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I never said Minsk agreement was signed before. My point is that Russia has proven time and again that it cannot be trusted. Why would Ukraine ever stick to an agreement made in bad faith?
Ukraine had no choice but to seek membership, because it was clear that Russia was seeking to annex more Ukrainian territory.
I think you're misunderstanding something.
There is no NATO bluff, because NATO didn't promise to defend Ukraine militarily. Ukraine is not a NATO member, so no, there is no #check & #mate.
On the topic of white blood, that I agree with, which is why I don't really care who wins or loses this war.
China is just waiting for the right moment to swoop in and become the real winner of this.
Words and capabilities are different, you and I both know it.I refer to the mantra used by EU when referring to its engagement of Visegrad group of nations into it's fold with the premise of "NATO" deterrence. Remember 2008? The EU failed to capitalize the developments in Maldova and Bulgaria, too late now.
Agreed and we have seen action in 2008, 2019, 2020 and 2022. No point locking the stable door after the horse has bolted.Words and capabilities are different, you and I both know it.
President Biden can yap he wants
It doesn't change the fact that Ukraine is not a NATO member.
There is no NATO bluff, because NATO didn't promise to defend Ukraine militarily. Ukraine is not a NATO member, so no, there is no #check & #mate.
Because the alternative is war and getting steamrolled by Russian tanks? Don't ever assume Ukraine is equal to Russia. It's Russia who holds all the leverage in negotiations.I never said Minsk agreement was signed before. My point is that Russia has proven time and again that it cannot be trusted. Why would Ukraine ever stick to an agreement made in bad faith?
Ukraine had no choice but to seek membership, because it was clear that Russia was seeking to annex more Ukrainian territory.
About which source?
And rational people in the real world know that Putin will be nuked back to Oblivion
And rational people in the real world know that Putin would be nuked back to Oblivion should he launch a nuclear first strike.
That's not NATO, that's three nations.
That's not NATO, that's three nations.
Not the same thing.
Let's talk when and if Russia actually invades a nato nation.