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Correct.
Yes we can.
Well, that would be playing with the intention behind the words.
Then lets talk about the Russia-Ukraine war. Now this "anti-war" march in Minsk has the marchers carrying Ukraine flags. Minsk is the capital of Belarus where until a few days ago Belarus and Russia had military exercises and from where Russian forces entered the Ukraine war just three days ago. So in this for these Belarus people to hold an "anti-war" march carrying Ukraine flags indicates to me to be a CIA operation to divide the Belarus public.
Similarly was the "peace" gathering in Moscow day-before-yesterday. I am sure a CIA operation. It can be the people of that chess-player-turned-CIA-funded-politician Garry Kasparov. Look at his tweets :
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LOL I thought our own comical Ali was a master in BS claims of victory but damn you are putting him to shame.
I'm 100% sure now at some point you will be claiming the fake "ghost of Kiev" has killed 30 thousand Russian soldiers, shoot down 100 Fighters and destroyed five thousand tanks
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Yeah, low level because Russia kept it that way. The ball is in Russian‘s hands right now whether to intensify or not. Pray that Russia is not choosing the former.
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Ceasefire asap. This really can go out of hand for at least Europe, if not for many other countries. I don't think Putin is going to settle for less than at least a Ukraine neutrality after suffering so many losses.
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European Jihad , lol.British Foreign Secretary Elizabeth Truss said she would unconditionally support individual Brits who decide to go to war with Russian troops in Ukraine
Liz Truss ‘absolutely’ supports individual Brits going to fight in Ukraine
‘Of course that is something that people can make their own decisions about’www.independent.co.uk
Special forces will begin to cross into Ukraine in 'volunteers' packaging. If Putin does not put an end to this, a new Syria will be created in the middle of Europe.
I guess everyone are Jihadis then huh.
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Belarussian special ops are set to join Russia in the attack on Ukraine (
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Belarus 'to join Ukraine invasion' and preparing for air assault on Kyiv
Ukrainian intelligence has learned from within Belarus that “special ops” troops have been spotted loading up planes for a major attack
Belarussian special ops are set to join Russia in the attack on Ukraine (
Image: MINISTRY OF DEFENCE REPUBLIC OF)
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Chris HughesDefence and Security Editor- 12:22, 27 Feb 2022
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Ukrainian intelligence has learned from within Belarus that “special ops” troops have been spotted loading up planes for a major attack.
A senior Ukrainian source told the Daily Mirror: “If this happens it will mean Belarus has openly joined Russia in its invasion of sovereign Ukraine.
“We believe they are being targeted at Kyiv and Zhytomir.”
For weeks during the Russian build up large numbers of Moscow’s elite Spetsnaz troops were on so-called “exercises” with their Belarus counterparts.
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Thanks for your question. You don't need to call me sir unless you planned to enlist
Anyway, I try my best to answer your question.
1.) Now before I say anything, I am not going to pretend I know what's Russia is doing, I wasn't trained by the Russian, I was trained by the US, which follow NATO Doctrine. I did study how Russia or Soviet Union conduct war extensively, so I probably have some insight on their mind on operation.
Now, going back to your question, why Russia has underestimated Ukraine warfighting capability? Well, many different issue. The usual suspect is failure to collect relevant intelligence, failure to interpret said intelligence, over estimate their own combat capability, all the way down to general laziness.
However, I think (again, I don't know, so take it anyway as you will) the major reason why the Russian underperform is because they have to, the were tied by their own perspective. The Russia see this war as a liberation, which mean they cannot just went in with all the troop and swarm the entire country, that is evident that the Russian troop in Brest had not move to cut off Western Ukraine from Lviv to Odessa. Because once they did that, they will virtually cut off the entire country, no supplies could come in and out of Ukraine, people are stuck there. Which would create a humanitarian problem the Russian Public do not want. Which mean by that, they can't really deal with the issue head on.
The entire operational planning is to have Ukraine submit by separating military and civilian, but that planning is based on faulty intelligence, if you understand what I am talking about.
2.) Yes, I don't think Russia is trained on MOUT (Military Operation in Urban Terrain) also, they can't do what the usual Soviet Doctrine dictated on Ukraine. which is level the city and by-pass the city center, and starve the residence into submission. They can't really do that in Ukraine....
