Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[The Eagle]

President Biden has been presented cyber attack options that would target Russian supply lines.

That will be treated as an attack and not a sanction.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Finland says debate on NATO membership ‘will change’ after Russian invasion

Finish Prime Minister Sanna Marin on Thursday said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine will change the debate around NATO membership within her country.”Finland is not currently facing an immed…

thehill.com

Finland says debate on NATO membership 'will change' after Russian invasion​

Finish Prime Minister Sanna Marin on Thursday said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine will change the debate around NATO membership within her country.

"Finland is not currently facing an immediate military threat, but it is also now clear that the debate on NATO membership in Finland will change," Marin said, YLE News reported.

Finland has been debating for months whether the country should apply for NATO membership, with Marin saying it would require broad support for the country to move forward with an application.

Finland and Sweden, who are both not officially members of NATO, will be at a summit the alliance will host Friday.

Finland's president, Sauli Niinistö, condemned Russia’s attack and President Vladimir Putin, saying "the mask has now come off and only the cold face of war is visible,” according to YLE.

Makes little differance. Finland already is de facto part of NATO architecture. Israel is good example of a country that in practice is proably closer to US then even most NATO members. Ukraine is differant. This was a country within Russian sphere of influence but then began to slip into the clutches of Washington.

 

[kingQamaR]

Needs the Russain people to stand up to this regime but unfortunately they can't due to the repercussions they would face - the red bear is back. Ordinary people in both countries will suffer due to this archaic leader

 

[RescueRanger]

Makes little differance. Finland already is de facto part of NATO architecture. Israel is good example of a country that in practice is proably closer to US then even most NATO members. Ukraine is differant. This was a country within Russian sphere of influence but then began to slip into the clutches of Washington.

Ukraine got the Georgia treatment.

 

[Englishman]

Wow, that is amazing that for 8 years since Crimea they haven't invested in missiles. Sad.


The logic is, if he expands westwards he encounters more NATO nations. So his excuse for invasion is bogus. Ukraine isn't in NATO and discussions on this had basically ended.
So Russia takes Ukraine and all of a sudden, it has NATO members on its borders. Guess what Russia needs to do then for 'security'....take out Poland etc.

As a supporter of the terrorist state of Israel
Whats your problem with Russia annexing land they claim belongs to his people?

Shouldn't the Ukrainians have been busy setting up cells/hit squads in Russia? I mean they didn't bother acquiring missiles, haven't bothered with underground tunnels and guerrilla style hit and run infrastructure. Just sat there waiting for Russia to invade. Setting up cells in Russia would have been quite easy. Blend in, speak the language etc

Ah I see
Palestinian style resistance

Sounds good

Check mate and have a nice day

 

[dBSPL]

20 February

Kremlin: "Allegations that Russia will invade Ukraine are a provocation"

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov:

"Let us remind you, Russia has never attacked anyone in its history. Russia is the last country that would want to use the word war."

February 24: Russia launched the invasion

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496954223950508034

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I don't think they had any power to stop him. No matter what they say, the Russian elections are not democratic

No less than in UK.

Don't underestimate how much Russians love him.

Agreed. Russians as people tend to unify behind strong leaders. And more so they tend to stick with them through thick and thin. This also applies to Turks, Germans and we have examples of Stalin, Erdogan, Kemal Mustafa.

Pakistani's, Iraqi's etc are opposite. The public could be treating their leader like demigod but next minute flip in other direction. Putin could go to war and lose 10,000s but Russia as a whole will stick with him.

 

[F-22Raptor]

That will be treated as an attack and not a sanction.

The US has a carrier group in the Med, with a dozen cruiser/destroyers. That's 1,200 Vertical Launch Cells.

Also an SSGN with 154 Tomahawks. And a s*** ton of fighters and bombers in Europe.

The US would roll Russia. Its why Russia doesn't touch the Baltics.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496949235572514817

 

[The Eagle]

There is no other reason than Ukraine joining NATO. All other are face savings in one form or another IMO.
The Germans offered helmets... Doubt the Ukrainians accepted them..

Попередження про переадресування

Haven't found an article of the deliveries.
Not that I blame of you propaganda but rather pushing that narrative. I've seen a more pro russian sentiment on PDF with respect to current developments... It raises questions in my mind regarding not only Pakistani upgrades of T80-UDs but also the possible acquisition of T-929 and TFX program ( as the engine for TFX was also in collaboration with the Ukrainians... Correct me if I'm wrong)... Moreover most of our Soviet era equipment was bought from Ukraine no ? We also bring in a lot of agro imports from Ukraine ( wheat, barley, corn etc ) I'll share an article here;

Pakistan in firing line of a Ukraine-Russia war - Asia Times

PESHAWAR – The potential for a Russia-Ukraine war is already buffeting Pakistan as local prices of energy, food, commodities, steel and semiconductor

asiatimes.com

The engine upgrade for Al-Khalid was also coming from Ukraine....

Nobody is pushing for narrative. This has been discussed that what Russia believe, Putin said and what media reported. Only a fool will exaggerate anything. You said they sent helmets and I said they can only do so. There was only one news on Twitter about that.

Indeed, Russia openly warned everyone and Ukraine precisely to avoid this NATO adventure. Have you read all the posts in this thread? Go back and read as exactly this is what being discussed. Then came different points after Putin several statements.

You are merely misunderstanding things and may be, seeing incorrectly. PM was in Russia and returned if it had to do with anything about Ukraine or TFX etc. Calm down. Pakistan has no role or side in this conflict.

 

[jamal18]

Makes little differance. Finland already is de facto part of NATO architecture. Israel is good example of a country that in practice is proably closer to US then even most NATO members. Ukraine is differant. This was a country within Russian sphere of influence but then began to slip into the clutches of Washington.

I believe Sweden and Austria fit that description as well. Not members, but de facto part of the alliance.

 

[Aslan]

Turkey should try to do what the Americans did in ww2

Offer every Ukrainian engineer, working on tanks, engines, and any other useful project, offer them safety and evacuate them to turkey.

 

[RescueRanger]

Expect the price of Wheat, Oil and Gas to increase globally.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

 

[jamal18]

Turkey should try to do what the Americans did in ww2

Offer every Ukrainian engineer, working on tanks, engines, and any other useful project, offer them safety and evacuate them to turkey.

Are you sure they need them?