Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Apollon]

Do you even know the history of Bin Laden? Did you bother to read the paper?

https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/lessonslearned/SIGAR-21-46-LL.pdf

Are you using the wholesale slaughter of civilians in Afghanistan as somehow justified given the means used to achieve the ends? And what did the US achieve in Afghanistan? Zilch! Nada! Zero! Squat!

In Early December 2001, the USAF dropped a 15,000 bomb off the back of a C130 in Tora Bora which shook the mountains for miles after impact. In April of 2017, the US went one step further and dropped a 21000lbs MOAB on an ISIS tunnel complex.

Based on available statistics between 2006 and 2019 the allied forces dropped 47,081 bombs in Afghanistan. Let that sink in!

The U.S. failed in Afghanistan by trying to moralize with bullets and bombs

To prosper after the legacy of imperialism and colonization, Afghanistan needs partnerships and business investment, not bullets and bombs.

theconversation.com

'Major American Failure.’ A Political Scientist on Why the U.S. Lost in Afghanistan

"There's no other way to characterize the overall 20-year war as anything other than a failure."

time.com

Now I could go on for hours about Afghanistan given the fact I have actually been to the country, live next to it and been through the aftermath of the 80's, 90's and both during the GWOT and after evacuation. So if you do want to discuss Afghanistan feel free to DM me, otherwise lets not compare Afghanistan to the Ukraine and try to present it is a justified policing operation.

Afghanistan was asked to hand over bin Laden. It chose its fate.

On a sidenote, in Europe we currently kick out Afghans to make room for Ukrainians.

If you realy care for Afghans, now is your time to shine

 

[kingQamaR]

Russian war doctrine relies on the law of large numbers. Never were they technologically advanced since WWI to present — so those talking about Russian tech this and that forget that Russia was modeled differently they knew from beginning they can’t match the quality and capability of Western nations.

What went wrong initially is they tried to conduct war NATO style with limited numbers and limited tech. Problems were bound to arise when you don’t have the tech and order of battle planning to play that style.

However if this drags on longer then you’ll see Russia roll into Ukraine how they should’ve done from the beginning, unless a settlement is made.

They may be winning. It depends on what you think winning looks like.They’re not going to take over Ukraine, and if that was their goal, they lost.But what if they just wanted Donbas and a corridor to Crimea? They’ve probably won.

 

[Clutch]

Ukraine can opt to strike on Russian soil, U.S. says

Dave Lawler
Dave Lawler


A fire at a fuel depot in the Russian city of Belgorod. Photo: Russian government handout via Getty
The war in Ukraine seems to have reached Russian soil: three separate explosions were reported Wednesday at military storage depots, following fires on Monday at two oil storage facilities near the border.

State of play: Footage shared on social media of one of those earlier explosions suggested it was likely an “air or missile strike,” military analyst Rob Lee tweeted. Other fires at sensitive facilities farther from the border are more mysterious still, perhaps resulting from accidents or sabotage.

While Russia has not blamed Kyiv for the explosions, state media reported this week that a Ukrainian drone had been shot down over Russian territory.
Ukraine has also not directly claimed responsibility, but Mykhailo Podolyak, one of President Volodymyr Zelensky’s top advisers, tweeted that it must be “karma.”
Asked how the U.S. would view Ukrainian attacks inside Russia, Secretary of State Tony Blinken told a Senate committee on Wednesday that it was up to Ukraine to use all tactics it deemed “necessary to defend against Russian aggression.”

Podolyak quickly trumpeted Blinken's remark and said, “Ukraine will defend itself in any way, including strikes on the warehouses and bases of the killers.”

 

[Wolfhunter]

Ukraine will win in the end! Lets call this "special operation" what it truly is - a war crime!

 

[PakFactor]

They may be winning. It depends on what you think winning looks like.They’re not going to take over Ukraine, and if that was their goal, they lost.But what if they just wanted Donbas and a corridor to Crimea? They’ve probably won.

Basically from my understanding of Moscow’s motive is they want an active war zone along with territory to prevent NATO expansion, as since the 90’s Russians were lied to which is pretty clear.

Some will say Ukraine didn’t want to join NATO and making useless statements to that effect aren’t fooling anyone but themselves. It was and will always be about NATO in the end.

If Russians retain territory and keep this an active conflict zone then the Russians have won — albeit with losses, but when have the Russians ever came out of a conflict without severe losses? There thinking is the same we have in our region just throw men to solve a problem — we ourselves don’t value human life as the Western nations do.

At the moment Russia is facing an existential this much needs to be accepted and US & Co., egging this conflict just makes it worse.

 

[RescueRanger]

Afghanistan was asked to hand over bin Laden. It chose its fate.

On a sidenote, in Europe we currently kick out Afghans to make room for Ukrainians.

If you realy care for Afghans, now is your time to shine

 

[Apollon]

Basically from my understanding of Moscow’s motive is they want an active war zone along with territory to prevent NATO expansion, as since the 90’s Russians were lied to which is pretty clear.

Some will say Ukraine didn’t want to join NATO and making useless statements to that effect aren’t fooling anyone but themselves. It was and will always be about NATO in the end.

If Russians retain territory and keep this an active conflict zone then the Russians have won — albeit with losses, but when have the Russians ever came out of a conflict without severe losses? There thinking is the same we have in our region just throw men to solve a problem — we ourselves don’t value human life as the Western nations do.

At the moment Russia is facing an existential this much needs to be accepted and US & Co., egging this conflict just makes it worse.