3.) I think the core problem is what I have been saying for a long time, both on PDF and elsewhere, the dependence on cruise and tactical missile. Notice that Russia seems to try to preserve the Airforce and not fly their plane as much as they uses missile. While you can destroy hard target but missile being a point to point attacking tool, the damage is limited. Which mean damage done to them can be repaired quickly. Take a look on this Satellite Photo of Chuhuiv Airbase (near Kharkiv) after missile strike on the 24th February
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You can see the airport being hit and black smoke bellowing from the control tower or some sort of administration building area. But the airfield is largely intact, with proper Field Traffic Control, this airport is "Operational" until the runway is render useless or the airport itself is taken by the Russian (which I think they did, but don't quote me on that)
The over reliant on missile contribute to the effectiveness of air campaign. That is the reason why the Russian are having trouble taking Air Superiority. The only real way to do that is to fly 24/7 sorties all the way around Ukraine, but that will expose Russian fighter with SAM and other Anti-Air Asset.
4.) That I can't tell you. I can guess, probably the reason is that Russia brush aside the effectiveness of those NATO weapon being handed to Ukraine. Either they have not studied how we run into trouble with our Bradley and Abrams on Iraqi with RPG in tight corner, and now Ukrainian are doing the same to Russia using RPG, N-LAW and Javelin. Or they somehow think their tank are better defended against those handheld ATGM than the American Tank? That is probably the best answer I can tell you, as for why they do what I think they did? I honestly don't know, that depends on their military tradition, and as I said, I am not trained with it.
5.) I think they did, they have anticipated NATO help with intelligence front in general, using all available technology at their disposal, flying EMINT sorties, Using Satellite and anything from SIGINT to HUMINT. But there are pretty much nothing Russia can do to that directly because that would involve attacking NATO asset. The only thing Russia can do is to cut off communication between NATO and Ukraine, which is nearly impossible in this information age.
6.) As with any military, some unit are well train and some unit are not. In Russia case, there are draftee and professional soldier. Current intelligence suggest that 20% of those are national serviceman, which mean the quality of Russian troop are uneven. Depends on what Russia actually sent to Ukraine, quality can vary.
However, judging by numerous video leaked/released on purpose, I have a feeling that Russian soldier in theatre is not taking the war seriously. If you have seen a video about a Ukrainian in a car driven by a BMP that run out of fuel and he ask "If he can tow him back to Russia"? That exchange would not have happened if Russian are taking this seriously, I am not saying the soldier should have shoot the man, but I am saying they would have wave him off and not taking a friendly stance. That suggest the war we saw and the war Russian told to its soldier are two different thing.
7.) Yes, especially when they split the advance up into 3, that mean you have 3 logistical responsibility instead of one. General Westly Clark commented on a TV program today saying Russia is choosing the complicated way to invade Ukraine, his guess is that Russia want to finish this operation ASAP, but that mean you now have 3 logistic problem instead of 1. Also, traditional Soviet tactics uses a large armor column to sweep thru the area with overwhelming power, this would not do well unless Russia can catch up with their logistic operation. And that is an issue if they split their force in 3.
In my assessment, I said Day 7 would be D-Day on this war, because by then we will know how much Russia have prepared for in terms of logistic, by Day 7, the Russian should have exhausted what they brought with them, which will expose their logistic problem if they have any, because if they didn't prepare and cannot catch up, the whole operation will fall apart, and Ukraine can really win this thing, normally I would not think this is going to be that but seeing how Russian fight, I am not too sure now.
8.) Well, I think that goes back to my answer to question 6. They act like they are on peacekeeping mission (Which ironically is what Putin tell the world, maybe they did tell the troop that? I don't know) instead of an invasion. The convoy run without flank security and forward security in warzone would most likely be ambush or cut to piece. You don't run convoy like that or you will end up like what happened to Jessica Lynch (Her convoy was lost and ambushed and wipe out by Iraqi near Nasiriyah.
From my perspective, this does not live up to the Russian army hype. I think it's safe to say most Military Pundit like me or anyone else would expect a quick victory seeing how enormous different between the Armed Force of Russia and the Armed Force of Ukraine. But I don't see the advantage show in this war. I don't see effective communication, effective deployment of force or even appraisal of the entire situation.
Now that said, this operation is not going to be representing the true capability of Russia. As there are a lot of thing they can do and a lot of thing they cannot do. But all in all, I don't see at least in this war. Russia is as strong as they projected.
I hope I have answered your question in a satisfactory manner. If you have any other question, please feel free to ask.
Thanks for detailed answer. Last question, if the Russians are not gaining their goal’s to their satisfaction, because of the fluent and unstoppable NATO support, do you see a chance of more Russian escalation along the Eastern NATO Border or would Russia sharpen more the nuclear Forces in to firing positions, should we take the actual nuclear threats of Putin (recently showed up in AP news) as a serious threat and alarming situation ? Or are we Far from the nuclear trigger?
I could have written and ask the question better- But I am not fluent in English.
By the way its a honour to have you here in PDF.
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Hypocrites !
