Chinese data's since they mostly hide.

Even if they will have the problems with j15 and the crash happening then they will never acknowledge it in the public as well..

Not really ... they probably hide the report, why a crash happens under what circumstances - but does the IAF releases such data? - but otherwise, the Chinese social medai easily picks up each crash and if you would look a bit around at Weibo and more, there are hundreds of images of nearly each J-15 with construction numbers and bort numbers known. So this cannot all be fake!

 

[Ali_Baba]

May I ask, what's your intention with this post and thread? You post a simply ridiculous story from an Ultra-nationalist Russian idiot and immediately start to bash the CHinese for stupid things!
May I remind you to take a look at this mess and then start thing stones while sitting in a glass-house?

So much on being "behind"!

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With a carrier force that is not worth the name of a carrier force, a carrier that was barely out at lea, with pilots barely ahving opertaional carrier-borne experiences on a fighter the IN itself want to get rid off!??

Wow

you forgot to mention - a new carrier that already looks like a 30 year old rust bucket!!