Thing is...russia has no men to throw. Lowest birthrate in the world. What they gonna throw in few weeks? Grandmas?

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As i said make some more room.

Germany to Evict Existing Afghan Refugees for Clearing Out Accommodation Centres for Arriving Ukrainians

German authorities are displacing existing refugees to make way for those coming from Ukraine, as several Afghan nationals have revealed. Miriam Arween, a social activist from Afghanistan, says she was having breakfast with her family when a social worker knocked on her door and said they had to...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

 

[RescueRanger]

As i said make some more room.

Why don't you practice what you preach and do the same? Were Afghan interpreters working from PAKMIL or HEER? Why don't YOU make more room? FYI Pakistan has been hosting Afghanistan refugees since 1980's. Perhaps read a little before making yourself look like an ASSHAT!

 

[kingQamaR]

Basically from my understanding of Moscow’s motive is they want an active war zone along with territory to prevent NATO expansion, as since the 90’s Russians were lied to which is pretty clear.

Some will say Ukraine didn’t want to join NATO and making useless statements to that effect aren’t fooling anyone but themselves. It was and will always be about NATO in the end.

If Russians retain territory and keep this an active conflict zone then the Russians have won — albeit with losses, but when have the Russians ever came out of a conflict without severe losses? There thinking is the same we have in our region just throw men to solve a problem — we ourselves don’t value human life as the Western nations do.

At the moment Russia is facing an existential this much needs to be accepted and US & Co., egging this conflict just makes it worse.

Do Russians honestly think that Ukraine is so important to the West that they'll risk nuclear war (destroying Russia, NATO/West and putting the globe into a nuclear winter)? They’ve sanction Russia and provide weapons but there will be NO war between the 'West' and Russia...................certainly not over Ukraine anyway It is the biggest military blunder of modern times. The main tactical failure is Russia gave the Ukraine a reason to exist. That cannot now be undone. NATO is expanding and the border has doubled in length to the point where Russia cannot afford to defend it in it's entirety. There is now no way Russia can win.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Thing is...russia has no men to throw. Lowest birthrate in the world. What they gonna throw in few weeks? Grandmas?



As i said make some more room.

Germany to Evict Existing Afghan Refugees for Clearing Out Accommodation Centres for Arriving Ukrainians

German authorities are displacing existing refugees to make way for those coming from Ukraine, as several Afghan nationals have revealed. Miriam Arween, a social activist from Afghanistan, says she was having breakfast with her family when a social worker knocked on her door and said they had to...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

I don't know what you are on about mate but the west has an obligation to the men and women who helped ISAF and humanitarian operations in Afghanistan. Perhaps you don't give a shite but the vast majority of those with a conscience do care.

I've been working directly with a charity that helps Afghan nationals who worked with coalition forces, contractors or humanitarian agencies leave Afghanistan to safety in their country of choice depending which partner country they have worked with in country.

I think we are getting off-topic here so lets get back to topic, but pack it in with this shite about "making more room" - we in the WEST owe these people yeah! Because we promised them relocation - which we need to own up to.

Do Russians honestly think that Ukraine is so important to the West that they'll risk nuclear war (destroying Russia, NATO/West and putting the globe into a nuclear winter)? They’ve sanction Russia and provide weapons but there will be NO war between the 'West' and Russia...................certainly not over Ukraine anyway It is the biggest military blunder of modern times. The main tactical failure is Russia gave the Ukraine a reason to exist. That cannot now be undone. NATO is expanding and the border has doubled in length to the point where Russia cannot afford to defend it in it's entirety. There is now no way Russia can win.

Russia is stuck in a quagmire, they haven't fought a real enemy since the good old days - and for once they underestimated the ability of a weaker country to fight back and now find themselves exactly where they are vulnerable. By the time they withdraw, their military capability and pride will be effectively neutered.

 

[Viet]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1519772701900124166

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USSR economy was about third largest in the world. Russia economy today prior war is about Spain. Soon about to be Netherlands.
Russia without Ukraine is geographically culturally more Asians than Europeans. Like China and Bangladesh. Now the Europeans draw the iron curtains, shut down doors and windows. Sure, russia has oil, gas and minerals the West needs to heat homes, but will be like Venezuela or Saudi Arabia.

 

[WotTen]

They may be winning. It depends on what you think winning looks like.They’re not going to take over Ukraine, and if that was their goal, they lost.But what if they just wanted Donbas and a corridor to Crimea? They’ve probably won.

Russia will HAVE to take over all of Ukraine. No half measures.
Otherwise, NATO will keep supplying western Ukraine to keep attacking the Russian occupied part forever.
The only way to stop it is to have a border with NATO since NATO will not launch attacks from its own territory.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Russia will HAVE to take over all of Ukraine. No half measures.
Otherwise, NATO will keep supplying western Ukraine to keep attacking the Russian occupied part forever.
The only way to stop it is to have a border with NATO since NATO will not launch attacks from its own territory.

Except Russia can't take over Ukraine!

 

[Viet]

Russia will HAVE to take over all of Ukraine. No half measures.
Otherwise, NATO will keep supplying western Ukraine to keep attacking the Russian occupied part forever.
The only way to stop it is to have a border with NATO since NATO will not launch attacks from its own territory.

You are paranoid. Nato is a defense pact. It’s not going to attack anyone, least nuclear armed Russians. But you are right Ukraine will keep attacking Russian occupied territories forever.

 

[JackTheRipper]

How long did you expect could gaddafi opress the various tribes?


Beside that, NATO was not involved in Libya

Lol