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Belarus 'to join Ukraine invasion' and preparing for air assault on Kyiv
Ukrainian intelligence has learned from within Belarus that “special ops” troops have been spotted loading up planes for a major attack
Belarussian special ops are set to join Russia in the attack on Ukraine (
Image: MINISTRY OF DEFENCE REPUBLIC OF)
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Chris HughesDefence and Security EditorBelarus special forces are believed to be preparing to assault the Ukrainian capital Kyiv, the Daily Mirror can reveal.
Ukrainian intelligence has learned from within Belarus that “special ops” troops have been spotted loading up planes for a major attack.
A senior Ukrainian source told the Daily Mirror: “If this happens it will mean Belarus has openly joined Russia in its invasion of sovereign Ukraine.
“We believe they are being targeted at Kyiv and Zhytomir.”
For weeks during the Russian build up large numbers of Moscow’s elite Spetsnaz troops were on so-called “exercises” with their Belarus counterparts.
Good !
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When China and India are not against Russia, it's already half of the humanity.
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rebel 'who blew up 140 tanks in Syria' offers to fight for Ukraine
Syrian rebel Suheil al-Hammoud, known as 'Abu Al Taw' who reportedly destroyed over 140 tanks in the Syrian Civil War has revealed he wants to fight in Ukraine
Syrian rebel Suheil al-Hammoud wants to help Ukraine (
Image: @suheilhammoud/Twitter)
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Suheil al-Hammoud gained notoriety during the Syrian Civil War when he used American anti-tank missiles to wipe out Assad's tanks.
The Free Syrian Army rebel has now tweeted his support for the Ukrainian resistors and asked how he could get involved, as the Daily Star reports.
On Saturday, February 26, he said: "How can I go to Ukraine and fight alongside the Ukrainian army. Is there a way? I'm ready."
The militant would undoubtedly help matters on the ground because as combat CVs go, his is particularly impressive.
War-torn Ukraine is establishing an "international" legion for volunteers from across the world – including Brits – who wish to take on "full Tonto" Vladimir Putin themselves.
In a statement delivered from Kyiv after three days of fighting, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on people across the world to volunteer to defend Ukrainian sovereignty against Russian invaders.
British Foreign Secretary Elizabeth Truss said she would unconditionally support individual Brits who decide to go to war with Russian troops in Ukraine
Liz Truss ‘absolutely’ supports individual Brits going to fight in Ukraine
‘Of course that is something that people can make their own decisions about’
Special forces will begin to cross into Ukraine in 'volunteers' packaging. If Putin does not put an end to this, a new Syria will be created in the middle of Europe.
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If you want to believe that Belarusians protesting against the Russian invasion of their neighbour Ukraine while their government is complicit with Russia is in fact a CIA operation, then you can do that.
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This does not brew right with the Chinese perspective though.
Chinese perspective is that they do not engage in other nation affair, unless China stance is for Ukraine not to be a sovereignty, this is going to be tough on China isolationist view. The Problem is, Ukraine is (or was or whatever) Chinese main Strategic partner with their help on Chinese Carrier and Fighter plane design. Would they betray Ukraine like this for a no-gain posture with Russia?
China is smart not to fully support Russia on this.
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China will most probably hold its ground and support Russia. But India will flip on a dime of the Western powers come knocking on Indian door saying WTF?
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rebel 'who blew up 140 tanks in Syria' offers to fight for Ukraine
Syrian rebel Suheil al-Hammoud, known as 'Abu Al Taw' who reportedly destroyed over 140 tanks in the Syrian Civil War has revealed he wants to fight in Ukraine
Syrian rebel Suheil al-Hammoud wants to help Ukraine (
Image: @suheilhammoud/Twitter)
Luckily for Suheil al-Hamoud, it's actually quite easy to join up to fight.
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John JamesA freedom fighter from Syria who 'took out over 140' tanks has offered to help Ukraine fight off the Russian invasion.
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Suheil al-Hammoud gained notoriety during the Syrian Civil War when he used American anti-tank missiles to wipe out Assad's tanks.
The Free Syrian Army rebel has now tweeted his support for the Ukrainian resistors and asked how he could get involved, as the Daily Star reports.
On Saturday, February 26, he said: "How can I go to Ukraine and fight alongside the Ukrainian army. Is there a way? I'm ready."
The militant would undoubtedly help matters on the ground because as combat CVs go, his is particularly impressive.
War-torn Ukraine is establishing an "international" legion for volunteers from across the world – including Brits – who wish to take on "full Tonto" Vladimir Putin themselves.
In a statement delivered from Kyiv after three days of fighting, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on people across the world to volunteer to defend Ukrainian sovereignty against Russian invaders.
This is all going to get Mad Max really fast. Good let Europe implode on itself.
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